hookset on 3 Posted October 17, 2010 Posted October 17, 2010 I've been using Owner about as long as they have been in the USA. The cutting point slices thru flesh and cartilage like no other. Do you ever touch up the point if it gets nicked, or do you just toss 'em? What type of sharpener would you use? How exactly would you sharpen the point without compromising the cutting edges? Thanks, hookset Quote
Super User grimlin Posted October 17, 2010 Super User Posted October 17, 2010 Most of the time I just toss them,75% of the time i lost the rig before i have to toss it. But the rare 25% of the time i use my handee tool which has a hook sharpener and sand it down starting from the back of the hook to the point(never the other way around).Best $14.95 investment i ever made.You can always test the sharpness on your fingernail.You'll figure out quickly rather the hook is still useless after sharpening it or not. You will compromise the cutting edge no matter how you try to work it.Which is why i usually toss the hooks most of the time. Quote
Super User SoFlaBassAddict Posted October 17, 2010 Super User Posted October 17, 2010 Toss them. Lots of times sharpening a hook is a quick remedy anyway. You remove the protective coating on the steel once you sharpen it. They'll begin to rust far quicker than normal. For the most part, hooks are cheap and should be treated as a replaceable item. Quote
TBendBassin Posted October 17, 2010 Posted October 17, 2010 Toss them. Lots of times sharpening a hook is a quick remedy anyway. You remove the protective coating on the steel once you sharpen it. They'll begin to rust far quicker than normal. For the most part, hooks are cheap and should be treated as a replaceable item. agreed don't bother sharpening hooks Quote
philsoreel Posted October 18, 2010 Posted October 18, 2010 I can and do sharpen my hooks. Why? I can get them sharper than they come. It's a small detail in my preparation that increases the amount of fish I catch. I would rather go fishing and not get a bite than lose ten fish. Yes, hooks are disposable items these days. Yes, sharpening them will take off the coating and make them rust faster. So what? Disposable items! With the right tool and a little practice you can get your hooks so much sharper, in a few seconds. Not trying to promote anything but berkley makes a little pen shaped hook file that has a somewhat effective vise on one end and the file in the other end. 320 diamond grit file with a flat side, rounded, and a side that has a cut-out that makes it simple for beginners. You can get it sharper with the flat-side though. I've used others and saw no advantage but they had something like 180 grit. Not tooting my own horn but I can sharpen the the hell out of a hook with that file. I'm going to get a Owner Cutting Point and see if I can do irrepairable damage to it.... To be continued.... Quote
hookset on 3 Posted October 18, 2010 Author Posted October 18, 2010 Points well taken!haha. In all seriousness, good info to ponder. I have found that a ceramic file surface,like the Handee, is the best for taking small amounts of metal off. Like grimlin said, after a couple of passes with the file, the finger nail test is the deciding factor. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 18, 2010 Super User Posted October 18, 2010 Unless you are in some emergency situation, out of hooks and must catch a fish, there's no point sharpening a chemically sharpened hook. Replace it. Quote
baluga Posted October 18, 2010 Posted October 18, 2010 Here's a way to sharpen that Owner treble hooks cutting point. Took me awhile to figure out how to sharpen this darn hooks. Couple of times I tried but gave up since it just too difficult, and opted to buying new ones. The problem was the angle of file on the point when sharpening. I was sharpening the hooks at the wrong angle. I was doing it more like sharpening a standard hooks. Filing the hooks aligned to the point of the hooks does not make it sharper, it actually makes it dull. Wrong way: If you look closely to the point of the hook, it is pointed inwards towards the hooks eyelet. Correct way is to set your file at the angle that makes it look like your going to cross the hook eyelet. This way: Give it at least four strokes on this angle and it would sharpen just like new. Try to run the points against you thumb nail, if it slides easily just re-sharpen until the hooks just stops when you run the point to you thumb nail. I hope this helps. :wink: Quote
Jake. Posted October 18, 2010 Posted October 18, 2010 Unless you are in some emergency situation, out of hooks and must catch a fish, there's no point sharpening a chemically sharpened hook. Replace it. Agreed. Chemically sharpened hooks aren't meant to be re-sharpened. Quote
Super User bilgerat Posted October 18, 2010 Super User Posted October 18, 2010 I have no problem touching up a hook if needed. Can I duplicate the original point ? Nope. Can I make it sharp enough to stick a fish ? Yep. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 19, 2010 Super User Posted October 19, 2010 Hmm... Spinnerbaits, buzzbaits and some jigs...Otherwise, replaced or trashed. 8-) Quote
Super User Jigfishn10 Posted October 19, 2010 Super User Posted October 19, 2010 Hmm...Spinnerbaits, buzzbaits and some jigs...Otherwise, replaced or trashed. 8-) X2...Spinnerbaits, Buzzbaits and Jigs get very expensive to toss in a landfill. Quote
River Rat316 Posted October 19, 2010 Posted October 19, 2010 Hmm...Spinnerbaits, buzzbaits and some jigs...Otherwise, replaced or trashed. 8-) Hmmmm I say just trash the jigs to..... we can always make more ;D ;D Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 20, 2010 Super User Posted October 20, 2010 Well, the thread is about sharpening Owner Cutting Point Hooks. So...No. XPoints cannot be sharpened either. 8-) Quote
philsoreel Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 Nope, I can't improve an Owner Cutting Point. Hang it on a dock or branch and then maybe so but just to get by. Quote
whoopbazz Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 When owners, Gammies, and the like first came out in the late 80's it was known not to sharpen them. The angles and intricacies of the points could be duplicated as with the chemical sharpening processes. But I tried any how on a few dull ones. It took a very long time to get a point I considered fishable...and this was not like the original point on it. So I gave up sharpening these types of hooks. I do sharpen/touch up other "old" style hooks though. Quote
hookset on 3 Posted October 28, 2010 Author Posted October 28, 2010 Thanks fellow Bass Resource Brothers for all of your interesting answers. Baluga, it was kind of you to take the time and effort to photogragh your step by step instructions. When I'm on the water, I'll use your technique. Regards, Hookset on 3 Quote
zbigbadaaron Posted October 31, 2010 Posted October 31, 2010 just buy a new pack, hooks are not that expensive Quote
tbird Posted October 31, 2010 Posted October 31, 2010 Sharpening an Owner hook is like doing a retred on an Indy car tire ?? T Quote
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