Total Animals Raid Walmart

[Brian Needham]

http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/23679489/walmart-shelves-in-springhill-mansfield-cleared-in-ebt-glitch

 

 

what have we come to as a people?

 

hey look, no limits, lets call EVERYONE we know and load up!

 

glad I get to go to work in the morning and pay for it.

[jbsoonerfan]

Would you expect anything less from a bunch of people looking for handouts in the first place?

I realize some people NEED these benefits, but I'm guessing those who did this were the same ones who are too lazy to get a job.

[Brian Needham]

but they made sure to use that free phone to tell all their friends........just makes me sick.

 

and here I was not trying to spike my blood pressure before bed.

[preach4bass]

Entitlement run amuck. 

[Long Mike]

Deadbeats will be deadbeats.  Always looking for something they don't have to work for, but returning nothing, such as a day's labor for a day's pay.  It sickens me to see what our country has come to.

[jeb2]

Deadbeats will be deadbeats.  Always looking for something they don't have to work for, but returning nothing, such as a day's labor for a day's pay.  It sickens me to see what our country has come to.

Totally agree. Our once proud nation has become a socialist paradise. I guess that's what happens when we have leaders that say things like "we're not exceptional".

[Bankbeater]

I have heard about stuff like this happening before.  It makes me sick to think about it.

[Grizzn N Bassin]

wow

[RAMBLER]

Entitlement run amuck. 

Unfortunately a lot of people consider it an entitlement but no one is entitled to "free".  It's someone else's buck they are shopping on.  It is just pure greed.  I wonder how much of that food was just wasted while someone else who was honest enough to not steal went hungry.

 

I can't even think of the words to describe how sick our nation has gotten. 

[Fishing Rhino]

Walmart did a stupid thing.  They should not have allowed unlimited purchases when they knew there was a problem on the EBT system, that resulted in limitless spending.

 

If they were only concerned about folks going hungry, a fifty dollar limit would have fed them for a couple of days.  That would have been more than ample time to get the system up and running properly.  They got the "glitch" corrected the same day.

 

I don't know what they were thinking.  Did Walmart hope to get business of customers who usually patronize other stores?  Did they hope for a bonanza that the government would pay for?  I find it hard to believe they were merely being altruistic and did not consider the consequences of their action. 

 

Will the government go after those who made hundreds of dollars in purchases when they knew they did not have the money in their accounts (ebt cards)?  Will they tell Walmart that they acted irresponsibly and negligently by permitting such large purchase, and leave Walmart dangling in the wind?

[Brian Needham]

I dont know a good solution to this incendent to recoup the money.

 

It sounded like Wal Mart could turn the card numbers over to the gubbment and they could trace them and take action against the card holders. Wal Mart might indeed do that, but I doubt very seriously the feds do anything to the card holders.

 

Wal Mart was in a tough spot, they couldnt stop this. they couldnt tell those people they couldnt purchase the items..... if they did there would have been a full scale riot and the chance of that wal mart being burned to ground would have been real.

 

I found it sickening, that the report said "this was a natural human reaction" . NO IT WASN'T!!!! It was a total, animal response. Total disrespect, and completly stealing! Of course I do not expect anything else from people who have no idea what money really is and where it comes from.

 

Sure, Wal Mart can take the hit, but why should they? How much business will that store lose over the next week until the store is back stocked? Do they put all that meat back on the shelves from the cart? How much of it will spoil before they could get it back on the shelves?

 

I really hate people...... it is getting harder and harder to find TRUE people today.

[Nice_Bass]

Totally agree. Our once proud nation has become a socialist paradise. I guess that's what happens when we have leaders that say things like "we're not exceptional".

 

Let us not forget our past when thinking so lowly of our current status.  We are not guilt free in yesteryears as a nation...

 

 

as far as the story goes- they fraud systems were still up and running and individual states should pick up the overcharges.  If the people wont pay after getting the letters in the mail It should come from state tax return money until the debt is paid most of the time.

 

Unfortunately, this is just a drip in the bucket to the oversight needed.

[preach4bass]

Here's a simple solution that will not be used by our "pander to the voter" politicians: Find out who made the excess purchases, and deduct whatever extra they used from their future monthly "checks".  Again, this will never happen because it is common sense, and that stuff just ain't too common anymore.

[Brian Needham]

as the facts come out: 

 

the cards were not reading "unlimited funds", the cards were not reading at all.

 

so the story is being somewhat misreported as a "glitch". the EBT system was down over several states. meaning the EBT cards didnt work at all.

 

the manager at this walmart instead of telling customers to wait until the EBT system is back online, the manager decided to ring the stuff up and take care of it later. I assume they took card imprints like to good ole days/ how they do it when the power is out. Either way it was a bad choice. That however does not make it right for the animals to come in and ravage the store and steal.

 

Taking care of it later resulted in people getting $100s and $100s worth of groceries with literally  pennies on their EBT card. Blatant fraud/stealing.

