CTGalloway21 Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 I started fishing Ambassaduer conventional reels. Now I am all low profile Revo reels. I need to add a new reel and was thinking about getting an Ambassadeur again. I feel like it might be awkward since I am all low profile now. Anybody use both effectively? How does the performance of the Ambassaduers compare now to that of the Revos? Quote
JeziHogg Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 The new Revo's IMO and a lot of peoples on the boards have gone down hill from their counterparts. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted October 24, 2013 Super User Posted October 24, 2013 The new Revo's IMO and a lot of peoples on the boards have gone down hill from their counterparts. I really would disagree since most reviews are favorable on most websites for them. 1 Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted October 24, 2013 Super User Posted October 24, 2013 I really would disagree since most reviews are favorable on most websites for them. How do you come to that? Look at each site that has reviews on it. The same issues are popping up all over. Guys with time under their belt with them are having the same issues too. I'm not saying every new gen Revo owner has had issues, but a lot have. More than what a normal person would consider a couple of bad apples. 1 Quote
CTGalloway21 Posted October 24, 2013 Author Posted October 24, 2013 Look guys, I am not talking about quality. I love Abu Garcia and never had a problem. I am asking how it is throwing in a round conventional reel into a lineup of low profile reels. Abu's quality is awesome. Shimano fanboys can leave this thread. Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted October 24, 2013 Super User Posted October 24, 2013 Im not a fan boy. I was asking dodgeguy a question. To answer your question, I couldn't get used to it after switching years ago. Unless it's smaller profile than say the 5000 series, it was too big. A lot is going to depend on your hand size. Quote
MacP Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 The new Abus aren't made the same. I'm not sure their even all made in Sweden anymore. To the original question, they are still baitcasters. They will cast the same just not feel the same. I don't know why you'd use a round BC unless you were throwing really heavy baits routinely. Quote
tholmes Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 The C3s , C4s, Record and Morrum reels are still made in Sweden. IMHO, they're some of the best reels out there as far as reliability and durability. As for adapting to a round reel vs. a low-profile, only you can determine that. Personally, I find the round reels easier on my hands than a low-profile design, and the older I get, the more I feel that way. Bottom line - you'll have to determine which is better for YOU. Tom Quote
MacP Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 The C3s , C4s, Record and Morrum reels are still made in Sweden. IMHO, they're some of the best reels out there as far as reliability and durability. As for adapting to a round reel vs. a low-profile, only you can determine that. Personally, I find the round reels easier on my hands than a low-profile design, and the older I get, the more I feel that way. Bottom line - you'll have to determine which is better for YOU. Tom Good to know! Do you know when they quit making everything there? Quote
Bill B. Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 I'm almost 60 and am beginning to have some issues with my hands. That said, I use both round and low-profile reels and have no trouble making the transition. Quote
LMB ANGLER Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 abu garcias are on my top 5 best brands, they make better quality reel than other company's. they also have 22+ pounds of drag. it is rare to find freshwater baitcaster with that kind of power. Quote
JeziHogg Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 abu garcias are on my top 5 best brands, they make better quality reel than other company's. they also have 22+ pounds of drag. it is rare to find freshwater baitcaster with that kind of power. That being sad, 22+ pounds is overkill by ALOT even for punching. I've tightened the drag down on my G3 Winch STX and Premier and I can pull the line out just like I would pull the line out on 10lb drag on my Cores and 8lbs on my Aldebaran BFS. Quote
Robert Oakden Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 Its not hard to switch between the two. I use my kingfisher every now and then. For what it's worth I love my stx's, never had a problem and handle saltwater and sand like a champ too:) Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 Going back and forth between low profile and 4600 size reels is no problem as far as I'm concerned but it really is personal preference. Some guys don't even use different models from the same brand because continuity is a priority for them. BTW Robert Oakden, I see Sacandaga and Galway in your profile. I'm right down the road a piece. Quote
