Super User Ratherbfishing Posted October 4, 2013 Super User Posted October 4, 2013 One time, after a long drive to get to an out-of-state lake, it was getting late and we wanted to fish for just a few hours. Knowing that we were going to be there several days, we considered just fishing and then, in the next morning, purchasing licenses. But we decided to do the wise, and legal thing and get the licenses immediately. Sure enough, not 3 minutes out of the ramp, a game warden stopped us and asked for our licenses. So, whatever rationale one might use for not getting a license, it's not worth it. Same goes with birth control.
Super User AK-Jax86 Posted October 4, 2013 Super User Posted October 4, 2013 Wrong on both counts, at least in Kansas. Any state, county or municipal L.E.O can enforce any state law in his jurisdiction, including fish and game laws. An out-of-state resident license is not valid in Kansas either. Tom I'm sure it's different from each state lol I was simply saying if you had an out of state drivers and fishing license and are in Kansas on a trip I doubt they would hassle you is all I am saying. Maybe in Kansas since they have nothing to do they might bother you jk
Super User K_Mac Posted October 4, 2013 Super User Posted October 4, 2013 I'm sure it's different from each state lol I was simply saying if you had an out of state drivers and fishing license and are in Kansas on a trip I doubt they would hassle you is all I am saying. Maybe in Kansas since they have nothing to do they might bother you jk I can't speak for Kansas, but if you show a DNR agent a Florida drivers and fishing license while fishing in Illinois you will not be happy with the reaction. I traveled for years in my job, and at times had the chance to fish with local guys. I always bought a license. A couple of times the experience did not justify the expense, but it was just the cost of choosing to fish out of state. While I am certainly no saint, I completely agree with FishinDaddy that if you are going to use a local resource, paying to help fund it is the responsible thing to do. I once made the choice to fish with an expired boat sticker that I had forgotten to renew. I told my wife we had fished the lake dozens of times and never even seen a DNR agent. We had not been on the water 30 minutes when they arrived. The fine was more than the sticker and I paid both...
jessejames556 Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 From my understanding, most states natural resource departments use license funding to protect wildlife and the fisheries we enjoy so much. That is the one time I do not mind paying the government money.
Super User AK-Jax86 Posted October 4, 2013 Super User Posted October 4, 2013 Lol this concept is too complex I think. Bottom line just like speeding you MAY get caught and if you do it is up to the officer if he will issue a citation or not, that's pretty clear. I know plenty of people who don't have fishing licenses me I figure I might as well have it eventhough I may never need to use it... Like insurance coverage lol
Super User Felix77 Posted October 4, 2013 Super User Posted October 4, 2013 If you plan enough to bring your gear when you travel you can plan to get a license too. No excuse. I use the opportunity to visit a BassPro in the area. If you are truly pressed for time then buy it before the trip online.
Crookedneck Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 Integrity ~ Doing the right thing, even when no one is looking!
aquaholic Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 As I first started typing this out, i was going to say i would risk it if for only a half hour or hour. But as i thought more and more its too big of a risk. Here in indiana they can impound your vehicle ,and take all your equipment. Not to mention the fines involved. Just doesnt make much sense to risk all that for an hour.
Super User David P Posted October 5, 2013 Super User Posted October 5, 2013 Good luck with that plan....NYS DEC Police will confiscate everything used in the process of catching fish. How do I know? A pair of guys took illegal limits of steelhead, stored them in their camper. Guess what? Camper, truck, rods, reels, and all the rest of their stuff taken, and they were sentenced to a jail term. They also cannot get a get a license in NY, and I believe more than half the states have reciprocity rules. This is for keeping illegal limits of STEELHEAD. Two big no-nos, the illegal limits and of a popular sport fish. Certainly they do not go to these measures for being from out of state and casually dipping your line in the water while on vacation. I do not condone any illegal activities whatsoever, but I would be SHOCKED if a ranger would go to any such extremes, assuming you provide proof of being from another state, and even better, proof of having a license in that state. California has some of the stiffest penalties and fines, and I have seen people busted without a license countless times with frequently being let go with no fine, or at the worst a ticket. 1
Super User Long Mike Posted October 5, 2013 Super User Posted October 5, 2013 I fish out of my home state quite a lot. Over the last nine years I have never seen a Game Warden in any of the lakes I have fished. One might think that I would be tempted to forgo the inconvenience of getting a license. I'm not. Texas and Oklahoma have reciprocal agreements for us Seniors. I don't need a license to fish in Texas, but I always buy one. It's my small contribution to the DNR's budget.
Super User DogBone_384 Posted October 5, 2013 Super User Posted October 5, 2013 I get my license every year. The hunting/fishing/salt water licenses cost about $70 depending on what endorsements you want. That's not even a tank of gas & not worth risking getting your gear confiscated in addition to fines. BTW - it's only about state revenue in most cases. Weigh the license cost versus potential penalties.
Super User J Francho Posted October 5, 2013 Super User Posted October 5, 2013 Well, scoff all you want. Come to New York with the attitude that you'll just take the ticket. If you cross my path, be advised I have several DEC Econ officers on speed dial. I don't tolerate that crap one bit. 1
JellyMan Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 I have done it a few times. But the fact that your money goes to helping keep the waters clean and fishable is the most important thing. There are a lot of bogus costs around for services these days but a fishing license helps us all. You know where your money is going... for the most part. Wether you fish with a license out of state for a few hours or not is up to you but again, when you pay for a license, it helps us all as fisherman. Anybody who wants to refute the fact that revenue from fishing licenses do not translate into fishery management is wrong due to the fact that I personally know individuals who work in this field. Not saying the money is "all" there, but it is definitely "there". On another note, if it is private water, then No. No way would I dish money for that. Kinda like paying taxes to the Federal Gov during a shut down. "Ehem". Just saying.