 

In the business world I am sure that manager is probably standing in the welfare line with the customers this morning............. BUT dont think for one second where the blame lies, the STEALING CUSTOMERS.

 

those customers knew without doubt what they were doing, and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law and lose any and all benifits until the money is paid back.

 

Its a bad deal all the way around and the only people that are going to lose is the taxpayer/average consumer.

[Grizzn N Bassin]

^^^ Exactly

[J Francho]

It's taking advantage of the system, for sure, but to call them "animals," is a little over the top, and frankly a little offensive.  I've been on public assistance, for a short time, and store employees are often degrading and disrespectful - right up to management.  I'm not justifying the behavior in the article, just making a point to be careful who your audience is when you use hyperbole.

 

If you actually took the time to read the article, you'd see a quote from Springhill Police Chief, Will Lynd:

 

 

Lynd says contrary to rumors, nobody was unruly or arrested and they were mainly there to help prevent shoplifting and theft.

 

Animals indeed.

 

From what I can tell, this is a Walmart issue. The enacted a policy that pretty much told their EBT carrying customers they could take what they wanted.... Put yourself in their shoes.  You telling me at least someone (not necessarily you yourself) wouldn't take advantage of the situation?

[deaknh03]

as the facts come out: 

 

the cards were not reading "unlimited funds", the cards were not reading at all.

 

so the story is being somewhat misreported as a "glitch". the EBT system was down over several states. meaning the EBT cards didnt work at all.

 

the manager at this walmart instead of telling customers to wait until the EBT system is back online, the manager decided to ring the stuff up and take care of it later. I assume they took card imprints like to good ole days/ how they do it when the power is out. Either way it was a bad choice. That however does not make it right for the animals to come in and ravage the store and steal.

 

Taking care of it later resulted in people getting $100s and $100s worth of groceries with literally  pennies on their EBT card. Blatant fraud/stealing.

 

In the business world I am sure that manager is probably standing in the welfare line with the customers this morning............. BUT dont think for one second where the blame lies, the STEALING CUSTOMERS.

 

those customers knew without doubt what they were doing, and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law and lose any and all benifits until the money is paid back.

 

Its a bad deal all the way around and the only people that are going to lose is the taxpayer/average consumer.

The decision to accept the cards was not made by the store manager, it was approved by corporate Wal Mart. His job is safe, I'm sure.

[Brian Needham]

The decision to accept the cards was not made by the store manager, it was approved by corporate Wal Mart. His job is safe, I'm sure.

I know otherwise, for fact, not hearsay.

[deaknh03]

I know otherwise, for fact, not hearsay.

about the accepting of the cards or his job? A spokesman for corporate said they made the decision, it was in the article, his job on the other hand...

[Brian Needham]

JFranco-

 

I like you and I don't want to be offensive to you or anyone else.

 

I know too many people that work at Wal-Mart in my tri state area, many at stores that were affected by the "glitch". So I will stand by my animal comment.

 

Animals act like this......... one person got away with it and called in the herd for the slaughter, when the gig was up they left their full buggies laying like carcasses and scattered like roaches in the light.

 

I don't want to get warning points or much worse, banned.........so maybe we should just lock it up, cause I ain't so sure I cant continue to call it what it is.

[Nice_Bass]

Here's a simple solution that will not be used by our "pander to the voter" politicians: Find out who made the excess purchases, and deduct whatever extra they used from their future monthly "checks".  Again, this will never happen because it is common sense, and that stuff just ain't too common anymore.

no- that would not be common sense.  That would be taking away assistance to those who may need it- dependents. 

They will recoup through future state income tax returns not by taking food off the table.

[Brian Needham]

 That would be taking away assistance to those who may need it- dependents. 

 

 

so the woman that walked out with $700+ of pork and other meats, even though she had 49 cents on her card was correct in doing so? she "needed" it right?

 

IMO, with $700+ worth, I think she is good for a few months.

[Nice_Bass]

so the woman that walked out with $700+ of pork and other meats, even though she had 49 cents on her card was correct in doing so? she "needed" it right?

IMO, with $700+ worth, I think she is good for a few months.

Not what I said. Taking future assistance to recoup funds for this would take away fr om possible dependents.

Pork or not...

[Brian Needham]

Not what I said. Taking future assistance to recoup funds for this would take away fr om possible dependents.

Pork or not...

 

that person has already spent their future assistance by their stealing spree.

 

this event happened Sunday I believe. Funds are deposited the 4th and 14th. Sunday was the 13th... so for them to have so little on their card, they spent this months already and/or were outright stealing $700+ so next months is already spent.......simple math really.

 

Hell, I don't know if I spend $700 on month on food and I eat out multiple times everyday!

 

NOBODY should have to recoup/pay for this except the people who STOLE the food/items/products.

[K_Mac]

J Franco you are a man of courage and conviction. I salute you my friend. 

 

As for characterizing poor folks taking advantage of a broken system as animals I completely agree with John. It is way over the top. Yes they were stealing. Yes there should be consequences. And yes it is very easy to get all self-righteous over something like this and completely ignore the corruption all around us.