duckhunter185 Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 So found tons of shad but not catching any fish. Ive used t-rigged worms, jigs, shallow crankbaits, lipless crankbaits, and spinnerbaits. The water is about 80 degrees. Any ideas? Thanks Quote
bonzai22 Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 Try pitching a white football jig at the cover close to the shad. 1 Quote
Koofy Smacker Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 Rule #1 I follow is once you find the shad - DONT fish the shad. Fish around them, within 50-75 yards. Fishing the shad themselves can get them all spooky and they can disappear and then your really out of luck. Fish the cover around them. Weeds, trees, rocks etc. Bass are ambush predators and will sit and wait for shad to pass to strike. Get to them before the shad do and youll get a lot more bites. 1 Quote
duckhunter185 Posted August 26, 2013 Author Posted August 26, 2013 Not much cover where Im fishing. Some rocks and bridges Quote
derekxec Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 fish a bit away from the school and make the bait look injured 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted August 26, 2013 Super User Posted August 26, 2013 Getting a lot of mixed messages! How did you find the shad, visually or sonar? And what time of the day, early morning or mid day? When shad are hiding in cover during low light periods you watch for feeding activity. Bass can be very selective when feeding on shad, sometimes only live shad will work. When the shad are schooled in a ball during mid day, it's because they are being pursued by predators like bass. When you see this it's usually best to use structure spoons when the shad school approaches areas where the structure creates a compression zone; deeper water getting shallower; hump or point. Search the site for spoon fishing presentations. Tom 2 Quote
BuckMaxx Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 I struggle a lot with the same scenario. I have begn to fish structure as near but not in the school. The bass actively feeding will not look twice at what might be a shade over the real deal swimming ifront of there face. There is a good article in the new BASS magazine about this very thing. 1 Quote
JayKumar Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 Try under the school and around the first cover or structure near the school. 1 Quote
Chris Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 One school of thought is to find ambush points where bass can pin up the bait. Bass tend to gang up in areas where they can ambush prey like the bridge itself the rocks you spoke of, points, humps, etc. These bass don't actively chase around the shad and set themselves up in the high percentage area and wait for the opportunity to feed. The second is fish the bait if you find active bass chasing the shad on your graph or when they push the shad to the surface. Bass do use the surface itself as a barrier to ambush shad. Most of the time unless there is something else structure or cover wise these bass will be schoolers who do follow the school and feed from time to time. Because they are moving with the school it is a timing deal...be at the right place at the right time when the bass are active enough to push the shad and feed....otherwise you don't cash in. 1 Quote
duckhunter185 Posted August 26, 2013 Author Posted August 26, 2013 Getting a lot of mixed messages! How did you find the shad, visually or sonar? And what time of the day, early morning or mid day? When shad are hiding in cover during low light periods you watch for feeding activity. Bass can be very selective when feeding on shad, sometimes only live shad will work. When the shad are schooled in a ball during mid day, it's because they are being pursued by predators like bass. When you see this it's usually best to use structure spoons when the shad school approaches areas where the structure creates a compression zone; deeper water getting shallower; hump or point. Search the site for spoon fishing presentations. Tom Quote
duckhunter185 Posted August 26, 2013 Author Posted August 26, 2013 Getting a lot of mixed messages! How did you find the shad, visually or sonar? And what time of the day, early morning or mid day? When shad are hiding in cover during low light periods you watch for feeding activity. Bass can be very selective when feeding on shad, sometimes only live shad will work. When the shad are schooled in a ball during mid day, it's because they are being pursued by predators like bass. When you see this it's usually best to use structure spoons when the shad school approaches areas where the structure creates a compression zone; deeper water getting shallower; hump or point. Search the site for spoon fishing presentations. Tom I have found them both visually and on my sonar. ive been fhshing early to late mornings. The shad have been grouped up on top a lot. I will get some spoons. Whats the best foe muddy water? Quote
duckhunter185 Posted August 26, 2013 Author Posted August 26, 2013 caught plenty of striped bass just no largemouth Quote
Nice_Bass Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 caught plenty of striped bass just no largemouth What lake? Quote
duckhunter185 Posted August 27, 2013 Author Posted August 27, 2013 Im going to Clinton Thursday and Friday. Gonna fish the north fork and maybe the west access side if its not too busy. Quote
Super User WRB Posted August 27, 2013 Super User Posted August 27, 2013 I like 3/4 oz pearl white or pearl/ chartreuse structure spoons with size 2 white/charteuse feathered Owner treble hook. Check TW for Duh spoons or similar profile. I like to make loop cast to lob the spoon so it makes a softer landing the far side of the shad school and let the spoon pendulum down through the shad school on controlled slack line, set the hook if the line stops. Yo yo the spoon back at the depth slightly below the school depth. Tom Quote
Nice_Bass Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 Im going to Clinton Thursday and Friday. Gonna fish the north fork and maybe the west access side if its not too busy. Wont be too busy- Thursday and Friday nights are usually when I head there and I almost have the lake to myself- especially now that schools have started. Quote
duckhunter185 Posted August 28, 2013 Author Posted August 28, 2013 Thanks guys. I got some spoons today and some rebel pop-rs. Gonna try some new tactics. Thanks for all the advice! Quote
merc1997 Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 So found tons of shad but not catching any fish. Ive used t-rigged worms, jigs, shallow crankbaits, lipless crankbaits, and spinnerbaits. The water is about 80 degrees. Any ideas? Thanks one of the best bassers ever born by the name of glen andrews had a very good saying about your delema. he stated, "you will find bait without bass, but you will never find bass without bait." with that said, it is possible that you have located a bunch of shad that for whatever reason there just is not any bass around yet. bo Quote
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