Shelf Life Of Bullets?

[Insanity]

No not at the stores. Lol

At home. I had my bed side pistol loaded with some cheap CCI 38 special that where about four years maybe older. Anyway thought I'd empty it and go get another box. Walked outside aimed down range and click, click, click, boom, click. ( il leave out the sounds I was making).

U got to be freaking kidding me! What if someone had broke in. Still mad as heck! And it happened last year.

Now I no there cheap shells. I didn't aim for them to be the last I had, it just ended up that way.

But my dad was claiming a few years back the government was going to make the gun powder have a short self life. So u can't stock pile ammo as easily?

Wondering now if it is that. Or maybe it had to do with the aluminum casings? As the one that did shoot split.

I've seen green bullets shoot just fine. These looked fine and wouldn't shoot. Lol

Anyone else having miss firing old ammo.

I'm getting a box of self defense loads for it. But wondering if they have a self life. Or how long is recommended?

My step fathers got shot gun shells that are 30 plus years old and they work just fine.

How ever I recently fired a few of my shotgun slugs and shot. Just to check it. And had one of them miss fire. Thinking it was a oo buck that didn't fire.

First 12 gauge she'll I've ever seen not fire.

[tomustang]

I would venture to guess where you have your bullets there is a ton of moisture.

[Insanity]

Was in bed stand next to bed. Dry enough the gun has no rust. And it seems to rust easy. How ever we are humid here at times.

I may have answered my self while I was running on above. I think it was the aluminum casings. Reaction to gunpowder in the long run. Maybe?

[bigbill]

I'm firing off 1937 Turkish 8mm mausers ammo and it all goes BANG. Even my reloads from the mid 70's all goes bang. I store my ammo in 50cal ammo cans. My ccw ammo is imported and the bullet and primer has a red laquer seal around them. I never had a failure using imported ammo.

I never had a shelf life problem with any new ammo and my rifle reloads too.

[FD.]

Cheap ammo usually = click, click.

 

Use a high quality round for self defense.

[ww2farmer]

I still use  loose, non collectable USGI WW2 surplus M2 ball .30 cal ammo. Just for kicks I put one full bandoleer (48 rds on enblocs) of DEN 42 (Denver Arsenal, mfg, 1942) through one of my M1's last week, all went boom, all hit the target. I followed that up with short session of 35 rounds of WRA 45 ( Winchster mfg. 1945) .45 ACP through one of my 1911A1's and that all fed and fired reliably............no comment on my shooting ability with the pistol LMAO. About 10 years ago I shot up a TON of 1931, and 1937 mfg. Frankfurt Arsenal M1 ball that was stored well out of my M1's,1903's, and 1917's. No issues there either. It's all about how it was/is stored. Moisture = death to ammo. If it has been stored right it will outlast all of us.

[Insanity]

But that's what I mean.

The really old stuff works fine.

I'm asking does the newer stuff that's say five years old still work?(plain brand ammo. I'd assume the high dolor stuff works as folks wouldn't stock pile it as much because of the cost)

My dad was warning me ten years ago he heard the government shortened the shelf life of the gun powder.

Not downing the government just asking if others have had any problems with newer ammo made in the USA.

[VolFan]

Never had problems you speak of with any grade of ammo as long as it was stored correctly. An occasional primer fail on cheap stuff, sure. But what you're having is almost certainly mishandling or a big bad batch of ammo.

[Insanity]

I sure hope so. Cause I'm waiting for this shortage of ammo to be over and I'm buying a ton. Just encase this crap happens again. Will put in ammo cans with Damp Rid for long term.

[SPEEDBEAD.]

Get a Food Saver and vacuum seal it, store it in a cool place.

 

No moisture.

[Ratherbfishing]

Have you ever shot these rounds through this exact weapon before?  Some primers don't "like" certain firing pins.  Don't get rid of them until you check.

[Insanity]

Have you ever shot these rounds through this exact weapon before?  Some primers don't "like" certain firing pins.  Don't get rid of them until you check.

Yea the other 45 shells shot fine. But I kept the last five shell for around 5 years I'd guess

It's a five shot 38 special Rossi. Firing pin made onto the hammer.

Good thought though I had a heck of a time with a 9 mm one time. It wouldn't feed rite.stove piped um.

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Only problem I ever had was with a Tec-9 I purchased from a gun show. It would click, click, click, click through about four rounds. Then it would cut loose about 6 shots (in one trigger pull) all at once. Blew the primers clean through the shell and out the barrel. I recall these being Blazer or CCI aluminum 9mm. Looking at the rounds that did not shoot. You could see where the firing pin had knocked a decent sized dent into the primer. Compareable to what most any handgun would leave.

