bmlum415 Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 Trokar when punching otherwise gamakatsu all the way Quote
Super User Felix77 Posted September 23, 2013 Super User Posted September 23, 2013 I am sold on the new line of VMC Ike approved stuff. Much cheaper also. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted September 23, 2013 Super User Posted September 23, 2013 I think it is funny that all the negative reports on trokar is because they do their job better....hooks are designed to penetrate and if it gets hung up in a tree or shreds your plastic isn't it just doing it's job? Really there are a ton of good hooks out there and all it takes is one bad experience for fishermen in general to disregarda product....for me it is quantum. I had one bad experience and vowed to never buy another and i haven't, even though they may have some good products out there Quote
Super User J Francho Posted September 23, 2013 Super User Posted September 23, 2013 Out of those two, I'd pick Gamakatsu. I use VMC, Owner, Gamakatsu, and Daiichi. Quote
Super User CWB Posted September 23, 2013 Super User Posted September 23, 2013 Out of those two, I'd pick Gamakatsu. I use VMC, Owner, Gamakatsu, and Daiichi. X2 VMC not a bad option. http://www.***.com/VMC_Inline_1X_Treble_Hook/descpage-VMCILT.html If you like regular shank hooks, these are not a bad option for cranks. I use these and the gammy short shank magic eye in-line hooks. Quote
chase102798 Posted September 24, 2013 Posted September 24, 2013 I think it is funny that all the negative reports on trokar is because they do their job better....hooks are designed to penetrate and if it gets hung up in a tree or shreds your plastic isn't it just doing it's job? Really there are a ton of good hooks out there and all it takes is one bad experience for fishermen in general to disregarda product....for me it is quantum. I had one bad experience and vowed to never buy another and i haven't, even though they may have some good products out there You are missing out. I think the EXO is one of the best reels in that price point. Check out the Tacketour review they did. I love to be the odd man out. I absolutely LOVE Trokar hooks. They are by far the sharpest. I gave away every other hook I owned. With fluoro and long casts they do indeed shine and have given me a near perfect hooking percentage in the last two years with my jigs. I have never had problems with hook points rolling (I melt down beat up jigs and reuse the hooks that are still sharp) and they rust LESS fast than the owner hooks they replaced, at least for me. Salt will cause hooks to rust the fastest, so keeping your baits on extended periods of time (over days) is just a waste of good gear. I pour all my jigs with them and buy them in bulk. I pour hundreds of bulk hooks a season for myself and my two fishing partners. They each converted to Trokar and my die-hard worm buddy has been experiencing noticeably less lost fish. He may have gone through plastic less often, but he also lost more fish and at times had penetration issues with Gama and Owner hooks. I did a lot of hook testing on cold meat, and with a pull gauge, Trokars average a much lower pound force necessary to penetrate to the hook bend. Under a B&L 20x jewelers loop, mustad hooks are less than impressive. The points have noticeable roundness and sometimes deformity at that magnification. Gamas are pretty sharp as are owners. Of the round point style, Daiichi are crazy pointed under power and by far sharper than the former mentioned with the exception of the Trokar point. The end point on Daiichis are so fine, it is hard to see the actual tip clearly. We started doing these "exams" when we had some penetration issues with light line rigs for steelhead. We carried it over to our bass gear. I've never understood expensive rods, reels, lines, baits, and then everyone wants the cheapest hooks. I know guys who throw away their fluoro every tournament but buy discount hooks. Crazy to me. I pour my own plastics, so I have no problem with plastic waste. I haven't really noticed it anyway. But I don't use salt impregnated baits that shred crazy easy either. HD Density additive from CCM makes a worm fall like a senko but last twice as long. Salt rips baits and rusts hooks. I have had no decrease in catch percentage since not using salt. Buy Trokars and start pouring plastics. The savings are endless. My advice is experiment on your own. Buy a couple packs of each and spend some weeks on the water giving them a thorough evaluation. Be scientific about it and report back. Just my thoughts. 1 Quote
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