JWOA Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 here in Ga it doesnt really get cold. Im looking at buying some new line dont have good experience with fluor...lost a lot of lures last years...but im willing to try it again this year...What do you say??? Quote
Brian Needham Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 man I like FC. with line and lure conditioner it is just as manageable as mono, maybe more so . I say give it another try. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted November 7, 2013 Super User Posted November 7, 2013 i use fluoro every chance i can Quote
camovan Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 I say 2 less lost lures pays for top shelf flouro vs whatever you used before. Quote
LMB ANGLER Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 here in Ga it doesnt really get cold. Im looking at buying some new line dont have good experience with fluor...lost a lot of lures last years...but im willing to try it again this year...What do you say??? is the water stained where you fish? if it is you can just stay with braid plus you will cast further than fluorocarbon. Quote
skeletor6 Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 here in Ga it doesnt really get cold. Im looking at buying some new line dont have good experience with fluor...lost a lot of lures last years...but im willing to try it again this year...What do you say??? How much are you willing to spend? If its around $10 you are better with mono. For around $20 you can get sunline FC Sniper and get 3 spools out of it. The added abrasion resistance and knot strength will lead to less fish lost. That's not counting many other advantages. I have lost very, very few lures since I made the switch to premium fluorocarbon. Both 8, 10, and 12lb. KVD L&L is a must. I use it on all lines. Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 7, 2013 Super User Posted November 7, 2013 Sunline FC Sniper is premium 100% fluorocarbon line, however it's about $30 for 165 yds, expensive line. Sunline is also honest with their line diameter to lb test data, most other brands are not. Knot strength is an issue with FC line, 80% knot strength is about as good as it gets. For this reason most FC line now label their 12 lb as 10 lb, for one example, comparing line diameter data. That should bother you, if it doesn't so be it. Premium mono lines can achieve 100% knot strength with common knots and are about 1/3rd the price. Mono, like braid, floats, so you may loose some feed back with bottom bumping lures compared to FC. The compromise is FC hybrid line, mono with FC outer layer. Agian you should be aware of line diameters and select hybrid based on line diameter, not the label lb test, if that is an issue with you. Line conditioners are good for both FC and mono. Tom Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted November 7, 2013 Super User Posted November 7, 2013 I have nothing against f/c although I don't care to use it, nor do I care to deal with a line conditioner. I'm a braid and leader user 95% of the time for all species of fish. I do not fish defensively and I do not concern myself with abrasion, I just go after fish and take my chances. I probably have lost somewhere around 20 hard lures in the last 2 weeks, not a big deal as I'm catching lots of nice fish. Losing jigs is another story, whether they get chewed up from saltwater fish or get snagged fishing for bass, your going to lose a lot of them. IMO being worried about losing a 5lb fish may keep you from catching a 10 lb one. 1 Quote
JWOA Posted November 7, 2013 Author Posted November 7, 2013 How much are you willing to spend? If its around $10 you are better with mono. For around $20 you can get sunline FC Sniper and get 3 spools out of it. The added abrasion resistance and knot strength will lead to less fish lost. That's not counting many other advantages. I have lost very, very few lures since I made the switch to premium fluorocarbon. Both 8, 10, and 12lb. KVD L&L is a must. I use it on all lines. Im willing to spend 20 dollars at most maybe 30 on FC...I just cant get my knot right with tht line Quote
Brian Needham Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 what knot are you tying? I use an improved clinch. simple and easy for me to tie. Quote
JayKumar Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Those of us in the biz side of bassin' know that fluoro has a WIDE range of quality differences, way wider than mono. Suggest a well-known consistent-quality line like Toray or Sunline. Otherwise mono works fine, still my line of choice.... Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted November 7, 2013 Super User Posted November 7, 2013 Im willing to spend 20 dollars at most maybe 30 on FC...I just cant get my knot right with tht line San Diego Jam knot. Youtube it. Quote
Craiger12 Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 I went with Toray Superhard Upgrade a few years back for all bottom contact presentations except heavy weeds and will not go back. It is expensive at $37 for 164 yards, but I can fill 2 reels with one spool using backing and the line lasts a full season, longer if I don't break off too many times and just need more line. Worth the increase in price IMO. Quote
