Big-O Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 With the NEW "DB" RageTail Craw, KVD caught some of his BEST Keepers at the BASS All Star Tournament taking 2nd! Below is the Bama Craw illustration... Hope y'all like'em! Quote
Mr_Scrogg Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 Big O, I might need to physically assess these privately. A Dozen in assorted colors should suffice. 1 Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 I ordered a bunch of DB Craws the other day. I cant wait to test them out. I've been waiting for a craw like this for awhile. Quote
Super User Shane J Posted October 1, 2013 Super User Posted October 1, 2013 Hmmm.... Guess we have similar tastes. Course, I was only pitching in 7' water, and not heavy veggies, so the lighter weight, and not pegged. Deadly little Craw! Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 1, 2013 Super User Posted October 1, 2013 I know you (Big O) design all of your baits, but did any of your prostaff help tweak the DB during testing? Quote
Super User Gatorbassman Posted October 1, 2013 Super User Posted October 1, 2013 Outstanding. I am very excited about this one Big-O. I can't wait to get my hands on some. Quote
loudcherokee Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 I havent fished craws for very long, and mostly just use them as trailers on jigs and buzz baits, so forgive me if this is a silly question....whats the major difference between these db craws and last years rage tails? LC Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 1, 2013 Super User Posted October 1, 2013 Each claw is split and shaped into two for more action. Quote
Super User Shane J Posted October 1, 2013 Super User Posted October 1, 2013 The claws don't flail out as much as the original Craw on the retrieve, and the inside flappers give the bait a real 3-D look in the water. Basically, it is a slightly lower profile bait than the original, while adding a little something extra in those claws. Quote
dreamertino Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 Got mine waiting on my Siebert jigs to fish them on I may go ahead and try them t rigged for the time being Quote
Big-O Posted October 2, 2013 Author Posted October 2, 2013 I know you (Big O) design all of your baits, but did any of your prostaff help tweak the DB during testing? Yes RW, Two sets of EAGLE eyes and Flippin prowess behind this design! To make it P E R F E C T, Denny and I worked on it together for about a year Where the claws hang is where they flap... And they're little Buzz saws Glad yall are having FUN with'em! According to Denny, we're the innovators... and the best just got better... I tend to agree OF COURSE, lol 2 Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted October 2, 2013 Super User Posted October 2, 2013 Do the claws float? That was my only and I repeat only complaint on the Rage Craws. I know they will float for a few, but wondering if the new ones do? Quote
Super User Shane J Posted October 2, 2013 Super User Posted October 2, 2013 No, they don't float. The only Rage Tails that float, are the Crab and Shrimp, made of Elaztec. Quote
Brian Needham Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 question............. I love me some rage tails, so no disrespect meant. My question is: How/why for day to day fishing or day in day out conditions are these better or a higher level than the "original" rage craw? I know that is a more pointed question than I mean it to be, but what are we looking for to be different in the way of a fishes reaction versus the original? 1 Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted October 2, 2013 Super User Posted October 2, 2013 question............. I love me some rage tails, so no disrespect meant. My question is: How/why for day to day fishing or day in day out conditions are these better or a higher level than the "original" rage craw? I know that is a more pointed question than I mean it to be, but what are we looking for to be different in the way of a fishes reaction versus the original? While the original craws are my go to, I can see the extra split in the craws creating much more movement and vibration. I am gonna try some! Jeff 1 Quote
Brian Needham Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 kinda what I was thinking Jeff, smaller yet more moving water? but you know how I like to keep it simple.... 1 Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted October 2, 2013 Super User Posted October 2, 2013 I thought the point was the claws put off less movement that the original rage Craws. 1 Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted October 2, 2013 Super User Posted October 2, 2013 I thought the point was the claws put off less movement that the original rage Craws. Well hopefully Big-O will get on here and answer, because I would think double the flanges, double the water movement. But I could be wrong...... Jeff 1 Quote
Super User Shane J Posted October 3, 2013 Super User Posted October 3, 2013 Big O will come on and give you the answers you seek, but I can tell you, the original Craw moves more water than the DB Craw. The bigger single claws, and bigger flanges of the original create a wider throw with more resistance, therefore, more thump. These new ones are a tighter wiggle, and they don't spread out on the retrieve. The extra pincers add a lot of depth within the arms of the bait, while remaining more in line with the rest of it. If they were sound waves, the original would have more bass, and the DB would be more midrange. The Menace would be the treble. 3 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted October 3, 2013 Super User Posted October 3, 2013 Big O will come on and give you the answers you seek, but I can tell you, the original Craw moves more water than the DB Craw. The bigger single claws, and bigger flanges of the original create a wider throw with more resistance, therefore, more thump. These new ones are a tighter wiggle, and they don't spread out on the retrieve. The extra pincers add a lot of depth within the arms of the bait, while remaining more in line with the rest of it. If they were sound waves, the original would have more bass, and the DB would be more midrange. The Menace would be the treble. A Virtual Symphony of Rage Craw Music ! A-Jay 2 Quote
Brian Needham Posted October 3, 2013 Posted October 3, 2013 Ode to black bass, in rage major!!!!! 3 Quote
Big-O Posted October 3, 2013 Author Posted October 3, 2013 LOL, I like the detailed question answer sessions... and responses Shane has covered the differences well in his info. This design was produced to keep all of the claw action directly behind the Craw and with less arm flapping motion out to the sides. The arms stay right where they are and all 4 of the claw appendages flap extremely fast with the outside 2 being at different speed and intervals than the inside 2... I call it Harmonizing, so A-Jay and Brian are following a similar thought process too It's actually providing 2 different flicker rates within the same bait action design. Comparing the DB Craw to the original Rage Craw can be best described as the DB is "More Compact" in it's swimming action. The claws move basically the same amount of water because the total amount of flanges provided on the 4 flappers are equal to the original 2 on the first design. The big difference is that these 4 flappers are designed to work in the backwash of the baits body regardless of the speed of fall or retrieve. With these claws remaining behind the body, it makes the overall action less obvious or SUBTLE compared to the original Rage Craw. It's a fact that the total DB Craw design moves less water than the original Rage CRAW, because the DB arms stay behind the Craw body making the claws swim in the backwash of the craw body or jig... if used as a trailer. The original RAGE Craw was designed to allow the claws to move outside the body width in order to find CLEAN unused water which provides the wider stance or swimming action, disturbing more total water in the overall design profile. Denny and I started with this basic thought... Make a Craw that is more compact for flipping, punching or trailing a jig that can still maintain great flicker rate or flapping action in the backwash of the bait body or jig. The DB Rage Craw was Born! So there you have it and sorry that the explanation is so lengthy 4 Quote
Super User AK-Jax86 Posted October 3, 2013 Super User Posted October 3, 2013 Big O you should work on top water floating craws and frogs you could change the game. I fish these craws top water if I had ones that float and the claws dangled it'd be deadly! 1 Quote
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