ghost Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 I've been using P-Line CXX in 4 lbs, just wondering if there is anything else better. I'm using the line on UL setups I have, and noticed I've snapped the line a few times setting the hook. So any 4 lb line that's better? Quote
BradGuenette Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 4lb seguar tatsu, that's what I use when spybaiting and it works great! Quote
I.rar Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Floroclear or I think suffix makes a 4# in their elite line too. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 8, 2013 Super User Posted September 8, 2013 #4 Yo-Zuri Hybrid is another option. The line diameter is .009", breaking strength is 8.5 lbs. The fish in my avatar were caught using this line. This one, too: http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/lake-guntersville-2012.html Quote
Hogsticker Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 I wouldn't worry so much about test poundage as I would line diameter. 8, 7, 6, and 5 lb. Sufix Fluoro are all thinner than 4 lb. Hybrid. It also handles as well as most Monos / Co - Polys Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted September 8, 2013 Super User Posted September 8, 2013 UL mono-stren magnathin 4#. love this stuff for stream trout. Quote
Super User bigbill Posted September 8, 2013 Super User Posted September 8, 2013 I use a 4lb copolymer line. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted September 8, 2013 Super User Posted September 8, 2013 I used 4# Trilene XL for many years in my youth. Snapped lures off casting with a 9' fiberglass rod, but don't recall every breaking the line on a hook set. Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted September 10, 2013 Super User Posted September 10, 2013 JMHO, but if you're breaking P-Line CXX in 4 lbs. on the hookset, it's not a line issue, it's a setup issue. Is your rod truly an UL rated rod, or are you just referring to it as such? That's about the thickest 4lb. line on the market. Anything else will probably just break easier or more often. Make sure you retie as often as necessary, and may have to tone down on your hookset a bit...or jump up to 6# line and see if the problem goes away. -T9 Quote
Craiger12 Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 JMHO, but if you're breaking P-Line CXX in 4 lbs. on the hookset, it's not a line issue, it's a setup issue. Is your rod truly an UL rated rod, or are you just referring to it as such? That's about the thickest 4lb. line on the market. Anything else will probably just break easier or more often. Make sure you retie as often as necessary, and may have to tone down on your hookset a bit...or jump up to 6# line and see if the problem goes away. -T9 x2. CXX is about as tough as it gets. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted September 10, 2013 Super User Posted September 10, 2013 Put spit on the knot before you tighten, then tighten slowly Quote
tholmes Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 #4 Yo-Zuri Hybrid is another option. The line diameter is .009", breaking strength is 8.5 lbs. The fish in my avatar were caught using this line. This one, too: http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/lake-guntersville-2012.html Another vote for Yo-Zuri Hybrid. Great stuff. Tom Quote
Super User bigbill Posted September 11, 2013 Super User Posted September 11, 2013 I just caught a decent bass on my ultra lite trout setup using Excalibur copolymer silver thread 4lb test. I was worried about landing it but it worked out find. I tried to break it by hand after and it's really tuff line. I switched to Excalibur silver thread line because I was losing too many bass on the cheap rubber band mono I was using. Years ago I was using the $1 per spool Garcia river mist mono line. It was ok for trout fishing but not for bass fishing. Quote
Capt.Bob Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 Trylene XL has always been my favorite for lighter mono, but have never tried the Yo-Zuri Hybrid, and RW has stood hard by it for a long time, I'm gonna have to try it! Quote
Super User NorcalBassin Posted September 12, 2013 Super User Posted September 12, 2013 Also a fan of 4 lb Tatsu... with a nice smooth reel set Quote
Brian Needham Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 size matters. which is why I differ from the yo zuri crowd. While I use yo zuri for some stuff, to say 4# yo zuri is great small # line is not the entire story IMO, as 4# yo zuri is the same size +/- .001 as everyone else's 8#. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 12, 2013 Super User Posted September 12, 2013 .001" larger diameter than Ande #4 .001" thinner than Ande #6. http://www.andemonofilament.com/linespecs.php Although there are no "standards", I think Ande should be. This is the only IGFA certified line. Additionally, more World Record fish have been caught using Ande than all other brands combined. If you are looking for a line record, this is the only line to consider. However, for those looking for a stronger line with similar diameter, Hybrid might be the ticket. Quote
Brian Needham Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 My main point that may have been missed is this: DO NOT look at pound size, look at ".000" size. If you are using yo-zuri 4# you are really using 8# or 9# line by SIZE. what we really need to know from the OP is WHY he is needing to use 4# line? is it just because he is using UL setup or is there another reason. I use trilene XL a lot in 4# and 6# bream fishing cause its cheap, but any nick and POOF snap off. hence the reason I use tatsu, it is the smallest (on average) pound for pound diameter out there. but in a bream fishing situation I am not using tatsu because it is not cost effictive IMO. and I agree with Kent about the standards, but for someone to use yo-zuri and think it is a "true" sized 4# is a fallacy, IMO since you can get many 8# lines of the same size JMO, take it for whats its worth. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 12, 2013 Super User Posted September 12, 2013 Okay... The bottom line is #4 at .008" diameter and 8.5 lb breaking strength. Unless you are looking for a line record, this is the best line for most guys looking for a stealthy presentation and some dependable strength. I catch lots of big bass on this line and have only been broken off once. http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/68635-huge-disappointment/ Quote
Brian Needham Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 Kent I am going to have to table this(though I think we agree more than disagree)..........I guess I am not making my point clear through type. Maybe one day we will hook up and discuss further over say.....a 50-75 fish day on the river Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 13, 2013 Super User Posted September 13, 2013 It's not an argument, just a discussion. I'm experimenting with #10 Tatsu right now which is thinner than Hybrid #4. We'll have to wait and see how this works out, but I promise that I will report results. Initially I will be fishing the line on the Tennessee River this fall. We'll just have to wait and see how well it performs against those little brown fish! Quote
Brian Needham Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 OH, I am not trying to argue, believe me. I think for the drifting of live minnows on the river Yozuri is best cause it is cheap. and since there are many hang ups, cheap/good line is the best! Granted I think Tatsu is tops 24/7/365 in any conditions or situation, but with all the hang ups associated with river drift fishing Tatsu could get expensive. Correct? Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 13, 2013 Super User Posted September 13, 2013 I wasn't really considering cost, just effectiveness. Will a pure fluorocarbon make a difference? Is the Tatsu strong enough in general and does it have enough "shock" strength in particular? There are several experiments going on here, so we'll see how the lines perform. 1 Quote
Brian Needham Posted September 13, 2013 Posted September 13, 2013 I wasn't really considering cost, just effectiveness. then Tatsu is 100% your line. I love the stuff....I have ran it on every combo I own this year. IMO, it has the right amount of everything. Quote
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