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I was wondering what is the furthest casting low profile baitcasting reel ever made (or used by you)? $ not an issue and if you have upgrades to the reel, make certain to mention them.

 

In this scenario, lets assume that the rod being used is held constant. The reel must be effective at casting anything from 1/4-3/4oz baits.

 

 

EDIT: Hear-Say and furthest reel you have personally used

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Typically reels that excel at casting baits on the lower end of that scale do not perform as well when casting baits on the upper end and visa versa.

Most stock reels without the benefit of bearing and or spool upgrades are going to cast in the range of 30 to 40 yards in the hands of the average user.

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How could anybody possibly know that?

 

I would love objectivity but I am looking for opinions

 

For Example: The furthest casting Casting Reel I have used outside of this range is a Daiwa Z200H, Furthest Inside of this range is a T3 MX, with full ceramic bearings and a very fine polish, with a spool upgrade.

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I would love objectivity but I am looking for opinions

 

For Example: The furthest casting Casting Reel I have used outside of this range is a Daiwa Z200H, Furthest Inside of this range is a T3 MX, with full ceramic bearings and a very fine polish, with a spool upgrade.

Ok, you meant our furthest casting reels, not the furthest casting reel ever made, sorry about that.  Mine would probably be either my Fuego or Zillion, throwing 3/8- 1/2oz.   Both have Orange Seals but otherwise stock.  I think a lot of it has to do with the rod and bait in conjunction with the reel.

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Ok, you meant our furthest casting reels, not the furthest casting reel ever made, sorry about that.  Mine would probably be either my Fuego or Zillion, throwing 3/8- 1/2oz.   Both have Orange Seals but otherwise stock.  I think a lot of it has to do with the rod and bait in conjunction with the reel.

Joe, next time someone has a 100M spool up for grabs cheap, snap it up, I think you will be impressed with the difference in will make in either the Fuego or the Zillion.

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Joe, next time someone has a 100M spool up for grabs cheap, snap it up, I think you will be impressed with the difference in will make in either the Fuego or the Zillion.

I will be on the look out.  I think the Tackle Trap has them and Southwestern might too.  I want to get a 50MG spool for one of my 100D's also.

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If price isn't a concern the Daiwa Steez may be the best production baitcasting reel on the market.

Shimano Core fans may dispute that claim, both are excellent casting reels.

In the mid price, again Daiwa may have the longest casting production reel with the Tatula R, the new reel hasn't been out long enough to be tinkered with. Out of the box this reel cast long distance with ease.

The test of a good casting reel takes time on the water under real fishing conditions. When reel is clean and tuned they cast good, when they have several hours of use under various weather conditions, the reel starts to show it's real performance capabilities. Reels that require constant maintenance to perform well are not worth the effort to achieve 5 extra yards distance.

Judging casting distance is subjective, unless each reel is tested on the same rod with the same line and lure on a measured field. We can't do that unless we own the various reels to test side by side.TT does tackle testing, you might want to research their evaluations.

Tom

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I don't fish any of the heavy reels much any more so that takes most the distance casting reels out of the equation for my own personal use. With that said my furthest casting outfit is fully customized TDZ 100m on an NRX 873 rod with 12# tatsu.

While distance is fun and intriguing, there comes a point in time where I feel like you can outcast your hook setting range when talking about plastics and jigs. Reaction baits I don't think it matters much.

Assuming a fairly aerodynamic bait, I am more than satisfied with any of my shimano 50 sized variants.

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Theres a Youtube video of a guy pendulum casting a Conquest DC 130 meters (422 feet). Shimano positions the Calais DC above the Conquest DC with a more advanced DC unit. Im sure the Calais DC could equal that.

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A Shimano Calcutta TE DC 250 is the furthest casting reel I've ever cast with, never owned one though. 

 

I have a stock Lew's Speed Spool that casts further than any stock reel I've ever owned other than maybe when my Curado 200BSF was brand new. I have a super tuned Curado 200B that casts farther than any other reel I own right now. 

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If price isn't a concern the Daiwa Steez may be the best production baitcasting reel on the market.

Shimano Core fans may dispute that claim, both are excellent casting reels.

In the mid price, again Daiwa may have the longest casting production reel with the Tatula R, the new reel hasn't been out long enough to be tinkered with. Out of the box this reel cast long distance with ease.

The test of a good casting reel takes time on the water under real fishing conditions. When reel is clean and tuned they cast good, when they have several hours of use under various weather conditions, the reel starts to show it's real performance capabilities. Reels that require constant maintenance to perform well are not worth the effort to achieve 5 extra yards distance.

Judging casting distance is subjective, unless each reel is tested on the same rod with the same line and lure on a measured field. We can't do that unless we own the various reels to test side by side.TT does tackle testing, you might want to research their evaluations.

Tom

Do you own both the core and steez? If so, What properties led you to favoring the Steez?