JWOA Posted November 7, 2013 Author Posted November 7, 2013 is the water stained where you fish? if it is you can just stay with braid plus you will cast further than fluorocarbon. Depends on what time of the year It is...like in the spring the water is real clear...come summer its murky....fall its darker....winter it starts to clear back up..but if I fish the WMA's its very clear...like if i were to fish up north Quote
JWOA Posted November 7, 2013 Author Posted November 7, 2013 what knot are you tying? I use an improved clinch. simple and easy for me to tie. Idk the one that Ive seen shawn grisby do...not the one he doesnt know the name to but the other one....Ive lost 140 dollars worth of lures...scared to give it a try again...but the line was so nice...so sensitive. Quote
down4ttown Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Are you bank fishing? If so, I would go braid. It is just too tough getting lures back while fishing the banks. Quote
Brian Needham Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 have to tie it perfect, lots of spit to ensure that line is wet and slides good to not burn it. I dont understand those who just lick in the line, I wont risk it. practice tying that knot over and over, sometimes I have to tie a knot 4 times before I am willing to fish it. you'll get there. 1 Quote
bassin is addicting Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 have to tie it perfect, lots of spit to ensure that line is wet and slides good to not burn it. I dont understand those who just lick in the line, I wont risk it. practice tying that knot over and over, sometimes I have to tie a knot 4 times before I am willing to fish it. you'll get there. i give it a good tug once i'm done to make sure it holds. improved clinch is the only knot i use... Quote
Brian Needham Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Improved Clinch is all I use too. I have tried the palimar and a few other knots but never had the confidence to fish them. with FC the knot has to be "pretty", perfectly stacked. There are many good knots out there just pick one you can tie perfectly, as most issues with FC boil down to a bad knot. Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 8, 2013 Super User Posted November 8, 2013 I switched from Sunline Shooter to Blackwater Toray Solaroam Bass-High Class FC because of knot strength issues. Whatever knot you use must be tied properly without creating any flatten line within the knot and kept wet during the tying process, clinching tight. Knot strength is a big problem with FC line, if it wasn't we wouldn't be posting so many different knots to use. The Toray line referenced cost about $13 for 86 yard spools. Go on line and check it out, good line. Tom Quote
skeletor6 Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 Im willing to spend 20 dollars at most maybe 30 on FC...I just cant get my knot right with tht line I would advise that you get sunline FC sniper. Wait for an upcoming sale or take advantage of the hook up tackles 20% off. The line is not $30 there are constant sales on this line. THUT had a sale last year buy 1 get one free. Came out to about $11 a spool. Also a month ago it was on sale for $14.98 Knot strength isn't an issue while tying sound knots and the advantages of fluorocarbon line far out due any monofilament for sinking techniques. On every thread where someone isn't asking about braid there just has to be someone gloating about it. Read the OP's post. He did his homework and is interested in the right line for his purpose. Quality FC was a game changer for me and I ripped off over $100 of braid and mono for the switch. Quote
JWOA Posted November 8, 2013 Author Posted November 8, 2013 Are you bank fishing? If so, I would go braid. It is just too tough getting lures back while fishing the banks. I am fishing from the bank...but i would lose my lures when i would tie on a new one and then cast....or id just tie one on and get a swallow by a fish and id lose the lure and the fish Quote
Super User retiredbosn Posted November 9, 2013 Super User Posted November 9, 2013 here in Ga it doesnt really get cold. Im looking at buying some new line dont have good experience with fluor...lost a lot of lures last years...but im willing to try it again this year...What do you say??? I say forget about fluoro, get a quality hybrid line. For me (i have some neuropathy in my hands) the difference between the fluoro and hybrid sensitivity wise isn't noticeable. The hybrid will give u some of the advantages of both of the lines. Sensitivity is better than straight mono, knot strength is better than fluoro, stretch is about the same. Most hybrid lines are neutral buoyancy, this means no bow in the line while bottom contact fishing. Most hybrid lines have closed cell construction so they don't absorb water and weaken like mono. Although these lines are a compromise, you really do get the best attributes of both line types. Quote
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