Super User rippin-lips Posted October 25, 2013 Super User Posted October 25, 2013 Just wondering if any other members are proud owners of these wonderful dogs. I have a 5yr old female blue named Abby. 2 Quote
Super User Sam Posted October 25, 2013 Super User Posted October 25, 2013 That is a cute dog. Great pictures. No, I don't have one. Quote
KritterGitter Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Got a red,Hogg, a boxer pitt mix,Lexie, then of course the black sheep a lab/shep mix.... Ive grown up with pittes and own two now, best dog anyone could ask for... 1 Quote
KritterGitter Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Good lookin pup ya got there though!! Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted October 25, 2013 Author Super User Posted October 25, 2013 That is a cute dog. Great pictures. No, I don't have one. Thank you. Got a red,Hogg, a boxer pitt mix,Lexie, then of course the black sheep a lab/shep mix.... Ive grown up with pittes and own two now, best dog anyone could ask for... Yeah I had friends who had them when I was a kid. I rescued a boxer pit mix and he was great. They truly are great dogs. Very misunderstood due to idiots who own them. Quote
KritterGitter Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Indeed, def a misunderstood breed, sadly..Rescues seem to be the best though, my rents bought one from a breeder and he turned out to be an idiot, great family/person dog just dumb as rocks lol.... All three of mine were rescues, Hogg by far is a model pittie though, My wife is a special ed teacher and she takes him into the kids so they can read to him to get more comfortable and try to work through their disabilities, its worked out great so far... On top of everything else and being great dogs you have their personalities, hahaha, truly unique without a doubt. If you own one ya know what I mean! Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted October 25, 2013 Super User Posted October 25, 2013 Beautiful dog. Â Growing up, we had a blue pit, when he passed we got a brindle pit. Â We got both of them when they were puppies and we never had a second of trouble. Â They were great dogs, great around kids and strangers. Â Both dogs were loved family members. Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted October 26, 2013 Super User Posted October 26, 2013 Never owned an APBT. All mine were AmStaffs. They were true ambassadors for their breed. With the exception of one. She was the most dog aggressive nut case I have ever owned. She was lovely and sweet with people. She just did NOT like any other dog. We got her when I was in school she was a few years old and had amazing bloodlines in her. Absolutely gorgeous dog. After she killed the neighbors dog I had to get rid of her. Once we get out of this apartment and get a house I'm gonna get two more. Use em as catch dogs for pig hunting. Quote
EvanT123 Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 Never owned an APBT. All mine were AmStaffs. They were true ambassadors for their breed. With the exception of one. She was the most dog aggressive nut case I have ever owned. She was lovely and sweet with people. She just did NOT like any other dog. We got her when I was in school she was a few years old and had amazing bloodlines in her. Absolutely gorgeous dog. After she killed the neighbors dog I had to get rid of her. g. Sounds like you had a pit bull that did what it was bred for. 1 Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted October 26, 2013 Super User Posted October 26, 2013 Sounds like you had a pit bull that did what it was bred for. Yup. Neighbors dog came in the yard when she was out back. It startes barking and growling at her. She wasn't having it and locked and shook. Had to pry her jaws off that dang dog with a shovel handle. It was not a good day for me. Quote
EvanT123 Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 Stuff happens. I'm not a "pit bull" owner. Saying that: a pit bull is one if the best dogs to own. It's really important for an owner to know their dog whatever breed it is. People shouldn't forget whatever breed you own it was originally bred for a job and sometimes you get one that is still all about that job. 1 Quote
EvanT123 Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 Didn't mean to hijack the thread rippin. I love bullies. Common guys post them up! 2 Quote
Super User slonezp Posted October 26, 2013 Super User Posted October 26, 2013 Never owned an APBT. All mine were AmStaffs. They were true ambassadors for their breed. With the exception of one. She was the most dog aggressive nut case I have ever owned. She was lovely and sweet with people. She just did NOT like any other dog. We got her when I was in school she was a few years old and had amazing bloodlines in her. Absolutely gorgeous dog. After she killed the neighbors dog I had to get rid of her. Once we get out of this apartment and get a house I'm gonna get two more. Use em as catch dogs for pig hunting. I had a male golden retriever with champion bloodlines similar in temperament. It never killed another dog but aggressively went after every dog it came in contact with. Stupid dog attacked a large buck one day we were walking in the woods. Thankfully I was able to scare the buck away. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted October 26, 2013 Super User Posted October 26, 2013 Beautiful dog.  Never owned one but i wouldn't hesitate to get one.  I had an english bulldog that was super aggressive towards people, turned out it had a thyroid condition.  The vet who we took him too specialized in the breed and said he could count on one hand the number bullies with no health issues and those who were aggressive and we lucked out and had both in one dog  The turning point for us was when he went after my now ex wife....guess he was abetter judge of character than I was at the time..... Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted October 26, 2013 Author Super User Posted October 26, 2013 Sounds like you had a pit bull that did what it was bred for.I'm not going to start a debate about this but that was never their intended purpose or what they were bred to do. It was something that just came along later.The dog was bred first to bait bulls and bears. In America, farmers and ranchers used their APBTs for protection, as catch dogs for semi-wild cattle and hogs, to hunt, and to drive livestock. The dog was used during World War I and World War II as a way of delivering messages on the battlefield. However after bull baiting was deemed inhumane they starting using them in pits against rats and that eventually lead to other dogs. So yes it is a part of their origins but that's wasn't the intended purpose in the beginning. Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted October 26, 2013 Super User Posted October 26, 2013 I'm not going to start a debate about this but that was never their intended purpose or what they were bred to do. It was something that just came along later. The dog was bred first to bait bulls and bears. In America, farmers and ranchers used their APBTs for protection, as catch dogs for semi-wild cattle and hogs, to hunt, and to drive livestock. The dog was used during World War I and World War II as a way of delivering messages on the battlefield. However after bull baiting was deemed inhumane they starting using them in pits against rats and that eventually lead to other dogs. So yes it is a part of their origins but that's wasn't the intended purpose in the beginning. They were also bred to be nanny dogs. If you and the missus were going to the neighbors or some friends house. This was way back when. You would leave the older and younger children at home with the dog. Or if yall were going into town. The dog would insure nothing bad happened to the children. That provides some proof as to them not being bred to be people aggressive. Quote
