The Women Are Worse!

[coryn h. fishowl]

I don't see black, white woman or man, I simply see what lure your using when I look over your shoulder

 

 "I think we don't approach it as women primarily."  

 This is so key.  I enjoyed your post and especially your attitude! I watch Stacy Z's videos and she seems to have the same one. It seems it's in your nature not to get caught up in the petty stuff.....you turned your back on the prejudice you encountered. And you're getting back what you're putting out good-naturedly from both women AND men, I think. Yes, we're women, and that influences how we see our world. But it ain't the end-game! Congrats on your win! Keep going.....bass fishing needs women like you. Welcome here You'll find the best advice and support you could want. I have. Wish I could fish with you!  

I don't see black, white, woman, or man, I only see what lure your using when I peek over your shoulder

 

[Sam]

When placed in an uncomfortable position many people "attack" first. So if the people you are with are not comfortable with your hobbies (fishing, quilting, sewing, scrapbooking, etc.) they will say something negative to bring the others to their side against you. Happens all the time in real life.

 

Deep down inside these individuals may be insecure or not used to ladies being interested in a "sport" which is a male's territory.

 

A lot of young girls are not interested in football. So they do not wear either NFL or college team colors nor go or watch the games on TV. If a young lady likes football and has no support system (another female who likes football) then the girls who are not into football will critique and make fun of her out of their insecurities.

 

My wife lets me alone with my fishing and I let her alone with her quilting. She joins me for fishing functions and I join her for quilting activities. When asked if I quilt we say "no, he fishes" and that's that. If anyone attacks me verbally I can turn on them in an instant and destroy them with a verbal attack. Not proud to be able to do this but it is something I learned many years ago.

 

So ladies, you go fish and let the other women do the dishes, laundry, clean house, do yard work, shop and stay at home watching TV.

[coryn h. fishowl]

When placed in an uncomfortable position many people "attack" first. So if the people you are with are not comfortable with your hobbies (fishing, quilting, sewing, scrapbooking, etc.) they will say something negative to bring the others to their side against you. Happens all the time in real life.

 

Deep down inside these individuals may be insecure or not used to ladies being interested in a "sport" which is a male's territory.

 

A lot of young girls are not interested in football. So they do not wear either NFL or college team colors nor go or watch the games on TV. If a young lady likes football and has no support system (another female who likes football) then the girls who are not into football will critique and make fun of her out of their insecurities.

 

My wife lets me alone with my fishing and I let her alone with her quilting. She joins me for fishing functions and I join her for quilting activities. When asked if I quilt we say "no, he fishes" and that's that. If anyone attacks me verbally I can turn on them in an instant and destroy them with a verbal attack. Not proud to be able to do this but it is something I learned many years ago.

 

So ladies, you go fish and let the other women do the dishes, laundry, clean house, do yard work, shop and stay at home watching TV.

It's a useful skill, btw, remind me not to tick you off Sam

[Rochelle Cavanaugh]

"If I want to pick up a new man...it won't be at a fishing tournament.  They only have one thing on their mind!!!!!!!!

 

I understand, and have heard comments, that some of the wives might not be 100% cool with their husbands being on a boat with a woman they don't know for 9 hours.  This may sound harsh, but if they are that insecure, they are the type that would worry if he asked a woman where the trash bags are at the grocery store.  I try to be nice, professional, and myself."

 

EXACTLY! It's a professional sport. We're both there for one thing... fishing. I grew up fishing with my brother, uncles and dad. Those were LONG days on the water and if we needed to pee we'd turn our heads. Change clothes? Turn our heads. It's called respect. We need to see ourselves as sisters and brothers on the water instead of pieces of mindless meat-- (but society propogates that off the water..)

 

I'm trying to get into a club here in San Diego, CA and it's been tough because I am a co-angler and my husband doesn't fish. He is really supportive and trusts our marriage will survive my hobby and a few tournaments. hahaha I thought the bass masters community is suppose to be a family? I guess I'll just keep looking for that kind of club...

