Super User deaknh03 Posted December 6, 2013 Super User Posted December 6, 2013 Many of you guys will appreciate this, and a lot of you won't, but I would think there would be enough of us that would want it. I think a forum dedicated to imported reels, rods, tackle, etc would be a great idea. More and more people are getting into it, and if you go thru the other forums here, you find stuff scattered everywhere. A one stop forum dedicated to all of that stuff would be great, and make it easier for the enthusiast to find stuff. 3 Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted December 6, 2013 Super User Posted December 6, 2013 While I would like to see this as well I just can't see it. Many other requests for sub forum expansion here has never came to pass. I know the recipes and cooking forum plus a bank fishing forum were recent examples. There are probably a few dozen members here tops that would be active in something like that and probably exponentially more that would read but never post. Most of the new members here are just getting into fishing or back into fishing after a period of time away from it. People here appreciate learning the aspects of bass fishing from rod, reel, like, baits, tackle accessories, etc. They also are looking for bang for their buck and quality items that produce and take a beating but typically want to do so in the most cost advantageous way. There are probably 20 threads asking about best rod or reel under $100 or $200 to every thread asking about what megabass or gancraft rod to use for x technique. While I would dig something like this wit a focus on international tackle, tuning parts, etc I just don't think it will happen. To me the member base here doesnt fit this kind of mold. I could be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time. Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted December 7, 2013 Super User Posted December 7, 2013 There aren't nearly enough people here using import tackle to support a forum like that. Go over to TT and check the enthusiast/import forum, you will see that there is no comparison. I enjoy looking at that stuff and reading about it but it doesn't really fit with the VAST majority of members here. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 7, 2013 Super User Posted December 7, 2013 I'd worry that it would draw negative attention. I like that we mix it up with entry level gear and enthusiast gear. We have always been more about the fishing and how to catch than what you use. I like that too - it speaks anglers on any budget. 3 Quote
EvanT123 Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 Can we get a sub forum for $100 dollar rods? 2 Quote
Fishwhittler Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 I think you would find the products talked about that are made in the USA would be very limited. There aren't many. It's to bad but that's they way it is. People in general just don't want to pay the extra for made in America products. Ron True. Most people in the US are looking for cheap stuff, and they don't care where it's made. Which is why US Reel shipped production overseas, and why there are rumors flying that Ardent is going to do the same. I think the other posters in this thread were talking more about high-end enthusiast gear, not relegating this forum to discussing only US-built tackle. Tackle Tour has carved out its niche, and to be honest I seriously doubt if an enthusiast-tackle-only forum would catch on here. It's a self-perpetuating cycle; most of the guys who want to discuss high-end gear go to Tackle Tour, because that's where the other guys who talk about that stuff are, so they go to Tackle Tour to talk about it…and so on. Can we get a sub forum for $100 dollar rods? Just curious: Why do you want a forum dedicated to rods in a certain price point? Quote
bootytrain Posted December 7, 2013 Posted December 7, 2013 A new forum couldn't hurt. Shimano, Daiwa, and Abu have brought over some of their JDM models.. time will tell if there is a market here strong enough for them to keep selling them here. Its not looking good for Daiwa though as they are discontinuing the Z200 here and looks like all the T3 models are on sale. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted December 7, 2013 Super User Posted December 7, 2013 I think Francho is right. I think expanding or rearranging the geographical forums is not a bad idea. Quote
Super User Jeff H Posted December 8, 2013 Super User Posted December 8, 2013 Can we get a sub forum for $100 dollar rods? Just curious: Why do you want a forum dedicated to rods in a certain price point? I'm betting he's just be facetious in his question. I laughed when I read it. 2 Quote
Grantman83 Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 I love high end stuff but I agree an extra forum isn't necessary. Generally it's pretty easy to work some of that talk into the general forum. Quote
DelcoSol Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 Maybe just do a sticky thread instead? We also have to do something to clean up the what rod/reel threads. People need to utilize the search function instead of making a thousand threads on the same rods/reels. I am all in favor of getting opinions but to have multiple threads on the same thing is tiresome. I am not complaining. All of the mods do a great job here. Just throwing out some ideas. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted December 9, 2013 Author Super User Posted December 9, 2013 I like the sticky idea. Quote
Super User Jeff H Posted December 9, 2013 Super User Posted December 9, 2013 Maybe just do a sticky thread instead? We also have to do something to clean up the what rod/reel threads. People need to utilize the search function instead of making a thousand threads on the same rods/reels. I am all in favor of getting opinions but to have multiple threads on the same thing is tiresome. I am not complaining. All of the mods do a great job here. Just throwing out some ideas. As this website has likely been around many years, probably everything has been covered at one time or another. Therefore, the use of the search function should be useful for every subject and every person involved. Where would there be any social interaction if one was required to use the search function for every question that pops into ones mind? I'm not saying it should never be used, but if it were in this suggested context it's possible you'd have replies to long dead threads bringing them back to the top. So, aside from the fact there is usually the comment of "whoa, where'd you scrape this one out of the mud"....what difference does it make then? On top of that, as time passes (years in some cases), popular opinions can change. On the other hand, I agree. I have used it to gain opinions on rods several times in the past. One problem that can exist though is you can have opinions of some product that has seen several levels of upgrades yet carries the same original name. An example might be something like, say, a Shimano Crucial rod. Once available in full cork grips and IM9 graphite, the new ones (as we all know) are IM10 (no big deal really) and split eva foam grips. Search results could be confusing for some if details are not specific. So, since these types of places are meant for a gathering of social interaction, I say let it happen, even if it's over and over again. Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted December 9, 2013 Super User Posted December 9, 2013 The problem with the sticky thread idea is that it would become too cluttered with varying subjects. Someone may post a pic or two of some cool limited production reels, meanwhile there may be a discussion about spool upgrades by another poster, while someone is asking about which megabass rod is best for a dropshot and so on and so forth. You would have to click on the thread and try to figure out who is discussing what and it would be a bit of a mystery because there is no telling what direction the discussion is going. I still think people will chime in when possible to help with JDM rods, reels, tackle, etc... just by posting it in correct forum. If you feel like it is insufficient here just move over Tackle Tour where that is about all they discuss in their Enthusiasts forum. Quote
skeletor6 Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 Kickerfish and J-Rob hit it on its head. There's not enough individuals who would contribute.However, I do not see how it could hurt, especially if the customization aspect was brought into it..And who knows, it could grow with time. Just because you can find it on TT does not mean its not worth asking here. A sticky thread would be fantastic for best $100 reel and Best $100 rod. It is brought up easily 2x a week and the same information is repeated. One could simply gather plenty of information from the sticky and ask a more specific question about the rods/reels they narrowed it down to if the sticky did not provide enough information. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted December 9, 2013 Super User Posted December 9, 2013 Works fine the way it is. I wouldn't mind seeing sub forum specifically for sponsors to advertise their specials instead of incorporating their information within a thread. 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted December 9, 2013 Super User Posted December 9, 2013 I'd worry that it would draw negative attention. I like that we mix it up with entry level gear and enthusiast gear. We have always been more about the fishing and how to catch than what you use. I like that too - it speaks anglers on any budget. I'll skip the quip, just give me the warning points now... Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 9, 2013 Super User Posted December 9, 2013 I'll skip the quip, just give me the warning points now... You can always send a PM. I have thick skin, and am open to feedback. Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted December 9, 2013 Super User Posted December 9, 2013 Works fine the way it is. I wouldn't mind seeing sub forum specifically for sponsors to advertise their specials instead of incorporating their information within a thread. That's a great idea. Everyday a page of topics get's pushed down (mostly by new topics of something discussed 3000 times already) and often some of the sponsors deals/offers are left unseen by probably a lot of people. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 9, 2013 Super User Posted December 9, 2013 There's another side to this - having sponsors participate directly within threads, answering questions, and making recommendations where their product would really benefit the user is a great thing. Hawgtech, Ragetail, Megastrike, DVT, Siebert Outdoors, and most recently Valley Sports are great examples where their involvement goes well beyond just paying for forum ads, and enriching the discussion content of threads. I would hate to lose this due to the impression that a "sponsor sandbox" is the only way for sponsors to communicate to members. Many would skip over this, and never get their perspectives. Quote
skeletor6 Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 Them participating is fantastic and their interaction in threads has helped me and many others. I know mike at DVT and the users from Hawgtech are constantly helping people without even selling their business. Free advice so to speak, it builds consumer trust and is a definite advantage when you can talk to the business owners. But sometimes it is hard to locate when Siebert posts a free shipping order. Or when Valley Sports had their black friday sale. It would end up buried. It would be nice if it was better highlighted in a certain way. I missed Siebert's last sale because I was not on top of searching siebertoutdoors username in the search function. It seems when they post a sale. It looks like any other thread. Then after 5 new threads are bumped or created, it gets lost. I'm not saying it has to be stickied, but I think it would be beneficial if a Sponsor creates a thread that their thread is highlighted in some way making it look substantially different than if I were to create a thread. 1 Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted December 9, 2013 Author Super User Posted December 9, 2013 Them participating is fantastic and their interaction in threads has helped me and many others. I know mike at DVT and the users from Hawgtech are constantly helping people without even selling their business. Free advice so to speak, it builds consumer trust and is a definite advantage when you can talk to the business owners. But sometimes it is hard to locate when Siebert posts a free shipping order. Or when Valley Sports had their black friday sale. It would end up buried. It would be nice if it was better highlighted in a certain way. I missed Siebert's last sale because I was not on top of searching siebertoutdoors username in the search function. It seems when they post a sale. It looks like any other thread. Then after 5 new threads are bumped or created, it gets lost. I'm not saying it has to be stickied, but I think it would be beneficial if a Sponsor creates a thread that their thread is highlighted in some way making it look substantially different than if I were to create a thread. Perhaps when they start a sale thread it could be highlighted with a different color in the heading. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 9, 2013 Super User Posted December 9, 2013 But sometimes it is hard to locate when Siebert posts a free shipping order. They are almost ALWAYS in "General" and we try to keep them on the 1st page. Quote
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