Super User MCS Posted October 26, 2013 Super User Posted October 26, 2013 Stuff happens. I'm not a "pit bull" owner. Saying that: a pit bull is one if the best dogs to own. It's really important for an owner to know their dog whatever breed it is. People shouldn't forget whatever breed you own it was originally bred for a job and sometimes you get one that is still all about that job. Amen brother, if more people only thought like you(us) lol U got a beautiful ambull..,I had a J-type that was NKC top half was heavy MGK Brahma the Bull and Hines and bottom was a lot of Johnson and Something Specil Kennels dogs...fat boy slim. He was only male for sale and must been the runt the others stated in GA and I only saw a female pup and mine he turned out smaller, 90 pounds. I gave him to a friend when I sold my house. I have a mutt from the pound she is a good dog, with the temperament of a true bulldog(apbt) I love apbts that maintain the essence of the true game dog and stick with folks and bloodlines that lean that way. Quote
Super User MCS Posted October 26, 2013 Super User Posted October 26, 2013 I'm not going to start a debate about this but that was never their intended purpose or what they were bred to do. It was something that just came along later. The dog was bred first to bait bulls and bears. In America, farmers and ranchers used their APBTs for protection, as catch dogs for semi-wild cattle and hogs, to hunt, and to drive livestock. The dog was used during World War I and World War II as a way of delivering messages on the battlefield. However after bull baiting was deemed inhumane they starting using them in pits against rats and that eventually lead to other dogs. So yes it is a part of their origins but that's wasn't the intended purpose in the beginning. Not quite, the American Pitbull Terrier was always about dog vs dog....since the 1890s Colby's been running them the longest. The bullbaiting ended in England long before, apbts are descendants of Staffordshires which look nothing like the KC dogs today, but think Joe Mallen and Gentleman Jim. The dogs used here as plantation dogs were American Bulldogs....there is a debate on what they leaned towards the mastiff traits(Johnson am bulls) or the slimmer type with a longer muzzle (Scott's type) the some prefer them with even more terrier type traits and they are Old Southern Whites. Not trying start a debate but highlight the vast uniqueness of the bully breeds that came to and were born here in the United States. Quote
Super User MCS Posted October 26, 2013 Super User Posted October 26, 2013 A good book anyone interested in reading is "the American pitbull terrier" by Richard Stratton. He actually did 2 books on the bred I am talking about the second one with the OFRN on the cover. It is a great book that explains history, traits, sporting history etc. about the breed. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted October 26, 2013 Author Super User Posted October 26, 2013 The American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) is a medium-sized, solidly built, short haired dog whose early ancestors came from England and Ireland. It is a member of the molosser breed group. The American Staffordshire Terrier and The American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) by breed are from the same lineage; Staffordshires was the name given by AKC, and American Pit Bull Terriers by UKC. The real difference between the two breeds is 6–8" in height and 25–35 lb in weight. The American Staffordshire being the larger of the two. The dog was bred first to bait bulls and bears. When bear-baiting and bull-baiting were deemed inhumane, rat-baiting and dog fighting became more popular. The APBT Breed was used in both sports, and its prevalence in being put in pits with rats, or other dogs led to "pit" being added to its name. Quote
Super User MCS Posted October 26, 2013 Super User Posted October 26, 2013 Apbts by the UKC? U crazy bro...try ADBA Ukc are crap bred American Bullies... And the real difference in the breeds are apbts are bred to work and am staffs were bred for show. Bullies were some abomination created by fools who thought bigger was better I was trying to be a little nice with u but you really need to do some research dunno what your reading. Some pitbull n parole blog lol You would seriously benefit from reading strattons or Colby's book. The misinformation you and other pittie lovers put out is what irks me. But to answer your original question Yes there are other apbt fanciers around the board. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted October 26, 2013 Author Super User Posted October 26, 2013 You are aware that the UKC was started 11yrs before the ADBA? Some of your info is correct but you have some things mixed up too. I'll agree to disagree.Here's a good read that might help people with the differences.http://www.apbtconformation.com/standardcomparison.htm Quote
Super User MCS Posted October 26, 2013 Super User Posted October 26, 2013 It is great u owned a breed that has nothing to do with the conversation. It is also great u know breeders that breed and sell show dogs. Of course the know what's up and they wouldn't turn any truth into a statement in their favor. Personally I get my info from apbt breeders that run true apbts from adba. I gave some good books and info checkout Stratton. People can research and form their own opinions and I hope they do. Because I am not going to change your mind but educate people that don't know much about the bred. So they won't follow your comments as the truth. ADBA has kept the original standard. AKC will register anything. They just pulled the papers on all the razoredge, natourious Juan gotti bully dogs because there was finally a big enough backlash. Very reputable kennel club there. And you really scare me with the getting suspended comment. Look dude I will argue until I am blue in the face and not worried. I don't need to cuss or threaten to prove a point. It is about the info at hand u feel the way you do(Lol) and I feel mine. No reason to puff up your chest and act hard. Remember this is the Internet take everything with a grain of salt. Quote
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