Super User David P Posted October 5, 2013 Super User Posted October 5, 2013 Well, scoff all you want. Come to New York with the attitude that you'll just take the ticket. If you cross my path, be advised I have several DEC Econ officers on speed dial. I don't tolerate that crap one bit. Assuming this is towards me... Seems you went a little far to threaten me on a forum when no where in my post did I say I fish without a license, or that I would. I for one have never fished without a license... I was just saying your "story" of jail time and truck/camper being seized is a little far fetched and not typically what happens to someone caught simply fishing without a license. 3
Super User rockchalk06 Posted October 5, 2013 Super User Posted October 5, 2013 Assuming this is towards me... Seems you went a little far to threaten me on a forum when no where in my post did I say I fish without a license, or that I would. I for one have never fished without a license... I was just saying your "story" of jail time and truck/camper being seized is a little far fetched and not typically what happens to someone caught simply fishing without a license. And you know this how? It's a serious question BTW. Does it happen as much as taking a trophy buck illegally, probably not. Doesn't mean it won't happen or is "far fetched" it's the law and you can be punished more severely in different areas. My area now they will most likely cut you a fine and tell you to pound sand. Back home, it's a different story. You may be going home naked and broke. Some people take their hobby more serious than others. People who violate the law screw up the hobby even more for those of us who love it. Some take it more personal than others. You need to sit down and read the definition of threaten. Sounded to me like a blanket statement for anyone breaking the law, not directed at you.
Super User SirSnookalot Posted October 5, 2013 Super User Posted October 5, 2013 Assuming this is towards me... Seems you went a little far to threaten me on a forum when no where in my post did I say I fish without a license, or that I would. I for one have never fished without a license... I was just saying your "story" of jail time and truck/camper being seized is a little far fetched and not typically what happens to someone caught simply fishing without a license. The scenario is fishing for an hour or so without a license while being in another state. I believe in that case the person fishing is most likely catching and releasing, not keeping illegally sized or out of season fish. Sure it's possible the fisherman could indure the full wrath of the law, but most likely a ticket or a suggestion to quit fishing and leave. If I saw someone just fishing, would I ask them to produce a license, I don't think so.
aceman387 Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 I would buy a license. I go fishing to relax,i don't think i would have peace of mind knowing i could be stopped and checked at any given moment. On a side note, i was coming home from fishing the other night and i had a guy in front of me with a Illinois conservation plate with a fish on it roll down his window and fling out a soda can or a beer can along the road.I don't get people sometimes. 1
wngan9447 Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 They take your equipment here in Massachusetts. The DCR guys here can usually peg the people without licenses by the equipment you're using. Or at least know the chances of someone fishing with a higher end rod and reel will have a license. Forget the fines.... I wouldn't be able to live with myself if they took my gear. Yes I would buy the license. I rather do research on buying the license then doing research on the penalty.
Super User David P Posted October 5, 2013 Super User Posted October 5, 2013 And you know this how? It's a serious question BTW. Does it happen as much as taking a trophy buck illegally, probably not. Doesn't mean it won't happen or is "far fetched" it's the law and you can be punished more severely in different areas. My area now they will most likely cut you a fine and tell you to pound sand. Back home, it's a different story. You may be going home naked and broke. Some people take their hobby more serious than others. People who violate the law screw up the hobby even more for those of us who love it. Some take it more personal than others. You need to sit down and read the definition of threaten. Sounded to me like a blanket statement for anyone breaking the law, not directed at you. Really not going to get into this or make it more than it needs to be. Jail time for being on vacation and casually fishing? Sounds extreme when I have witnessed people caught without a license and being let off entirely. All I was saying was taking illegal limits of fish is different than the original posters question. The worst I have ever heard is taking the rod and reel you're using, not jail or seizing a vehicle. As for your last sentence... Scoff all "YOU" want...Sure seemed it was aimed in response to someone's comment, not a blanket statement. "If you cross my path" ... Not trying to argue by any means. I for one buy my license wherever I go. And if it wasn't a statement from francho toward me, than it's entirely my mistake and a misunderstanding.
nascar2428 Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 I'm sure most of us would not risk driving a car without a license, so why risk fishing without a license?
CayMar Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 To me it seems like if I buy the license I probably won't ever get asked to show it. If I don't buy it there is a 100% chance I will be asked to show it. That's just my luck though. 1
Brian6428 Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 I would buy a license. I go fishing to relax,i don't think i would have peace of mind knowing i could be stopped and checked at any given moment. On a side note, i was coming home from fishing the other night and i had a guy in front of me with a Illinois conservation plate with a fish on it roll down his window and fling out a soda can or a beer can along the road.I don't get people sometimes. This.
Super User senile1 Posted October 5, 2013 Super User Posted October 5, 2013 I buy licenses in all states where I fish. It is just the right thing to do and I think just about everyone here probably agrees and does the same. Not only is it right because it is the law, but as FishinDaddy stated, we should support the resources we use. Heck, I'll support resources I don't use.
Super User J Francho Posted October 5, 2013 Super User Posted October 5, 2013 Not a direct threat to anyone in particular, just those that think it's not a big deal. We have a ton of poaching up here in NY, and a few guys that don't care can ruin things. (null) 1
Super User deaknh03 Posted October 5, 2013 Super User Posted October 5, 2013 They take your equipment here in Massachusetts. The DCR guys here can usually peg the people without licenses by the equipment you're using. Or at least know the chances of someone fishing with a higher end rod and reel will have a license. Forget the fines.... I wouldn't be able to live with myself if they took my gear. Yes I would buy the license. I rather do research on buying the license then doing research on the penalty. They CAN take your equipment, but more often than not, you get ticketed. I have been witness to it more than once. 1
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