[bigbill]

When I worked for the engineering group I took the female tech's out for lunch

sometimes. Most of the time it would just be the two of us. I treated every gal like she was my sister with the up most respect. My wife had no problem with that but I'm sure at work the rumors were flying around behind my back. I would down play if I heard any stupid rumors anyway. I like to think about everyone being adults but they can be like little kids. Gossip and rumors makes them feel better I guess. I hit it off with some gals as a friend and were coworkers. We put up with each other 8 hours a day. Its like a second home and family. I treat everyone like I want to be treated. Wether it's working, fishing or having a coffee/lunch at a local eatery what's the diff? I go home to the love of my life my wife. I love some people like there family but I'm in love with my wife. That's the difference. Bill

[Fishing Cowgirl]

I've been in male oriented careers all my life and from  family of outdoors men and women. They raised bird dogs and hunted every season, then fished in between or during them. I don't let other's opinions get in the way of enjoying something I love to do, especially since it is legal. If someone tells me I can't do something just because I'm a woman, It usually makes me try harder at it. I've fished since I was old enough to hold a cane pole and bait my own hook. I was always encouraged by the family and in fact it was expected that I know how to catch it, clean it and cook it.  

 

I found a fantastic man who is a wonderful fishing partner, who doesn't mind and in fact encourages me to get out and fish, even if it is by myself or with someone else. (He found out that some fishermen will give me tips on lures that wouldn't breathe a word about it to others.) By fishing in  local Sunday afternoon tournament by myself, I made contact with a fellow,now a friend, who ran a monthly couples tournament.This was much more affordable than what we were doing, it put us in contact with other couples who lived locally and loved to fish, which led to fishing in a larger monthly tournament called Weekend Warriors Bass club. We now fish both, have a great time, and right now I'm the only woman to fish in the Warriors club. We've ended up placing 1st and had Big Bass on Lake Kissimmee,where I caught the big bass. This made the other guys take notice. We moved from 11th to tied for 4th in that. We moved up again the next one, where I caught the only fish. That kept us in the top ten, since that is a tough lake and alot of teams didn't even catch a fish (14" +minimum). This last Saturday was a fun, no points tournament on Lake Garcia and Hubby was happy to be netman for me. I caught a 1.9 lb, 3lb, 4.9lb, and a 5.50lb, coming in 3rd place with less than 1 lb between 3rd and 1st, and missed Big Bass by less than 3 ounces. I've now been nicknamed BFL (Big Fish Lisa) lol. Some of the guys were even asking me what lure I was using.  Just "one of the guy's now"

 

To go fishing, hearing the wildlife, gators calling and carrying on disagreements with each other, the waterfowl making their racket in the pre-dawn while you are waiting for safe light and the only thing that seems to be missing is Tarzan's Yell.  That is part of an experience and making memories that will last until I can't fish anymore. I've enjoyed meeting and being Caption for the PVA and Wounded Warriors. They didn't have a problem with being assigned to a female captain and their wives didn't complain. I've encouraged other ladies to get out an fish and told soem to take their little girls fishing.

[KyakR]

I too have worked mostly in male dominated professions all my life. It really is about simple respect......respect for oneself, respect for others. In a committed relationship I think it's a big mistake to try to control one another period. I can understand the caution a spouse might feel when his/her partner spends a great deal of time in a much-loved activity with members of the opposite sex, though. Best thing for this is to talk together affectionately about it and keep a sense of humor. It can be an opportunity to become even closer and more trusting (I'm an optimist)!

To be "Just "one of the guy's now"........(what Fishing Cowgirl said)  is my aspiration. She eloquently expressed the heart of fishing. And I totally loved everything Rochelle Cavenaugh wrote! What they said!!

Encouraging other women, and especially children, in fishing has always been important to me. I think encouragement and bonding with an adult who goes fishing with them makes ALL the difference. Gender has nothing to do with it. Women receive less encouragement and are less exposed to the joy of all kinds of angling. When women understand better what fishing really is I think it lessens any pre-occupation with their man's foolin' around. The girls they want are in the water.

