Admiting Defeat

[Topwaterspook]

Okay, folks, I admit it fluorocarbon has beaten me. I haven't found any I really like. I guess from now on I'm only going to use it for leaders. Have any of you come to the same conclusion?

 

[00 mod]

Which ones have you tried stitch? 

 

Jeff

[iabass8]

nope. sunline sniper/seaguar tatsu. never looked back. 

[.ghoti.]

I'm with you topwaterspook. I despise the stuff. braid too.

[Nicolas Matteoli]

I'm with you topwaterspook. I despise the stuff. braid too.

Don't want to take this thread off topic, but why don't you like braid?

 

 

[tomustang]

Not much of a fan of it either.

[Dwight Hottle]

Okay, folks, I admit it fluorocarbon has beaten me. I haven't found any I really like. I guess from now on I'm only going to use it for leaders. Have any of you come to the same conclusion?

 

 

Your not admitting defeat your just showing your natural wisdom. I hate it too and have given up on it.   

[new2BC4bass]

 

Don't want to take this thread off topic, but why don't you like braid?

 

 

 

 

Now I don't feel so bad that mono is on the vast majority of my reels.  I've got fluoro on one B/C reel and braid on three.  Braid on 3 spinning reels and mono on the rest.  I have to say that I prefer braid on a baitcast reel better than on a spinning reel even tho I know braid is suppose to handle better on spinning reels than mono.

 

However, I don't hate braid.  I feel it has its uses.  My STX-L with 40# Performance probably gets use 90% of the time when I'm fishing with my bro-in-law in Florida.  Locally braid is lucky to get used 5% of the time.  Florida sees an unweighted plastic being thrown into lily pads most of the time while locally I use spinnerbaits, crankbaits and topwater most of the time.

 

EDIT: My fluoro set-up hasn't see a lot of use so I can't say positively that I don't like it, but will say I don't like what happens to the line when you have to break it when unable to retrieve a lure due to a snag.

[bigbill]

I'm slow to accept change nor try to change from my secure way that I do things. I'm still using the copolymer, yozuri, vicious and Cajun red mono. I been using the Excalibur silver thread too. I really like the Excalibur silver thread but it's not cheap. I tend to find the other brands on sale. I also use the Cajun red line on my lighter tackle and the heavier red Cajun line for my leaders on my C Rigs.

Line just isn't line anymore and any brand of line just won't do. Let's face any reel that will wind line will work and any rod with a good reel seat and eyes will function.

When it comes to the line it's our weakest link. We need to use a good quality line.

It's funny that I just wound some braid on my baitcaster setup

for hopping and swimming jigs last night. I hope I like it.

[new2BC4bass]

IIt's funny that I just wound some braid on my baitcaster setup

for hopping and swimming jigs last night. I hope I like it.

 

Roadwarrior has stated more than once that his hook-up ratio with jigs went up after switching to braid.

[DelcoSol]

I hear you. During the past year I have tried about six different flurocarbons from various price ranges. From what I gather anything under $20 price range is really bad. I was about to give it up until I just recently tried the Abrazex and really like it. The Tatsu will be the next spool.

[Topwaterspook]

Jeff, I've tried Berkeley Transition, Vanish, BPS, Vicious, and Seaguar. There have been days when it's warm and relatively windless that line conditioned flouro has worked. Mostly it's like trying to fish with a clockspring. I've not fished with a co-polymer. I have no idea how invisible it's supposed to be.

[Brian6428]

Your not admitting defeat your just showing your natural wisdom. I hate it too and have given up on it.   

What line do you use, then?

[00 mod]

Jeff, I've tried Berkeley Transition, Vanish, BPS, Vicious, and Seaguar. There have been days when it's warm and relatively windless that line conditioned flouro has worked. Mostly it's like trying to fish with a clockspring. I've not fished with a co-polymer. I have no idea how invisible it's supposed to be.