[Insanity]

Heck I guess it was just those shells thank good ness. I'm not buying no more aluminum jackets period.

Think they really need to be shrink wrapped. I've got water proof ammo cans.

Thinking if I put some ( damp rid) in it. It will pull any moisture out of the air in damp rid is the stuff in the little white paper bags you get in stuff from stores.

Works great in camper by the way. No more mildew. Or damp nights.

But the tech nine brought up something the 9 mm I mentioned above was an assault style rifle. Crapy high point arms but other then the kick I loved that thing. ( man a pistol round will smack the far out of u through an 18 barrel). Ran 100 rounds threw it and it started misfiring.

I cleaned It as best I could but couldn't figure out how to disassemble. Thinking it was just dirty. As long as you jerked the trigger it would fire but if you squeezed it slow it would click. So I sold it to a buddy for half price. Wasn't but about 26 inches long but it would put a 9 mm Luger round way down range on target. And looked cool to. Black on silver. Heat shielded barrel. Barrel peep sights. Thinking it was scope railed to. Wish I'd kept it as I've now found a library book on how to dissemble darn near any gun. Darn it ! And now they have bad ars lights, lasers and all. Darn it!

Oh and if a tech nine Breaks the fire pin. And you shorten it while brazing it back together it will be full auto. But it dumps the hole clip at once.

And i found the perfect pin to hold the springs on a 357 Tarus ( humm sp? ). 2 oo eagle claw cut makes a perfect straight pin. Took one coil off the hammer and half a coil off the trigger. Perfect and not light enough on the trigger to Barney fife your self. And gotta love Tarus warranty I forgot the cylinder pin was reversed threaded, one time and striped it. Mailed it off to them and they fixed it. Even cleaned and buffed out rock dings where someone before me had dropped it in gravel. Put my mirror finish I had on it, back. Left my springs alone which surprised me. I'd have figured they would have replace them when they noticed but they didn't. Cost $50 bucks to insure and mail though. Ouch.

Wish I'd thought to contact high point arms now that I think about it. Man I love guns. But il shut up now.

Since this run on a body want talk about anything else?

Any cool looking shorter and cheaper then an AR assault stuff I should for. Want another toy when I can afford it. Can't find another high point or I'd buy it.

[retiredbosn]

I have a high point 9mm that has been flawless operationally. They also have a lifetime warranty. BTW I've been thinking about getting one of those 9mm assault rifle thingies need a new deer rifle first. Also budsgunshop (just Google it) sells high point, shipping is free, just need a ffl dealer to receive it for u, most charge about 30 bucks to do that.

[bigbill]

Cheap ammo usually = click, click.

 

Use a high quality round for self defense.

I just finished a 500rd fire test for reliability and dependability for a brand new 1911 before I can carry it ccw. I used the Russian wolf 45acp ball ammo. I've never had a fail to fire with the new imported ammo yet. In my ccw magnum it's my reloads. The Russian wolf 45acp ball ammo was at onetime $6.67 a box of 50rds.

 

I gave one of my buddies some Russian Barnaul 223 soft point ammo for his son to hunt deer with. It turned out to be more accurate than a named brand ammo made here. I knew the Russian barnaul ammo was the most accurate of the other imported ammo but I didn't think it would be more accurate than our ammo here. The lad got himself a nice deer too.

 

I think the worst ammo for click, click is the 22 rimfire ammo. I don't think the primer material goes completely around the rim. When we just get a click if we turn the bullet and fire it again it goes bang most of the time. There is a few rimfire manufacturers who are having fail to fire problems.

[ww2farmer]

I have fired thousands of rounds of cheap Wolf and Tula ammo............it all goes bang. In fact the worst ammo I have ever used was Remington UMC .45 acp, which around here is about twice as much as the cheap import stuff.

[FD.]

I shoot cheap ammo at the range.  Thousands of rounds of tul ammo in both 9mm and .223 every year.  But I reload the clips with Hornady before I leave the range. Just my personal preference.

[Sam]

I still have .22 long rifle bullets that are over 30 years old.

 

No reason to use them but after reading your posts will probably take them to the Amelia Lake target range this coming summer and see if they are still good.

[Insanity]

My dad's got a lot of wolf ammo stored. We shot some when he came to visit a few years ago all it worked fine and there aluminum casing. Though he lives out west with almost no humidity. It had to be moisture and the cheap aluminum not sealed well on CCI.

Man I wish walmart could get restocked with ammo here. I need to shoot a little I'm having with draws. Lol