Super User .RM. Posted October 25, 2013 Super User Posted October 25, 2013 The C3s , C4s, Record and Morrum reels are still made in Sweden. IMHO, they're some of the best reels out there as far as reliability and durability. As for adapting to a round reel vs. a low-profile, only you can determine that. Personally, I find the round reels easier on my hands than a low-profile design, and the older I get, the more I feel that way. Bottom line - you'll have to determine which is better for YOU. Tom X2... Ops I meant Ditto..... MacP: Good to know! Do you know when they quit making everything there? Just as soon as they wound up under the Pure Fishing umbrella.... If the reel doesn't carry the emblem it isn't made in Sweden, Just the upper end rounds (C series and up) still carry the emblem. Most of the lawer end rounds carry a BCX designator they are the junk form asia..... Quote
Robert Oakden Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Going back and forth between low profile and 4600 size reels is no problem as far as I'm concerned but it really is personal preference. Some guys don't even use different models from the same brand because continuity is a priority for them. BTW Robert Oakden, I see Sacandaga and Galway in your profile. I'm right down the road a piece. where are you located? Quote
BassCats Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 I have gone from all low profile to incorporating more round reels into my mix. I love the round reels for pitching and for working a jig in deep water. Low profiles are better for reaction baits in my opinion. I hold my rods in front of the reel on the rod where foregrips used to be. If throwing a reaction bait I palm the reel. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted October 25, 2013 Super User Posted October 25, 2013 I have a Morrum 1601 and 1600 plus 3 Black Max 1600 reels...although only one of the Black Max reels is currently on a rod (need more rods. ) . Sometimes it takes a cast or two to get in the groove when switching. Probably because the round reels are relatively new additions. I don't have a problem palming this size round reel. The Black Max often gets used to throw crankbaits because of its gear ratio. I have to say that the round reels seem to be less apt to overrun for me. However, I can overrun or backlash any reel if I try hard enough. Quote
Super User retiredbosn Posted October 25, 2013 Super User Posted October 25, 2013 At one time all I fished with were round reels, then I had a few lp ones, now all but 1 is lp. I never had any difficulty switching back and forth. All of my round reels were abu, most were the EXT Pro, awesome reel, also had a recessed foot which let it set lower in the reel seat. As far as when Abu started making reels in Korea (the last time I bothered to look), all lp reels are made there, the BCX line is as well, the C3 and up are still made in Sweden, not sure about the new Morrum Quote
LMB ANGLER Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 I really would disagree since most reviews are favorable on most websites for them. I prefer abu garcia over shimano any day 1 Quote
LMB ANGLER Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 That being sad, 22+ pounds is overkill by ALOT even for punching. I've tightened the drag down on my G3 Winch STX and Premier and I can pull the line out just like I would pull the line out on 10lb drag on my Cores and 8lbs on my Aldebaran BFS. here in the south or California and texas where bass get 15+, if you go flippin heavy cover with a reel that has 10 pound max drag, you in a whole lot of trouble. just sayin Quote
Smallmouth Hunter Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 here in the south or California and texas where bass get 15+, if you go flippin heavy cover with a reel that has 10 pound max drag, you in a whole lot of trouble. just sayin Abu reels do NOT get the 20+ lbs of drag that they claim. TT did a review on a few Revo's, and the max drag they got was around 13. The least I think was 10. Pretty pathetic if you ask me since they claim 20+ lbs. Most reels get 1-2 pounds less drag then they are advertised to get (on box and whatnot). Quote
Super User retiredbosn Posted October 26, 2013 Super User Posted October 26, 2013 Abu reels do NOT get the 20+ lbs of drag that they claim. TT did a review on a few Revo's, and the max drag they got was around 13. The least I think was 10. Pretty pathetic if you ask me since they claim 20+ lbs. . This is very misleading. TT has reviewed many Revo's, from every generation. The STX Gen 2 achieved 24 lbs of drag, the only times a Revo did not achieve the stated drag was the 3rd Gen SX &STX. Given the consistency in performance with the Abu Garcia drag system I would be more likely to see this as an anomaly rather than the norm. Quote
LMB ANGLER Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 Abu reels do NOT get the 20+ lbs of drag that they claim. TT did a review on a few Revo's, and the max drag they got was around 13. The least I think was 10. Pretty pathetic if you ask me since they claim 20+ lbs. Most reels get 1-2 pounds less drag then they are advertised to get (on box and whatnot). really? i never knew that. im going to check that out because that's not cool. im gonna need to buy a saltwater baitcaster the 300 series then. Quote
JeziHogg Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 really? i never knew that. im going to check that out because that's not cool. im gonna need to buy a saltwater baitcaster the 300 series then. You know you can just use your thumb on the spool to increase drag right? SMART THUMBS aren't just for casting. 1 Quote
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