 

 

Try a good Co-poly like Yo-zuri hybrid or CXX.  Make sure to use plenty of line conditioner and you will like it much better.  Plus the price is right on the money!  Next year in Mexico, I will have plenty of 20lb Yo-zuri you can spool up all of your reels if you like it.  I bought a 3lb spool (~8700 yrds)

 

Jeff

[bigbill]

I like the yozuri hybred and the Excalibur silver thread too. The vicious feels like the Excalibur silver thread AN which seems a tad stiffer. I do wet my knots when tying them. I do get better hook sets with copolymer over using a standard mono. Copolymer has less stretch. Bill

[Catt]

Another no for fluorocarbon & copolymer, been there done that aint going back!

Berkley Big Game on all but one rod which has braid.

And no you aint gonna catch more bass than me cause I don't use fluro!

[WiregrassRiverRat]

I love invizx.. I just hate the stretch in mono.. unless I need it.. I have seen people go down a power on all their rods and go straight braid.. that maybe a bit adventurous for me.

[cddan]

Yea co polymers are not too bad ya might like them I have had alot of trouble with floro breaking on me.I gave up.Wanna try again just scared.Missed a lot of good fish to floro. But I'll try again one day.I just buy a big spool of mono and change line as often as i can or flip it.P-line co polymer was once my go to line ,gets expensive though but its tough.

[SirSnookalot]

I'm with you topwaterspook. I despise the stuff. braid too.

Can't say I hate as I've never used it.  If the object of F/C to be invisible, why not just put on a FC leader and use a line that manages well.  I've use F/C leaders many times, have found zero advantage in getting more strikes, from species they are not line shy to ones that are supposed to be very line shy like mackerel.  I did find that my knots were not as good with F/C leaders, leader material is not the same as main line.

I'm, a braid user and love it, with 1 exception and that's for using lures that continuously spin 360 degrees ( barracuda tubes), the line twist especially on a spinning reel is real bad.  I can troll out mono or copoly, not so with braid.  At present I have silver thread 14#, cost was about 5 bucks for 270 yds., has worked well but no better or worse than any other brand.

[aceman387]

I tried it and hated it also. I switched to braid and never looked back.

[John G]

I just put 15# Tatsu on one of my Citica's. It's for my T-Rig and 3/8oz and above jig rod. I am trying it out it to see if it is more sensitive to me than 15# Big Game. I have no problems with going back to Big Game if the Tatsu doesn't work out even though I may try a heavier pound test Yo Zuri Hybrid before going back to Big Game.

[APK62]

I'm with you topwaterspook. I despise the stuff. braid too.

How did you make out with Suffix 832 on your spinning reel? What are your thoughts?

[TrippyJai]

Jeff, I've tried Berkeley Transition, Vanish, BPS, Vicious, and Seaguar. There have been days when it's warm and relatively windless that line conditioned flouro has worked. Mostly it's like trying to fish with a clockspring. I've not fished with a co-polymer. I have no idea how invisible it's supposed to be.

 

Give McCoy Mean Green a try. It's really an all in one co-polymer. I've never had any issues in over 4 years. It's strong, very limp even after leaving it on for 2 seasons, a few casts and it'll become limp again, very good abrasion resistant, knot strength, it does stretch, but less than mono and the price is right. They also claim it's invisible under water, but I can't confirm on that. I love it and use it on every set up except punching. You won't be disappointed. I even pay the extra cost to have it shipped to Canada.

[A-Jay]

I with you Stitch -

 

Main Line of Sufix 832 Braid and a leader of Berkley Big Game or more recently Maxima Ultragreen premium copolymer monofilament. 

 

A-Jay

[new2BC4bass]

Try a good Co-poly like Yo-zuri hybrid or CXX.  Make sure to use plenty of line conditioner and you will like it much better.  Plus the price is right on the money!  Next year in Mexico, I will have plenty of 20lb Yo-zuri you can spool up all of your reels if you like it.  I bought a 3lb spool (~8700 yrds)

 

Jeff

 

I've got 2 bottles of KVD Line Conditioner.  Hardly ever remember to use it.  One veteran told me he didn't spray the line because he felt it would eventually work its way into the bearings undoing the benefits of his secret sauce.  Use mono on a regular basis, and there is no need for a line conditioner.