Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 I figured I would share my own dog tale from last night. One set of my sister in laws is a animal fanatic. They got a 60 lb Doberman they rescued a couple years ago. I hate this dog. I hate the breed in general, but this one in particular stands out. Dang dog kept snarling at my son. Evettime he would walk by her. My brother in law would shout her down and she would skulk off. We were sitting on the porch and my boy comes walking back up. Well dang dogs lets out a big growl. I reached over and jacked that dog in the jaw. She squealed and put her head between her legs. I ain't putting up with a dang lippy dog growling at my son. Rest of the night she would cower anytime my boy walked by. I told my sister in law she better cage that dog when my son is there. Otherwise I'm gonna bring Mayday, the 95lb APBT that is EXTREMELY protective of my son over from my buddies house. Basically give him his own furry body guard when hanging out there. Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 The problem with rescue dogs, esp the breeds that by nature are more aggressive, is you don't know what kind of baggage they have from the past. A friend of mine was bitten badly by a rescued German Sheppard that appeared to be friendly and well adjusted. No apparent reason, just mauled him while he was walking across his living room. The dog belonged to his daughter and two grandkids, and had been well behaved for the couple of weeks they had it. It will not bite anyone else.  I think your reaction to the dog growling at your son was a reasonable response. I would not allow it, and I would not put a child anywhere close to that animal. Quote
Super User MCS Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 Yep, I would have done the same thing. I believe people that own a protection breed should keep the animal away from a potentially dangerous situation. My Am bulldog pup that I gave to a buddy has grown into a fine home protector and family friend to his family. My buddy crates the dog when strangers come over because he knows, the dog is weary of unfamiliar people and barks/growls if they get too close to him or the kids......  Mayday....Nice! your buddy a fan of southern kennels LOL Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted August 20, 2013 Author Super User Posted August 20, 2013 Yep, I would have done the same thing. I believe people that own a protection breed should keep the animal away from a potentially dangerous situation. My Am bulldog pup that I gave to a buddy has grown into a fine home protector and family friend to his family. My buddy crates the dog when strangers come over because he knows, the dog is weary of unfamiliar people and barks/growls if they get too close to him or the kids......  Mayday....Nice! your buddy a fan of southern kennels LOL I named her. She was my dog for her first year and 6 months on earth. Someone at our condo complex has a problem with me, and took it out on my dog. Basically they complained about her and i had to get rid of her. I got her name from a song i used to listen to. Once we get a house in a few years I'm getting another one. Either another APBT or a Staffordshire Terrier. I'm thinking of naming her Nakita or Midway. Aint decided yet. Quote
Super User MCS Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 I named her. She was my dog for her first year and 6 months on earth. Someone at our condo complex has a problem with me, and took it out on my dog. Basically they complained about her and i had to get rid of her. I got her name from a song i used to listen to. Once we get a house in a few years I'm getting another one. Either another APBT or a Staffordshire Terrier. I'm thinking of naming her Nakita or Midway. Aint decided yet. Â Lucky mine has "Lab mix" on the paper work from Animal Control. But she is hot enough that I try to walk her real early and real late, out of the neighbors eyes and her view of other animals. But they are great dogs with the family and to hunt with....It is a hassle sometimes with all the misinformation and hate. My next one will be a catahoula or florida cur or american bulldog. I wanna old southern white really bad. But I hope that is years down the road, my girl, Daisy Dukes is her name, is only 3 or 4 yrs old. Quote
Super User AK-Jax86 Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 I've been around Pitbulls, Rottweillers, and Dobermens they are all good dogs if treated right and if NOT watch out! You said that was a rescue dog the worse thing you could have done was hit it not being the owner. My buddy did the same thing to my friends Pitbull. Like you said after that the dog was weary of him and wouldn't want to be around when he was there. About 3 months go by same thing the dog was never around him. One day at a BBQ dog was sitting by the pool my friend walks in and was talking to some friends and the pitbull saw him and snapped latched onto his arm and took the owner and few other people to get him off and calm it down. Long story short that dog may or may not act out towards you or even your son. Dogs that have been rescued r abused aren't normal they react differently. My friend who got attacked made a joke te next day that the dog must have remembered when he hit him and took the dog 3 months to muster up enough courage, anger, frustration, revenge whatever u want to call it. But after all that time of him being around and the dog seeing him and wanting no part of the area he was in it was weird that out of nowhere the real pitbull came out. Quote
Super User AK-Jax86 Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 You title says aint nothing worse well I can think of something a lot worse if that dog decides to act out and sees you or your son as a threat, after all they are just animals tey can't communicate their feelings towards you with words hence why the bark, growl, whimper, whatever 1 Quote
Super User MCS Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 I've been around Pitbulls, Rottweillers, and Dobermens they are all good dogs if treated right and if NOT watch out! You said that was a rescue dog the worse thing you could have done was hit it not being the owner. My buddy did the same thing to my friends Pitbull. Like you said after that the dog was weary of him and wouldn't want to be around when he was there. About 3 months go by same thing the dog was never around him. One day at a BBQ dog was sitting by the pool my friend walks in and was talking to some friends and the pitbull saw him and snapped latched onto his arm and took the owner and few other people to get him off and calm it down. Long story short that dog may or may not act out towards you or even your son. Dogs that have been rescued r abused aren't normal they react differently. My friend who got attacked made a joke te next day that the dog must have remembered when he hit him and took the dog 3 months to muster up enough courage, anger, frustration, revenge whatever u want to call it. But after all that time of him being around and the dog seeing him and wanting no part of the area he was in it was weird that out of nowhere the real pitbull came out.  Aint no excuse especially a bulldog, or any non protection breed for that matter, should go for a human being, that is a cull right there. But how "pitbulls" are bred today not surprising.....Sounds like your buddy needs to invest in a breakstick. Quote