Fishing Cowgirl said, "I've encouraged other ladies to get out an fish and told them to take their little girls fishing." Yes,yes!

[bigbill]

Like I said before about my son's girlfriend riding dirtbikes and beating most guys takes a lot of work and dedication to get her there. I taught her she can be as good as you want to be but you must stay focused and motivated. My son showed her the rest. This is one tough gal. She rode hard, took her lumps and never gave up nor complained once.

She taught me how tough gals can be too. I seen her tear her ACL and try to get back on the bike to ride it off. We took a trip to ride up north not expecting ice and snow. She fell numerous times like we all did and she never moaned or cried once. I seen her take shots in her crashes that would sent any guy home crying. When most guys heard a girl was going to ride with us there eyes would roll. Then when she beat them she earned there respect as a fellow rider or they would disappear never to ride again with us. These were our buddies we hung out with. Funny they never mentioned her name too.

My point is anyone goes in a under dog being new to any sport. Being a woman your seen more as an under dog. Till you prove your worth and spot in the line up. You actually earn there respect by doing better than them. My congrats to any woman who does it. You have my deepest respect.

But some guys can't accept losing to a woman. They don't show it on the outside but there hurting on the inside. I just laugh at them. There the ones who won't show up to compete again.

[boatfan77]

My wife and her girlfriend asked me to take them fishing and target shooting. I think it's awesome that there showing interest. They can fish with me anytime. I'm always alone anyway. I'll take them pan fishing. I already purchased them light casting rods with zebco reels.

Two women's & Two great catches :-)

[boatfan77]

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[KyakR]

[Keri]

I'm late to the thread but I have to say sorry to Brian, however your post did make me chuckle.

 

I hope all is well now and the waters are calm.

 

Keri

[Brian Needham]

I'm late to the thread but I have to say sorry to Brian, however your post did make me chuckle.

 

I hope all is well now and the waters are calm.

 

Keri

 

no worries girl........looking forward to seeing you and Glenn again this year!

[BeckieC]

I normally fish with either my hubby or my son or both, on the last day of the road trip last year I fished with FishinDaddy.   It was the first time I had ever been fishing with a man who wasn't my husband since I've been married and it felt really weird.  Lee was awesome, a gentleman all the way, and we had a good time, and of course the only thing going on was fishing but it still felt weird and awkward for a good long while.

[KyakR]

If I get a chance to get to the Roadtrip this year (it's looking good ) I'll have the experience of fishing with someone else, guy and gal, for the first time since I went with my dad 50 + years ago! I'll probably be a lot more relaxed with a woman for starters because that's just the way nature made us. I'm sure that'll be true of the guy. But I'll be so happy to have the chance to learn and share experience I believe any uncertainty will be fleeting, even though I'm quite shy by nature.

I think in general  men and women who pooh-pooh the dangers of spending a lot of time on the water alone with someone not your husband/wife/committed partner are making a mistake. Nature meant for there to be attraction, and it's had enormous power for hundreds of millions of years. It's the engine of survival itself in all life.

Hey, there's an ancient myth (Greek?) that after the world was born each human being was both male and female and began to attack the gods. So they split man in half, each half a different gender. That meant man would be so preoccupied and dithered he wouldn't be able to attack anything.   Lots of truth in this!

[bigbill]

I just crack myself up and laugh at everyone inside. My wife's girlfriend is like a sister to me that I never had. I went birthday shopping for her and gave her boots similair to uggs. I gave her and my wife nice warm Browning socks, rings (not expensive) insulated gloves and hats. I just want them to be warm so they don't get sick. I'm just being nice and thoughtful. Of course everyone has there minds thinking bad thoughts. But I gave my daughter and my two daughter in laws the same thing. Now I'm going to my cancer center with some wristwatches to do a grab of gifts for the techs that we're nice to me for my cancer radiation treatments. I bought some biker stuff for one of the gals there who rides Harleys and takes kids fishing too. I'm being really nice to everyone this year. I laugh inside when I can tell what people are thinking. I guess it's human nature. I been also bringing the gals at the cancer center Bridgewater chocolate too every so often to say thanks for the way they treated me. These aren't cheap chocolates but I want to say thanks and I'm still here because of what they do. The cost means nothing. It's the new friends I have made.