Thanks

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Non dc reel is the antares 2012. JDM dc is the antares dc or the USDM calais dc like Stitch said.

 

Read Jun's Comments at the bottom.

http://www.japantackle.com/Shimano/Shimano_12Antares.htm

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108+ yrds on a cast

 

 

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I must be doing something wrong. I don't get how you guys can cast 100 yards. I have a Lews Tournament pro speed spool on a MH duckett and even if I really try to bomb something far like a 1/2oz jig I can only get maybe 25-30 yards. I have the spool loose and mag brakes off and one cent. brake on. At first I thought I was just underestimating the distance but then I thought about it in boat lengths. 100 yards is almost 17 18' boat lengths and I can tell you that i get nowhere near that. Sorry to derail the thread.

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I must be doing something wrong. I don't get how you guys can cast 100 yards. I have a Lews Tournament pro speed spool on a MH duckett and even if I really try to bomb something far like a 1/2oz jig I can only get maybe 25-30 yards. I have the spool loose and mag brakes off and one cent. brake on. At first I thought I was just underestimating the distance but then I thought about it in boat lengths. 100 yards is almost 17 18' boat lengths and I can tell you that i get nowhere near that. Sorry to derail the thread.

the majority of people that think they are "bombing a lure 70+ yards" are ridiculously over estimating casting distance.  don't sweat it.

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Casting jigs a long distance is relative to the presentation and where you fish. Very few bass anglers will cast a jig further than 30 yards or 90' and that is a long cast. Where and how I fish jigs 90' is my average casting distance during bright sunny days. Occasionally a target area is nearly twice that distance, 50 to 60 yards, my casting distance limit using jigs and casting with my jig rods. Casting over 150' under fishing conditions with a 7/16 oz jig, excluding the trailer, is a very long cast, requiring skill and highly tuned reels with 10 to 12 lb mono or FC line. The only reason to make such a long cast is circumstances that prevent a shorter cast, like a buoy line or something preventing you from getting closer. Sometimes the situation is spooky bass in gin clear water.

The only way you know how far you are casting is marking the line with a sharpie pen at measured distance or casting on a measured distance like a football field.

I fish alone most of the time, however fish with a partner on occasion. There is some pride in tackle ownership, I take pride in my casting distance because it comes into play with the presentation used.

At night casting a long distance isn't required and 50' to 75' becomes a standard distance, the bass are less wary at night where I fish and you can use use heavier line 15 to 20 lb test.

Tom

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Longest casting reel I've used was either the new lews bb1 pro or chronarch ci4. Might have to give the edge to the bb1. I had Boca os bearings with no shields installed and was casting 1/4oz-1/2oz lipless cranks a mile.

When it comes down to just amazing reels that are light weight and have great casting distance, I'd have to say the 50 series shimanos and daiwa alphas are my favorite...

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KVD is often regarded among his peers on the elite circuit as one of the longest casters.  When he was interviewed he said that he could reach a distance of 60 yards under ideal conditions.  Take it for what it's worth.

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Tatula, and it ain't even a close competition.

With a spool that weights close to 16 grams, the Tatula is not going to even be in the same league as some of the upper end Daiwa reels.  While it will cast great for a reel in it's price range you have missed the mark with declaring it the casting champ.

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16 grams hvy? Do that makr lite bait cast short n heavy long

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This forum is about the furthest casting low profile reel used by "you". The tatula is the furthest baitcasting reel I have ever used. By far. I have not used many other high end daiwa reels, so I don't know how far some of them cast, but this reel definitely outcast a zillion with most lures..

I was wondering what is the furthest casting low profile baitcasting reel ever made (or used by you)?, The wording in your response made me think that your response was to the first part of the question.    My mistake,  so which version of the Zillion reels are you comparing your experience to.  I would bet a Zillion with a PE long cast spool, a 100M spool or a Zillion HLC spool would have no problem keeping up.

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In casting actual lures than one would use for bass fishing, I don't think there is a huge difference between the best reels. If its just a hypothetical casting contest, I can dump my Calais or Matrix IIs with 15 lb mono and a 3 or 4 oz  sinker with a flipping stick. Make a lot of money off fresh water guys who "cast far"...Oh, its 3 parts copier lube, 1 part Mobil 1, 1/2 part secret ingredient...

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The rod plays a big role in casting for distance. The more parabolic and longer the rod the further a reel can cast. The lure type, weight and aerodynamic it is the further it will travel. Lots of factors to consider. Wind and temperature factor in casting distance. When you have 2 anglers casting the same type and weight lures to the same target and one reel cast significantly further by both anglers, that is a good comparison.

My old 90's vintage TD-X 103HiA's, super tuned with up graded bearings, are still my benchmark casting reels.

These reels require skill to cast long distance anyone who tries to cast my reels blows them up and must adjust the end cap to add spool tension for friends to use. The old Daiwa's are good reels, but not for everyone and that also should be a consideration...ease of casting.

Tom

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