Which Is More Effective In Your Opinion??

[MIbassin]

Hey guys-

 

I remember reading this topic somewhere on another site but i can not seem to find it now, 

 

When targeting big or bigger than average bass, do you believe it is more important to have a long slender lure or a shorter bulkier one?

 

Example…would you pull out a 13 inch ribbon tail worm or opt for a 7 inch senko??

 

I'm curious to see what everyone thinks….

[Raul]

I´ve never caught anything interesting with either if your choices, my number one "interesting catcher bait" is a jig with a Brush Hog as trailer. The curious thing here is that I caught my first 10 pounder with a Rapala size 7 Original Floating Minnow and my PB ( 13.86 lbs ) with a Rapala Shad Rap size 7 ( SR7SD ). If you ask me if I would choose those baits to do the same I would have to say NO.

[WRB]

The answer is; use a lure that represents what prey the big bass are feeding on.

The theory big bait equals big bass doesn't hold water, unless the big bass are targeting big lures.

Swimbaits work for example when bass are looking for that type of prey, otherwise a big swimbait becomes a curious object to the bass.

Tom

[Brian Needham]

well the 13 in ribbon tail and 7 in senko example is a bad one since they are two totally different types of baits and action.

 

you cant throw a swim jig when they are eating 8inch trout and you cant throw a hudd when they are eating young of year bluegill.

[MIbassin]

I get what you guys are saying, but i have never seen a worm at the bottom of a lake or had a bass throw one up…and yet they are possibly the most effective bass lure of all time

[flyfisher]

I get what you guys are saying, but i have never seen a worm at the bottom of a lake or had a bass throw one up…and yet they are possibly the most effective bass lure of all time

most effective may also have to do with the most used and length of time it has been around.

 

I would probably argue that the stick worm of the various types has surpassed the standard "rubber worm" in quality and numbers of bass.

 

people that target big bass do exactly what was mentioned earlier.  They find the forage and mimic that as best they can.  Many of my larger bass have been caught on stick baits, jigs and jitterbugs at night.  It is all about begin at the right place at the right time with the right bait presented in the right way.....much easier said than done

[deaknh03]

most effective may also have to do with the most used and length of time it has been around.

 

I would probably argue that the stick worm of the various types has surpassed the standard "rubber worm" in quality and numbers of bass.

 

people that target big bass do exactly what was mentioned earlier.  They find the forage and mimic that as best they can.  Many of my larger bass have been caught on stick baits, jigs and jitterbugs at night.  It is all about begin at the right place at the right time with the right bait presented in the right way.....much easier said than done

Right place, right time, mimicking the forage. Study those things.

[MIbassin]

I will, but how does a worm mimic the forage? Have you ever seen a worm in a lake? I have not. 

 

I personally do not think i have to match the forage exactly. Thats why i can catch bass on 6-8 inch trout swim baits when there are no trout and the bass are eating mostly panfish.

 

I think it is more about the way a bass thinks: if it has an easy meal, it will eat it

 

If i seem angry i promise you i am not..one of the downfalls of the internet.

[deaknh03]

I will, but how does a worm mimic the forage? Have you ever seen a worm in a lake? I have not. 

 

I personally do not think i have to match the forage exactly. Thats why i can catch bass on 6-8 inch trout swim baits when there are no trout and the bass are eating mostly panfish.

 

I think it is more about the way a bass thinks: if it has an easy meal, it will eat it

 

If i seem angry i promise you i am not..one of the downfalls of the internet.

Agreed, bass sometimes will strike at almost anything, but you asked about the big girls. You need to find where they are based on weather and time of season, meaning depth of water and relationship to structure. Then you have to figure out what they are eating in that body of water, because although they will strike anything, they will tend to hit something matching the baitfish more often, and the bigger bass are older, and wiser.

[MIbassin]

Agreed, bass sometimes will strike at almost anything, but you asked about the big girls. You need to find where they are based on weather and time of season, meaning depth of water and relationship to structure. Then you have to figure out what they are eating in that body of water, because although they will strike anything, they will tend to hit something matching the baitfish more often, and the bigger bass are older, and wiser.

Understood…but the worm mystery still remains.

[deaknh03]

Understood…but the worm mystery still remains.

It's no mystery, bass will hit anything. But if your targeting biggies, you need to fine tune.

[MIbassin]

It's no mystery, bass will hit anything. But if your targeting biggies, you need to fine tune.

Thanks for the help!

[deaknh03]

Thanks for the help!

Good luck!

[michang5]

I caught this worm/leech recently.

[WRB]

Worms represent several critters to bass depending on feeding activity.

Terrestrial critters would include night crawlers, snakes etc., aquatic critters like leaches and several species of baitfish. Worms are more than night crawlers, however night crawlers are good bass food. Night crawlers don't have ribbon tails, they are straight tail, leaches have ribbon tails for example.

What bass think a Senko is only they know. We may think a Senko represents a slowly deing prey or injured critter. There are several terrestrial and aquatic creatures that become prey to bass from insects to frogs, mice and rats, birds and lizards, worms and leaches, crayfish and bait fish of all types, a vast variety that makes bass fishing both exiting and challenging. If I had an easy answer to your question it would be offered. The only way to know is by trail and error and being observant. One day bass prefer 12" cinnamon blue neon straight tail worms, the next 4" oxblood color drop shot worm and you don't know until you offer it to the bass.

Tom

[MIbassin]

Worms represent several critters to bass depending on feeding activity.

Terrestrial critters would include night crawlers, snakes etc., aquatic critters like leaches and several species of baitfish. Worms are more than night crawlers, however night crawlers are good bass food. Night crawlers don't have ribbon tails, they are straight tail, leaches have ribbon tails for example.

What bass think a Senko is only they know. We may think a Senko represents a slowly deing prey or injured critter. There are several terrestrial and aquatic creatures that become prey to bass from insects to frogs, mice and rats, birds and lizards, worms and leaches, bait fish of all types, a vast variety that makes bass fishing both exiting and challenging. If I had an easy answer to your question it would be offered. The only way to know is by trail and error and being observant. One day bass prefer 12" cinnamon blue neon straight tail worms, the next 4" oxblood color drop shot worm and you don't know until you offer it to the bass.

Tom

Thanks WRB!