What's wrong to being nice to people who treat you nice. Does it have to make rumors fly? How can people be so ignorant?

Merry Christmas, God bless, remember Jesus is the reason for the season. Bill

[bigbill]

If I get a chance to get to the Roadtrip this year (it's looking good ) I'll have the experience of fishing with someone else, guy and gal, for the first time since I went with my dad 50 + years ago! I'll probably be a lot more relaxed with a woman for starters because that's just the way nature made us. I'm sure that'll be true of the guy. But I'll be so happy to have the chance to learn and share experience I believe any uncertainty will be fleeting, even though I'm quite shy by nature.

I think in general  men and women who pooh-pooh the dangers of spending a lot of time on the water alone with someone not your husband/wife/committed partner are making a mistake. Nature meant for there to be attraction, and it's had enormous power for hundreds of millions of years. It's the engine of survival itself in all life.

Hey, there's an ancient myth (Greek?) that after the world was born each human being was both male and female and began to attack the gods. So they split man in half, each half a different gender. That meant man would be so preoccupied and dithered he wouldn't be able to attack anything.   Lots of truth in this!

Why do they hunt deer during the rutting season? The bucks get preoccupied and stupid. There's truth in what you say man is no different. Bill

[SirSnookalot]

This was the theme to another recent thread. There are a lot of wives that just don't want

their men hanging around other women regardless of what they are doing. Spending a day

on a boat "together" is something that bothers non-fisherwomen. My wife doesn't care a thing 

about my fishing, but I know she would not approve of a "regular" female partner.

I couldn't agree more.

My wife does things without me, book clubs, museums, lectures and I wouldn't appreciate her going with another man, by the same token I don't think she would appreciate me having a female fishing partner.  Temptation is not the issue, respect is.  

[KyakR]

It's always been my belief that when you're with or addressing a married person, male or female, you're not dealing with one person, but two. Respect truly is the issue. Marriage is a sacred covenant in all religions for a reason. It's a precious thing, perhaps the most precious thing that human beings build together. Of course, there are many people who are inattentive to theirs for various reasons, or having a momentary lapse. If I care about people in general, or someone specifically, why would I ever encourage him to even risk his even a little? It wouldn't matter that my intent is honorable. I try to also think of his/her spouse in all my conduct. 

But Bill, your attention to others flows from the best kind of caring! Anyone who knows you even a little gets this. You're not responsible for others' imaginings about you, as you know.......the people that matter are the ones you're showing your gratitude to. They know. And as a former RN, I can tell you that your thanks in these gifts means everything! If only people knew how difficult it is to come to care about patients with chronic illnesses over time and to lose some of them, to see them struggle so valiantly and be unable to help past the limits of science. Your smile and small gifts are actually healing, Bill. Thank you.

[bigbill]

You know I feel really like Santa just because of the smiles I get when I give them little things. I been married for forty years in the spring. I'm still working on my marriage to keep it a success. It never stops let's face it. I try to stop and listen more lately. I make sure it's all good. I can never figure out what she really likes or wants with her being an accountant she's cheap and won't spend money. We all just surprised her on her 60th birthday. My kids wanted to pay but dad picked up the $1,000 tab for the birthday bash with family and friends plus coworkers. It meant more than money to me.

We really kept it under wraps for a month too that was hard. She never bothers me about any of my hobbies. She's a great mother to my children, a great partner to me. She keeps both of my feet planted on the earth. Remember you get out of a marriage/partnership what we put into it. God bless, bill

[roadwarrior]

My wife doesn't fish, but she has her hobbies.