FishingMastah1 Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 I'm trying to fish the zoom super fluke on 30 lb braid, and the fluke will not stay under the water, especially if I jerk it like a jerkbait, it just spins to the top. Would switching to fluorocarbon solve this problem? Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted November 4, 2013 Super User Posted November 4, 2013 You could try fluoro but also look into a Gamakatsu Superline hook in a 1/8 or 1/16. With the speed of working it, it shouldnt sink very far and keep you in the subsurface to 1 foot range. Also, try a SK Caffeine Shad. It's heavier than a fluke and it's a REALLY good soft plastic jerkbait. I pretty much use them over zoom flukes now because I like that little bit of heaviness to it. I can fish it unweighted on a 4/0 EWG and keep it subsurface and it flutters really nice on the fall. Great bait. EDIT- Also wanted to add that if you're working the bait to fast it's going to keep it up or on the top of the water. Not a bad thing if bass are busting the surface on bait. But keep that in mind, may need to slow down. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted November 4, 2013 Super User Posted November 4, 2013 You could add a nail weight to the bait, or use a weighted swimbait hook. 1 Quote
FishingMastah1 Posted November 4, 2013 Author Posted November 4, 2013 Gamakatsu's website is always so slow Quote
Super User BassinLou Posted November 4, 2013 Super User Posted November 4, 2013 This is one of the rare instances I would say to use a mono leader. The fluke will swim more life like. Even with fluro, flukes swim with restraint. Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted November 4, 2013 Super User Posted November 4, 2013 If you are using a EWG hook you can try putting a small split shot on the part of the hook that hangs down below the fluke. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted November 5, 2013 Super User Posted November 5, 2013 Ditch the flukes and get a bait with a little more density, like the Yamamoto D-shad, SK Caffeine shad, or Havoc The Jerk. I really like the Havoc bait, it's cheap, shimmies on the fall, is way more durable than the caffeine shad, and has more tail "action" than the D-shad. It comes in all the colors you need for a soft jerk bait........I.E. white, bubblegum, and several forms of green pumpkin and/or watermelon. I do not like using hooks with weight on the shank, and I find a plain 4/0 Gamakatsu EWG super-line hook, with about 3 feet of 17lb fluorocarbon leader tied to 20 or 30lb braid will keep the bait "down" to where I want it. Soft jerkbaits are one of my favorite ways to fish shallow or over top of grass at any depth. I catch a ton of fish on them when I want to cover water in what I like to call "slow fast mode" and don't feel like plodding along with senkos, shaky heads, or drop shots and the bass don't quite want to commit to a topwater, are not in the mood for hitting a crank, swim-jig, or spinnerbait, nor are they interested in lures falling fast like t-rigged plastics or jigs. I have fished all the ones I mentioned, including flukes, and I like the Havoc one the best. Besides, EVERY TIME I order flukes anymore, they ALWAYS come bent all out of shape, yes you can boil the tails to get them straight, but dang it, I ain't got no time for that. 2 Quote
FishingMastah1 Posted November 5, 2013 Author Posted November 5, 2013 Havoc The Jerk. I really like the Havoc bait, it's cheap, shimmies on the fall, is way more durable than the caffeine shad, and has more tail "action" than the D-shad. It comes in all the colors you need for a soft jerk bait........ Havoc the Jerk looks like a nice lure, how much heavier is it compared to a super fluke? Would it stay sub surface with fluorocarbon? I'm not proficient enough at fishing nor have the funds to buy braid and floro, I would have to use straight fluorocarbon. Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted November 5, 2013 Super User Posted November 5, 2013 Just rig it with the nose bent very slightly down. When you move it it will keep the bait just under the surface. 1 Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted November 5, 2013 Super User Posted November 5, 2013 Just rig it with the nose bent very slightly down. When you move it it will keep the bait just under the surface. X2 You can make a fluke skitter across the top or dive down when twitched. A heavier hook, like WW2 mentioned, will help act as a keel and add a little weight. Weightless Flukes are one of my go to baits in the summer. I prefer 5" Bass Assassin's though. Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted November 5, 2013 Super User Posted November 5, 2013 I typically fish the magnum fluke on a 5/0 and the super fluke on either a 3/0 or 4/0 Quote
FishingMastah1 Posted November 5, 2013 Author Posted November 5, 2013 Just rig it with the nose bent very slightly down. When you move it it will keep the bait just under the surface. X2 You can make a fluke skitter across the top or dive down when twitched. A heavier hook, like WW2 mentioned, will help act as a keel and add a little weight. Weightless Flukes are one of my go to baits in the summer. I prefer 5" Bass Assassin's though. I am not good at texas rigging... at all for some reason, hense why I posted the topic Texas rigging hell... lol. I use a 3/0 extra wide on the super fluke. Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted November 5, 2013 Super User Posted November 5, 2013 T-rigging is something you need to become proficient at if your going to do much fishing. Watch a few how to videos, grab a couple of old baits and practice until you can do it in your sleep. it may take a little practice buy you will get it and be glad that you did. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted November 5, 2013 Super User Posted November 5, 2013 What color flukes? Some of the colors seem to be more rubbery and stay nearer to the surface than others which I am guessing is due to the density of the plastic. For me the watermelon candy, mardi gras and moccasin blue seem to be the densest while the whites, pinks and other colors seem to be the least dense. I am sure there is a reason for it but i can't figure it out other than by looking at each bag of baits. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted November 5, 2013 Super User Posted November 5, 2013 You could add a nail weight to the bait, or use a weighted swimbait hook. The way to go, or a bullet weight if it doesn't pick up too much debris. I use a mono leader and purposely fish flukes on top or sub water. I probably fish flukes in Florida canals 90% of the time this way. Quote
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