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108+ yrds on a cast

 

 

 

Those reels are sooo goood looking, to expensive for me though...

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With a spool that weights close to 16 grams, the Tatula is not going to even be in the same league as some of the upper end Daiwa reels.  While it will cast great for a reel in it's price range you have missed the mark with declaring it the casting champ.

Well, your statement isn't exactly 100% true. Yes the lighter spools will cast light lures better but when you get up to the 3/4 oz and heavier range a heavier spool will cast farther, simple physics.  

 

 

As to the original topic, the farthest casting reel I've used is a Calais DC. Non-DC reel is a Chronarch 101B that I've upgraded with different spool bearings and performed a complete polish on. Also have the lightest brake blocks (clear) Shimano offers and I've made a modification to them as well. I actually have 3 different color brakes, clear, smoke, and green, on the spool so I can fine tune for any condition. 

 

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Light weight spool is always an advantage when casting long distance. Big game marlin and tuna reels are up graded with lighter weight spools to improve casting live baits like mackerel to surface feeding fish. It's like a heavy flywheel, the inertia of the heavier spool causes it to spin faster then the lure and line is traveling = backlash.

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the majority of people that think they are "bombing a lure 70+ yards" are ridiculously over estimating casting distance.  don't sweat it.

 

I guess I was other way around. I thought I was casting around 40-50 yard range, until I run out of the line with Citica fully spooled with 65 braid in ideal set up. It should hold 80 yards, so I must be casting 80+. Anyhow, I don't like I run of the line and considering if I can get by with 50lbs. I fish very different type of water with limited number of gear, so the balancing and getting by with what  I have is the way of my fishing life.

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This forum is about the furthest casting low profile reel used by "you". The tatula is the furthest baitcasting reel I have ever used. By far. I have not used many other high end daiwa reels, so I don't know how far some of them cast, but this reel definitely outcast a zillion with most lures..

 

I'm on the market for another reel and you got my attention. Are you referring to the Type-R? Does your comparison include any Shimanos?

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There is a thread on tackletour asking the same question.  May be another one on this forum as well.  Wouldn't doubt it.  Most of the reels cited as the longest casting reels are out of my price range.  Previously I would have said my personal longest cast was with a 50th Anniversary Zillion, 12# mono and Zillion Flip and Pitch rod.  However, this past spring I was fishing in tidal water using a 3/4 oz. spoon on a 7' MHF Jupiter with an STX-L spooled with 40# braid.  This combo was slinging that spoon out there quite a ways.  Maybe even further than the Zillion because that cast had been made with a 3/4 oz. spinnerbait....not the most aerodynamic lure out there.

 

I feel I get nearly identical distances with most of my reels under typical fishing conditions.  Three of my Daiwa reels get a little better than the average: the 50th Zillion, a Purple Alphas (both stock) and a supertuned and upgraded TD-Z 105H.  Surprisingly, a Trion seems to do just as well with a cleaning by Mike of DVT, and it is on a rod only 6'10" long....a HF Quantum.  Its heavier spool isn't suppose to do as well as a light spool, but the reel doesn't seem to know that.  :teeth3:

 

EDIT:  I think a Tatula Type R is a must over the winter.  These reels are getting reviews too good to let one pass me by.

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Well, your statement isn't exactly 100% true. Yes the lighter spools will cast light lures better but when you get up to the 3/4 oz and heavier range a heavier spool will cast farther, simple physics.  

 

 

As to the original topic, the farthest casting reel I've used is a Calais DC. Non-DC reel is a Chronarch 101B that I've upgraded with different spool bearings and performed a complete polish on. Also have the lightest brake blocks (clear) Shimano offers and I've made a modification to them as well. I actually have 3 different color brakes, clear, smoke, and green, on the spool so I can fine tune for any condition. 

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Good point, but it is not just a simple matter of total weight, it is actually how the weight is distribtuted. Weight on the outer edge of a rotational mass has greater moment of innertia than if is located near the center of the mass. This makes a spool that is weighted on outside edge slower to start but once it is moving it has the potential to store some energy and keep rotating better than a spool that has its weight closer to center mass. Better for casting heavier baits. Spools that are light and have the majority of their weight near center of mass are faster to start but do not store as much energy and stop sooner, better for light baits.

The other factor is how the breaking is implemented, not all magforce z is the same. Spring stiffness and inducter design are two factors that determine how much and at what speed the inductor will engage the magnets and how much affect it will have. Spools like the RCS custom spools often found in Daiwa type R reels are tuned so that the inductor design and spool weight distribution work together to provide 6he best performance. Stock spools are not nearly as effective at this.

Great discussion so far, hope it stays positive.

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What isn't well known is Shimano was making precision bicycle parts when Lew Childre contracted them to manufacture his BB1 Speed Spool low profile baitcasting reels. We have the BB1 reel to thank for today's Shimano reels. Daiwa and Shimano make fabulous high end baitcasting reels and I own both brands, you can't go wrong with either brand. Ardent makes a very good and reliable baitcaster but not in the same class as the higher end reels. The Ardent I own is like the Energizer bunny, it keeps on going with little maintenance. Over the years my TD-X 103/105HiA's have been very low maintenance ounce the drags and bearings were upgraded. Shimano reels always had better drags and crank handles than Daiwa, casted very well, just needed more tender loving care tp preform at a high level.

If your budget is in the $150 to $200 price range, Daiwa Tatula 100 or R 100 should perform good for several years, time will tell.

It was Daiwa that retired my legacy 2500c's and 4500C's, Shimano Curado's were good reel, just higher maintenance back in the 90's. Shimsno Calcutta 300 arevmy swimbait reels, great casting reel and bulletproof.

Tom

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