Loop_Dad Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 With fluorocarbon, if you don't tie a good knot it breaks. Not wetting the knot while you tie one is a big no-no with fluorocarbon. I check my knot by visually inspecting and by giving a good pull after I tie one. If all of these are too much, then you are probably not ready for fluorocarbon yet. Stick with mono for now.
aquaholic Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 When I started in the spring I changed out two or three times until I found a good set up - six pound clear Sufix Elite that was my main bass catcher, on a spinning reel. Also eight pound clear P-line floroclear that did the job. But I was mostly fishing at a lake/reservoir state park bank fishing and those lines could handle the bass. As summer has moved forward I have found more and more places to fish that have larger bass. Looking back over the summer, I remember a few more times when that Floroclear broke. I remember using that six pound mono Sufix in early spring and holding the line in my hand with a bass on the line and it not breaking. I'm starting to think that Sufix mono line is very good mono. I'm starting to get suspicious of fluorocarbon and knot problems. 6lb test should be sufficient for most bass when your drag is set correctly. The fact that you are not wetting the line and pulling a fish out of water by the line is the issue. What knot are you using?
hoosierbass07 Posted October 6, 2013 Author Posted October 6, 2013 I'm down to two knots - improved clinch knot and palomar knot. Since I always use the improved clinch knot while Texas Rigging fishing, 99% of my bass have been on the improved clinch knot.
hoosierbass07 Posted October 6, 2013 Author Posted October 6, 2013 I should add that none of my lines have broke while reeling in the bass. It's always been right at shore or on shore when I grabbed the line. That goes for both the six pound Sufix and eight pound floroclear. So I guess it is me more than the line. So I will have to learn to keep my hands off the line. I find it difficult to hold the reel by the handle with one hand and stretch to lip the bass with my other hand. How is it safely done?
Mr_Scrogg Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 I should add that none of my lines have broke while reeling in the bass. It's always been right at shore or on shore when I grabbed the line. That goes for both the six pound Sufix and eight pound floroclear. So I guess it is me more than the line. So I will have to learn to keep my hands off the line. I find it difficult to hold the reel by the handle with one hand and stretch to lip the bass with my other hand. How is it safely done? Net them.
Super User NorcalBassin Posted October 7, 2013 Super User Posted October 7, 2013 I'm one of the few that has had really good success with the Floroclear. I've since transitioned away from it in favor of Yozuri hybrid (strong as can be) and straight fluorocarbon, but I never had any breakage issues with anything from 4-12 lb.
Super User David P Posted October 7, 2013 Super User Posted October 7, 2013 I'm one of the few that has had really good success with the Floroclear. I've since transitioned away from it in favor of Yozuri hybrid (strong as can be) and straight fluorocarbon, but I never had any breakage issues with anything from 4-12 lb. Jeez. So strange cause I've never ever had any issues with any other line, I even didn't mind Vanish and people hated it. I broke off so many times with fluoroclear it drove me nuts. This was many years ago, maybe bad batch or older line, who knows, but it stunk for me. Glad to hear others dont' have such bad things to say about it.
Super User NorcalBassin Posted October 7, 2013 Super User Posted October 7, 2013 Yeah, I'd like to say that's the case (bad batch/old line) but I've heard way too many stories about problems for it to be just a handful of random bad batches. I think I've probably just been lucky...
THE BASS WHISPERER Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 Ive got a 3000 spool of 12lbs and love it! ive never had any problems with it. But then again im not grabbing the line either! i think thats your problem , along with the 6 lbs test!!!
Super User Hooligan Posted October 7, 2013 Super User Posted October 7, 2013 P-line fluoroclear is one of the lowest tensile strength lines out there. It has terrible reviews from a wide variety of sources and it has never been well received on the main. Part of the problem, I'm sure, is pilot error. As has been stated already, lube your knots. Try to avoid lifting a fish with your hand on the line. It can add a lot of shock to the line in a hurry.
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted October 7, 2013 Global Moderator Posted October 7, 2013 I've had few problems with fluoroclear but I have had a couple times it broke for no apparent reason. In the OP's case it really sounds to me like the fish broke the line because he grabbed the line. A net or a pair of grippers will solve that problem.
hoosierbass07 Posted October 8, 2013 Author Posted October 8, 2013 What size of net for bass should I buy?
bigfishbk86 Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 What size of net for bass should I buy? Dude, WET YOUR KNOTS
Super User Darren. Posted October 8, 2013 Super User Posted October 8, 2013 Dude, WET YOUR KNOTS He can do that AND wet his knots. No problem using a net. I use one and it has saved me from losing bass a few times. Don't need a huge net, heck, a trout net would help in a pinch. 1
jerzeeD Posted October 9, 2013 Posted October 9, 2013 I use P-line flouroclear on my crankbait setup and love it. First problem, move up to 10 lb. Test. The line diameter is your REAL concern, not test rating. This line is generally thinner in diameter than comparable lines of the same lb. Test rating. I have all spinning rigs. My crankbait setup uses 12 lb. Flouroclear.... While I have 3 other full time setups that use P-line CX. 2 of them use 12 lb. CX, and 1 uses 15 lb CX. Once again, all spinning setups and no manageability issues on any of them. LOL.... Most other 15 lb. lines would coil off the spool of your standard bass sized spinning reels. ( in this case a 35 size Pflueger medalist) but not this stuff.
Cgrinder Posted October 9, 2013 Posted October 9, 2013 What size of net for bass should I buy? I got a rubber-netting one from Dick's for like $40 and I believe it extends to six feet. Plenty big for bass. I would get the biggest one you can keep around, really. Here in Pike Country, nets save fingers, line, and lures!
Creekcrappie Posted October 9, 2013 Posted October 9, 2013 I just lost my brand new shad rap using fluroclear. Took it all off that night.
Graham Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 I have one of my reels spooled with fluoroclear and have never had an issue. I don’t hoist fish by the line though (especially fish of good size). Try avoiding that and see if it helps.
bagofdonuts Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 with any floro you should use a knot that doubles the line to reduce slipping. I use an improved cinch knot, but double the line going through the hook eye then tie the improved cinch with the doubled line. never had that knot fail, but i wet it, tighten it the same way each time, and inspect it. If it's not clean and neat looking I cut it off and retie. you should also check your line fairly often for nicks, if you feel one, cut it off and retie. catching big bass is about being prepared when one bites.
Super User NYWayfarer Posted May 1, 2018 Super User Posted May 1, 2018 Old thread but interesting to see if anyone's opinions have changed. I started using P-Line Floroclear this year for Trout fishing. I am using 4lb line and have had no issues so far. Sprayed it with reel snot when I spooled it onto my reel. Caught 5 Trout, 3 on inline spinners, 2 on Berkley Powerbait. No breaks so far and I only retied twice. I use a palomar knot and wet the line before cinching it. I have been able to lift the Trout out of the water and onto shore with no issues. So far I am happy.
Super User J Francho Posted May 1, 2018 Super User Posted May 1, 2018 Why are we digging up five year old threads? 1 1
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