MacP Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 So, I went to my local bait shop today and he was unloading these. I'd seen them before on youtube Thought they looked pretty good. So, I picked one up. I'm gonna pair it with Super Fluke Jr.s and a 1/0 EWG hook. I suppose you could put them on a swimbait head, but I don't like exposed hooks that much. I'll try them on some cranks too. Perfect timing too. I'd been seeing fish hit and couldn't get anything to bite under the schooling shad. I'll try this out maybe it'll work. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 10, 2013 Super User Posted October 10, 2013 Personally, I don't like ANY of these rigs with a weedless hook. I use the Buckeye J-Will jig head, and it requires no hookset, just let the rod load and hang on. Quote
MacP Posted October 10, 2013 Author Posted October 10, 2013 yeah, I've been using big hammer heads with my other rigs lots, they get hung on stuff ALL the time. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 10, 2013 Super User Posted October 10, 2013 Wrong tool for the job if you're getting hung up. Quote
MacP Posted October 10, 2013 Author Posted October 10, 2013 Can't help it if shad gather in the shallows! Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 10, 2013 Super User Posted October 10, 2013 I'd just throw a fluke or a spinnerbait. Umbrella rigs work better in deeper, open water. 2 Quote
BassAddict1911 Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 I'd just throw a fluke or a spinnerbait. Umbrella rigs work better in deeper, open water. i beg to differ ... finnesse umbrella rigs work just fine in shallow water. went out this weekend and caught a 6, two 4's and numerous threes and twos an a little three wire umbrella rig my buddy invented. Right now, these umbrella rigs are my go to in shallow water ... because the bass are pushing shad UP, now down into the "deeper, open water". Quote
Bass Junkie Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 i beg to differ ... finnesse umbrella rigs work just fine in shallow water. went out this weekend and caught a 6, two 4's and numerous threes and twos an a little three wire umbrella rig my buddy invented. Right now, these umbrella rigs are my go to in shallow water ... because the bass are pushing shad UP, now down into the "deeper, open water". Therein lies the difference. J Francho was referring to the traditional rig. You are speaking of a niche item Quote
BassAddict1911 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Therein lies the difference. J Francho was referring to the traditional rig. You are speaking of a niche item thanks for your concern, but he actually was referring to a finesse rig, if you'll look at the very first post. That is definately not a traditional rig. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 11, 2013 Super User Posted October 11, 2013 I use a Picasso School-E Rig a Flash Mob Jr. for "finesse" situations. None are thrown in anything less than about 6-7' of open water. For what the OP is trying to accomplish, a donkey rig fluke would be a better choice. Quote
Bass_Fanatic Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 I use a Picasso School-E Rig a Flash Mob Jr. for "finesse" situations. None are thrown in anything less than about 6-7' of open water. For what the OP is trying to accomplish, a donkey rig fluke would be a better choice. No way...a finesse arig will out fish anything in flooded willows 90% of the time. When the shad are balled up shallow, a finesse arig is much better than a fluke, spinnerbaits, or donkey rig. 1 Quote
BassAddict1911 Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 No way...a finesse arig will out fish anything in flooded willows 90% of the time. When the shad are balled up shallow, a finesse arig is much better than a fluke, spinnerbaits, or donkey rig. 100 % agree Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 15, 2013 Super User Posted October 15, 2013 Must be a little different in my northern, natural lakes. Good info guys. Quote
MacP Posted October 15, 2013 Author Posted October 15, 2013 I threw the rig a bunch this weekend. I got some bumps with a crank on but none with the fluke. They weren't biting much of anything other than drop shot again this weekend. Quote
Super User Felix77 Posted October 15, 2013 Super User Posted October 15, 2013 Looks like the Quad Zilla. I thought it would take a tiny bit of time for competitors to copy that. Silly me! Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 15, 2013 Super User Posted October 15, 2013 I threw the rig a bunch this weekend. I got some bumps with a crank on but none with the fluke. They weren't biting much of anything other than drop shot again this weekend. But two guys said there was nothing better. Guess that just proves once again, there are no absolutes in bass fishing. Quote
Bass_Fanatic Posted October 17, 2013 Posted October 17, 2013 I agree, no absolutes for sure. But if your not throwing the arig around shallow cover, you will miss out. I've had numerous days where the arig out fishes everything else 5 to 1 in shallow water. Quote
Super User CWB Posted October 19, 2013 Super User Posted October 19, 2013 Don't think MacP was fishing shallow, as the other guys were talking about especially since he said he got bites on the drop- shot. Could be wrong. Cant comment personnally on the "rig" as it's illegal in Il. What the OP has pictured looks interesting though. Definitely agree on the No Absolutes. That would make it too easy, right? Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 19, 2013 Super User Posted October 19, 2013 That is a lot of hardware being tossed into shallow water brush. If your Boo rig doesn't do it, give a pearl white hollow body frog a chance. You will miss a few strikes and stick some. Tom Quote
MacP Posted October 19, 2013 Author Posted October 19, 2013 Don't think MacP was fishing shallow, as the other guys were talking about especially since he said he got bites on the drop- shot. Could be wrong. Cant comment personnally on the "rig" as it's illegal in Il. What the OP has pictured looks interesting though. Definitely agree on the No Absolutes. That would make it too easy, right? I did fish it shallow, but the fish that were shallow weren't really biting. I tried throwing it into schooling shad. There just weren't as many schools as there were last week. Fish are still deep on my lake. I'm going to Musky waters tomorrow, so, I may or may not land some bass. I'd like to throw it more, but where I'm going tomorrow it likely would get hung up loads. I still think the rig would fish well with a fluke or any square/shallow crank. I'll just have to give it another go. Quote
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