Siebert Outdoors Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 If you were buying or changing the hooks on your crankbait or jerkbait which of these two hooks would you prefer and why? Quote
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted November 22, 2013 Super User Posted November 22, 2013 ST 36. Straight points, plenty strong enough even in the smaller sizes. Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted November 22, 2013 Super User Posted November 22, 2013 I think you'll be fine with the 36 on regular cranks/jerks. I've upgraded some of my larger swimbaits to the St-56. Never used the 41's though. I actually just ordered a lot of trebles for my cranks and jerks but decided to go with Mustad KVD's instead. Purely off price point and I've used them before so I have confidence in them as well. 1 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted November 22, 2013 Super User Posted November 22, 2013 The St 36 is my choice unless I want a heaver hook for larger fish than bass like pike, musky or lake trout. I just started trying the mustad KVD's like MarkH mentioned & they have worked well. A-Jay swears by them. The gammy EWG work well too. 2 Quote
1234567 Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 All my cranks are st41 1/0. I have tried lately gammy short shank ewg magic eyes in the same size and I have lost more fish than with the owners. This is just my experience though. Quote
Super User NorcalBassin Posted November 22, 2013 Super User Posted November 22, 2013 Also a fan of st 36 Quote
War Eagle 44 Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 I'm a big fan of the 41's personally, although the 36's are really nice hooks as well. I think it would depend on what type bait I was changing the hooks on, say a jerkbait I'd more than likely stick with 36's because changing hooks on these lures alters their "suspendability". Now with square bills I always go 41's, this is a technique where you're mostly using heavier line and fishing around cover so I like the added advantage of the 2X 41. All my cranks are st41 1/0. I have tried lately gammy short shank ewg magic eyes in the same size and I have lost more fish than with the owners. This is just my experience though. I've been having this very same thing happen to me. The hooks are deadly sharp and high quality but for some reason fish just keep coming unbuttoned. I think it has something to do with the gap being opened up more than the KVD EWG style hooks. I never have problems hooking or keeping fish hooked on the KVD trebles. Quote
KDW96 Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 Personally never tried either,but im going to get some 36s to try. Right now i find the KVD 1x2x to be working out well for me. Quote
Super User CWB Posted November 23, 2013 Super User Posted November 23, 2013 36 are great. Been using Gammy magic eye short shank with great success. Both are inline, which I prefer, sharp as heck, but Gammys are a much better value and they work. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted November 25, 2013 Author Posted November 25, 2013 Thanks guys!! I'm taking a poll on a future product. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted November 25, 2013 Super User Posted November 25, 2013 The St 36 is my choice unless I want a heaver hook for larger fish than bass like pike, musky or lake trout. I'd pretty much echo what Dwight said. Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted November 25, 2013 Super User Posted November 25, 2013 Thanks guys!! I'm taking a poll on a future product. Nice! Send me one to demo please. Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted November 25, 2013 Super User Posted November 25, 2013 Nice! Send me one to demo please. Mike is such a nice guy he might just do that. 2 Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted November 25, 2013 Super User Posted November 25, 2013 Mike is such a nice guy he might just do that. This is true. Solid dude! Quote
Comfortably Numb Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Are y'all using the ewg or round ben style of KVD's? Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted November 25, 2013 Super User Posted November 25, 2013 Are y'all using the ewg or round ben style of KVD's? I was talking about the ewg style KVD's Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted November 25, 2013 Super User Posted November 25, 2013 Are y'all using the ewg or round ben style of KVD's? I use the ewg short shanks in the KVD. I have other brands that I prefer for round bend hooks. Quote
Comfortably Numb Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 OK Cool. Just got these KVD in #2 #4 #6. Should keep me busy changing over. Quote
War Eagle 44 Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 Uuuhhhh... the two's are definitely Mustads but the 4's & 6's don't have the same point as I'm used to seeing on my KVD trebles. 1 Quote
Comfortably Numb Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 Hmmm. Curious what you are seeing that is different? Thanks Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted November 30, 2013 Super User Posted November 30, 2013 Uuuhhhh... the two's are definitely Mustads but the 4's & 6's don't have the same point as I'm used to seeing on my KVD trebles. I agree. Mustad Triple Grips should have needle points, like the size 2 in your pic. Notice how the 6 and 4 have flat sides toward the point? That isn't the way Mustad sharpens their hooks. Quote
Comfortably Numb Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 Well after looking at all three sizes under a magnifying glass, none of the points are cone shaped. So I definitely do not have Mustad KVD's? Just want to be sure when I confront the seller. Thanks.. Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted November 30, 2013 Super User Posted November 30, 2013 I bought a bait off of ebay a few weeks ago that the seller said had KVD trebles. They looked exactly like regular KVD's but they had the same points as the one's pictured. I honestly don't know what to think. What I do know is all the KVD Triple Grips I have ever bought have needle points with no flat edges. Quote
War Eagle 44 Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 In my opinion the # 2's are real Mustad hooks, the other two I'm not so sure about. Mustad KVD trebles have what Mustad refers to as "Ultra Point" technology hook points which look nothing like the points on the 4's and 6's. Try doing a search for Mustad KVD trebles and have a look at their points, I've never seen any with the points like your hooks. Good luck getting this sorted out. Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted December 2, 2013 Super User Posted December 2, 2013 CN- What was the outcome of this? I ordered in some KVD Trebles too and didn't review mine to see if I had the same issue. I got some round bends and EWG's but not in every size of each style. Mine were purchased at Tackle Warehouse during the Veterans day sales. Quote
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