Rudy1922 Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 I've been using a Baitcaster (Chronarch E6) with 30lb braid on a 7' 4" Heavy Fast action rod for about 2 weeks. I use 2 brakes and have the spool tension just short of having any side to side movement. I can cast a 3/8 oz. jig with a trailer (total weight 5/8 oz) between 30 - 35 yrds. I'm disappointed about that but I'll keep practicing. Anyway, I want to move away from Spinning reels and get a Baitcaster for Carolina Rigs but I'm afraid I'll lose distance. So how far do you guys throw Carolina Rigs using Baitcasters? I plan on using a Chronarch E7 with 30lb braid and a 7'4" rod. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted October 27, 2013 Super User Posted October 27, 2013 Sounds like the rod might not be loading up properly. Basically too stiff or not tippy enough. 5/8ths should be plenty of weight but you never know. Do you have a med/hvy rod? Swap reels and throw the same lure and see if that helps your distance. Also you could flush and re oil your bearings. That's never going to hurt anything. As for your C-rig question. It all depends on what weight you're using. I use any where from 1/4-3/4 depending on water depth. Typically it's in the 3/8-1/2oz range. Quote
motodmast Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 it all depends on your rod. i was using a 7'4 H dobyns champ extreme, and i couldnt get a c-rig to cast very far, the rod just didnt have enough tip, i switched my c-rig to a Mh with a little more tip, and it noticeably casted further Quote
Rudy1922 Posted October 28, 2013 Author Posted October 28, 2013 it all depends on your rod. i was using a 7'4 H dobyns champ extreme, and i couldnt get a c-rig to cast very far, the rod just didnt have enough tip, i switched my c-rig to a Mh with a little more tip, and it noticeably casted further That's the rod (DX744c) I've been using for Jigs. I've been trying not to load and whip the rod like I do with my spinning rods because of backlashes. So should I load the rod and use more breaks to avoid backlashes? Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 The hardest thing about casting c-rigs is the long leader. Concentrate on casting the weight and not the bait. 35 yards is not a bad cast. There's not a lot of advantage to much longer casts unless maybe you're shore bound or throwing deep cranks. Quote
Rudy1922 Posted October 28, 2013 Author Posted October 28, 2013 The hardest thing about casting c-rigs is the long leader. Concentrate on casting the weight and not the bait. 35 yards is not a bad cast. There's not a lot of advantage to much longer casts unless maybe you're shore bound or throwing deep cranks. No boat so I bank fish. I'll work on educating my thumb and loading the rod more. The reel is stock and from what I've read new reels come over lubed. Is that right? Quote
Loop_Dad Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 When I throw c-rig for distance, I think how I load the rod is different from when I am throwing other baits (I think). Back swing is slower (I think). The line out from the tip actually helps loading (I think). Depending on the weight and the length of the leader, the optimum length of line that you want to have out is different. Something you need to experiment. The cast is a bit more smooth motion than other baits too. You might want to also experiment with the position of your thumb. For me touching the left edge of the spool gives me the best control. And flushing out the grease and put a drop of oil helped for me. Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted October 28, 2013 Super User Posted October 28, 2013 A few things to considerer for better c-rig distance... 1. Longer rod 2. A c-rig specific rod (IE. Loomis 873 CRR) 3. A heavier weight 4. A more aerodynamic soft plastic bait if you can get away with it. 5. Shorter leader legnth The above may also hinder your effectiveness of using the presentation but distance should be better. Quote
Super User Sam Posted October 28, 2013 Super User Posted October 28, 2013 Baitcasters + Heavy Rods = Good Carolina Rig Fishing. Don't be too concerned with our distance. Be concerned with the hook setting power our rod can produce when setting the hook. I have never worried about distance with a Carolina rig. I am always concerned with feeling the strikes and then setting the hook. Quote
Arv Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 I "wind up" more. Its not as much of a quick whip like most other lures I throw. I don't know if that makes any sense... Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted October 28, 2013 Super User Posted October 28, 2013 No boat so I bank fish. I'll work on educating my thumb and loading the rod more. The reel is stock and from what I've read new reels come over lubed. Is that right? The consensus seems to be that the majority of reels come from the factory over lubed to compensate for those of us that don't like taking them apart for cleaning. I do like to send mine to DVT for cleaning, tho. Maximum distance is going to require loading the rod on the back swing. I have never fished a C-rig, so I can't make any suggestions for improving your distance with that rig. Other than agreeing with others that a longer rod should yield more distance. However, for general casting I can agree that having a little more line hanging from the tip does seem to help (12-18 instead of 4-6). Almost all my casts are now underhand (roll?) casts. This eliminates the stop before reversing the stroke. Helps me a lot to avoid those backlashes at the beginning of a cast. Doesn't seem to hurt distance. Matter of fact, I feel it allows me to have a more powerful forward cast. EDIT: I'd like to add that casting with 2 hands is a big help for me. Something I do 99.999% of the time. Quote
Rudy1922 Posted October 29, 2013 Author Posted October 29, 2013 Thanks everybody for the help. I'm going to flush the bearings and see if that helps. I'm also going to look into underhand casting. Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted October 29, 2013 Super User Posted October 29, 2013 I don't throw a carolina rig very much. That being said, there are some times when the Carolina rig presentation is the ticket and I found I got bit more when I used a 7' MH spinning rod and 20 lb Firelline rather than a bait casting set up. Can't explain why, I just do. I can set the hook at the middle of a fairly long cast with reasonable expectations of sticking the fish. Quote
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