Loop_Dad Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 I'm try to clean out the bearings of my Sliver Max. It has three bearings for the spool. The middle bearing is kept in place with a small pin to the shaft, but this pin does not come out. I found Boca Bearing has a little tool to remove this, but I do not want to spend $40 on $60 reel (well it was free reel for me!) Anybody knows how to remove this pin without special tool? Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted October 30, 2013 Super User Posted October 30, 2013 You can remove it with pliers/punch/hammer but IT'S NOT ADVISED. You can also make your own pliers. I did this at first but the pins in my 2 Daiwas were freaking in there good. I ended up bending them both. It was more of a test since I had bocas on the way and the hedgehog studio spool pin tool. It's a pricey little tool but if you plan on doing regular maintenance on a few reels it's well worth it. 1 Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 It's very difficult to remove the pin without damaging it or the spool without a proper tool. Strip the line and flush the bearing in place by spraying with carb cleaner. Alternatively, leave the line on and find a shallow bottle cap etc to dip the bearing in place. 2 Quote
Loop_Dad Posted October 30, 2013 Author Posted October 30, 2013 It's very difficult to remove the pin without damaging it or the spool without a proper tool. Strip the line and flush the bearing in place by spraying with carb cleaner. Alternatively, leave the line on and find a shallow bottle cap etc to dip the bearing in place. I was just thinking about doing that without removing. Didn't know about carb cleaner. Thanks! Quote
Loop_Dad Posted October 30, 2013 Author Posted October 30, 2013 I just found a perfect thing to dip the bearing in while it is on the shaft. The medicine bottle from a pharmacy. The diameter is just perfect to fit inside of the spool rim. I just cut it to the correct depth. Quote
TiNuts Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 I used to advocate for not using the tool. I have a couple reels where the pin isn't too tight and had no problems getting it out without the tool. Next reel I got, the pin was pretty tight and I bent the heck out of it. Had to wait about 2 months (over the summer) to get a replacement pin. Get the tool, it's worth it. I also recommend removing the bearing shields. I've done the soaking them thing, but I've found a bit of build up/gunk that's won't make it out without removal of the shields, even on essentially new bearings. I use a small treble hook to remove the clips and it works pretty well. Quote
Loop_Dad Posted October 31, 2013 Author Posted October 31, 2013 I used to advocate for not using the tool. I have a couple reels where the pin isn't too tight and had no problems getting it out without the tool. Next reel I got, the pin was pretty tight and I bent the heck out of it. Had to wait about 2 months (over the summer) to get a replacement pin. Get the tool, it's worth it. I also recommend removing the bearing shields. I've done the soaking them thing, but I've found a bit of build up/gunk that's won't make it out without removal of the shields, even on essentially new bearings. I use a small treble hook to remove the clips and it works pretty well. I've done cleaning out and oil the bearings of two reels previously. I didn't remove the shields, but they are performing better. You made me wonder if I could have done better. How do you remove the shields? The clips you mentioned are for the bearings, not for the shields correct? Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted October 31, 2013 Super User Posted October 31, 2013 If you're really serious about about cleaning your bearings, get an ultra sonic cleaner. If your bearings are really gunked up with grease, soaking alone probably isn't going to get them completely clean. I bought my cleaner on the auction site, it was right around $125 and works great. I know they make some cheaper ones ($20-$30) but I've never used them and don't know how well they work. 1 Quote
TiNuts Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I've done cleaning out and oil the bearings of two reels previously. I didn't remove the shields, but they are performing better. You made me wonder if I could have done better. How do you remove the shields? The clips you mentioned are for the bearings, not for the shields correct? If you look closely at the outside edge of the side of the bearing, you'll see a little clip that goes around the bearing with a small gap at the ends. Basically take the hook and dig out one of the ends and gently pull it out. Then stick the hook into the gap of the shield and pull it off. I've found white gunky stuff caked on the shields and cages (Abu Garcia bearings). I can't say that I think it will perform any better than just soaking, but I feel better about it. It's not something you should have to do every time you clean them. I pulled these pics off google. 1 Quote
Loop_Dad Posted October 31, 2013 Author Posted October 31, 2013 If you look closely at the outside edge of the side of the bearing, you'll see a little clip that goes around the bearing with a small gap at the ends. Basically take the hook and dig out one of the ends and gently pull it out. Then stick the hook into the gap of the shield and pull it off. I've found white gunky stuff caked on the shields and cages (Abu Garcia bearings). I can't say that I think it will perform any better than just soaking, but I feel better about it. It's not something you should have to do every time you clean them. I pulled these pics off google. Thanks TiNuts. My eyes weren't good enough to notice those. I just finished clean out of two more reels. I'll try this on the next one (which is soon). BTW, one of the reel I cleaned out was 70's Shimano BM-1 (Japanese market version of Lews' BB-1). I was surprised to see the bearing used looked the same as the bearing used today on Shimano's. One thing I noticed was the clip to hold the bearing in place was something looked like what they might use in automobile, not the octagon looking ones I find in today's reels. Like this->http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6hfTiiK9paM/Trxlx7jn2iI/AAAAAAAADI4/d4AP9b1JSOQ/s1600/wheel+7.jpg Quote
Super User Felix77 Posted June 23, 2014 Super User Posted June 23, 2014 I just screwed up a spool trying to do this without a specialized tool. Needless to say I am out a reel until the replacement spool comes in. I also just purchased that Hedgehog pin removal tool so I don't screw up another one. The pin is all jacked up. Learn from my mistake and either leave it alone and work around it OR get a tool which does the job nicely. Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted June 23, 2014 Super User Posted June 23, 2014 Even after purchasing "the tool", knowing which end to push and which end to pull can be a trick. oe Quote
Maico1 Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Do it right get a tool.......http://www.hedgehog-studio.co.jp/product-list/2 Quote
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