jiggz125 Posted September 5, 2013 Posted September 5, 2013 Hey Guys, Looking soon to buy my first bait-cast set up. 6'6" MH Fast Action St Croix rod with a pflueger trion baitcast reel. I belive gear ratio is 6:4:1 I will be getting off of cragislist. Wondering what the best line would be for this set up, brand, lb test, and type? I fish bass, norther, and walleye. Pretty much throw cranks and recently started plastic worm fishing which is awesome. Also if you have experience with this reel, any idea on how it worked for you? Thanks in advance Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted September 5, 2013 Super User Posted September 5, 2013 From what I've read about the power of St. Croix rods, I would venture to guess that crankbaits aren't going to do very well with this rod. Too powerful for treble hooks unless it is a designated crankbait rod...which I doubt since it has a Fast action. The Trion does very good casting as long as you stay 3/8 oz. or heavier. The spool is on the heavy side. Try to throw unweighted worms with it, and you will be asking for backlashes. Believe me! Stay within the rod's line rating. I'd say anywhere from 12# to #17# fluorocarbon or 40# braid. I like Performance, 832 and Samurai, but have used PowerPro with no problem as well. Give Sufix Performance a try. Lots of value for the money. Braid doesn't have sensitivity on a slack line. However, Bronzefly has stated that his catch ratio went up after switching to braid. You may want a fluoro leader with braid. I took my Trion to Florida earlier this year. Because the spool spun so freely when the clutch was disengaged, I thought it would do well throwing 10" unweighted worms. Wrong! Overrun or backlash almost every cast. Back home after having DVT clean it, I spooled on 17# Super Natural (it came with a light braid), mounted it on a MHF rod, tied on a 1/2 or 5/8 oz. lure (forget which), and proceeded to cast 2/3rds minimum across the river with no backlashes or overruns. May drop down to my normal 12# mono once this line becomes necessary to change. My personal opinion is that it is another under-rated reel as long as you stay within the weight range it was designed for. Not the lightest or the best looking, but a fine performing reel otherwise. Mike said he was effortlessly getting 75' with a 5" Senko and 1/8 oz. weight using very little braking. No brakes required more finesse on his part. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted September 5, 2013 Super User Posted September 5, 2013 I have a trion and throw unweighted trick worms with no backlash on 50 lb test suffix 832.i totally disagree that braid has no slack line sensitivity.i find it more sensistive under all conditions than any other line.as I've said before ,how much slack are we talking about and why would any body fish that way.the first thing I do is take up the slack.i fish wacky worms on fairly slack line on spinning with 20 lb 832 and have no problem feeling bites.you also have to line watch if you have a ton of slack. Quote
TankBobcatWatts Posted September 6, 2013 Posted September 6, 2013 I he is a beginner I would suggest a mono such as Stren original due to the castability of it. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted September 6, 2013 Super User Posted September 6, 2013 I have a trion and throw unweighted trick worms with no backlash on 50 lb test suffix 832.i totally disagree that braid has no slack line sensitivity.i find it more sensistive under all conditions than any other line.as I've said before ,how much slack are we talking about and why would any body fish that way.the first thing I do is take up the slack.i fish wacky worms on fairly slack line on spinning with 20 lb 832 and have no problem feeling bites.you also have to line watch if you have a ton of slack. Obviously you have a better thumb than I. Only way I could throw them was with care on my left because I can feather better on that side. Distance wasn't great. Nor was accuracy. I had the Trion on a 7' MF Compre. I haven't tried an unweighted worm since I got it back from DVT. Maybe all it needed was a cleaning to be successful with that bait. Will have to give it a try. I admit that my feel for sensitivity leaves something to be desired. I have read other opinions that stated the same thing about braid and slack, so thought maybe it wasn't all me. Guess it is. Yes, the first thing I do is reel up slack unless waiting for it to hit bottom. Most of my braid use is limited to Florida where I am pulling the worm through heavy cover, so it is under constant tension. However, if trying to fish off the bottom locally, then I'm never sure if I have tension during the pauses. I suppose that is mainly due to my lack of feel. Quote
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