Super User Sam Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 Hate to say it, but I would write off my sister's home as a place to visit unless the dog is penned or fenced in. Â That is a big dog and if she went after your son she would win. Quote
Super User AK-Jax86 Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 Aint no excuse especially a bulldog, or any non protection breed for that matter, should go for a human being, that is a cull right there. But how "pitbulls" are bred today not surprising.....Sounds like your buddy needs to invest in a breakstick. Yea have to admit the owner was the typical pitbull owner if you catch my drift. And I know him and a few of his boys were about that life... You can read inbetween the lines. Me I don't get down like that I am a dog lover and could never imagine going to or participating in anything like that... It's ironic that Mike Vick is my favorite football player When I was in NJ I had a blue nose pit that I got from my buddy who breeds em for the wrong reasons. I was skeptical because of the parents I figured if those dogs were a part of that life then maybe the puppies would genetically be aggressive. Let me tell you that our dog Roxi was like a yellow lab! The most loving and caring dog ever and being a pitbull I was surprised. She has never bite anyone or even showed a ounce of aggression. It goes to show that in the right environment and the right care Pitbulls can be loving and caring and not angry and aggressive like the bad wrap they get. Quote
Super User AK-Jax86 Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 I got a bunch of pitbull stories both good and bad. My one friend had a red nose pitbull that was rescued. Little history about the dog. Torq was got when he was a puppy by my friend Shannon, she is white. Her boyfriend at the time was black and he was abusive to her and the dog. He would take the dog and wrap it in sheets and beat it, burn the dogs paws, and a bunch of other f'ed up stuff (I didn't know her back then because if I did me and my boys would have made him feel like he made his girlfriend and he dog feel!!!!!!!). He ended up going to jail for robbery or something after a little less than 2 years wit Shannon. Shannon moved from where she was living, urban, to manasquan which is a beach town. So basically all of Shannon's friends were white. Whenever the dog would see a black person the stereotypical pitbull would come out the scariest thing I have EVER SEEN, I will elaborate on that later. So I go to Shannon's house, not knowin about the racist dog and it's racism is justified, I walk in and Torq goes nuts. Shannon takes him and puts him in her room and the dog is clawing barking slamming against the door trying to get out and kill me! We all left and she explained the story behind Torqs racism lol. Everytime I would go over there she would put Torq away before I got there. One day there was a little altercation outside and the dog was in the window watching. Shannon was in an arguement with her BF, it's irrelevant but he was white, he put his hands on her and then I grabbed him threw him back and me and other let him know we ain't down with that. (Torq was watching). One day I go to her house, she knew I was comin so I ignited Torq was on lock down. I walk into the house and see this massive red nose pit staring at me growling my heart dropped! He charges at me her friend yells NOOO lol and he lunges at me and starts licking me!!! I thought I was going to die Shannon walked out in her towel and couldn't believe what she was seeing. After that day it was like Martin Luther King dream speech lol black people and Torq mingling freely in Shannon's house. I thought that was a funny story so I decided to share. Hopefully no one takes this the wrong way Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted August 20, 2013 Author Super User Posted August 20, 2013 I've been around Pitbulls, Rottweillers, and Dobermens they are all good dogs if treated right and if NOT watch out! You said that was a rescue dog the worse thing you could have done was hit it not being the owner. My buddy did the same thing to my friends Pitbull. Like you said after that the dog was weary of him and wouldn't want to be around when he was there. About 3 months go by same thing the dog was never around him. One day at a BBQ dog was sitting by the pool my friend walks in and was talking to some friends and the pitbull saw him and snapped latched onto his arm and took the owner and few other people to get him off and calm it down. Long story short that dog may or may not act out towards you or even your son. Dogs that have been rescued r abused aren't normal they react differently. My friend who got attacked made a joke te next day that the dog must have remembered when he hit him and took the dog 3 months to muster up enough courage, anger, frustration, revenge whatever u want to call it. But after all that time of him being around and the dog seeing him and wanting no part of the area he was in it was weird that out of nowhere the real pitbull came out. The dog was being given away because it attacked one of its previous owners dogs. That was strike one for me. It being dominant towards other dogs was strike two. I have no use for a runt protection dog that has a chip on its shoulder. Strike three was acting out towards my son. I've already told them today I better not see that dog outside or near my boy when we are over there. They know how my attitude and temper can be. I have no qualms about snuffing that dog. That dog may be bad, but I'm a helluva lot badder. My wife told them that we are bringing my old dog over there next time she babysits my son. She IS the alpha female as far as other dogs go. I've seen her break a dang 2x4. At a year old she ate a bowling bowl I had given her as a chew toy. That Doberman can't handle something that knows how to lock and shake. Yet another reason its gonna be kept in its crate while she is there. Quote
Super User MCS Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 Yea have to admit the owner was the typical pitbull owner if you catch my drift. And I know him and a few of his boys were about that life... You can read inbetween the lines. Me I don't get down like that I am a dog lover and could never imagine going to or participating in anything like that... It's ironic that Mike Vick is my favorite football player When I was in NJ I had a blue nose pit that I got from my buddy who breeds em for the wrong reasons. I was skeptical because of the parents I figured if those dogs were a part of that life then maybe the puppies would genetically be aggressive. Let me tell you that our dog Roxi was like a yellow lab! The most loving and caring dog ever and being a pitbull I was surprised. She has never bite anyone or even showed a ounce of aggression. It goes to show that in the right environment and the right care Pitbulls can be loving and caring and not angry and aggressive like the bad wrap they get.  Well not to be rude, but neither you or your buddy really know anything about apbts. And from the sounds of it, they are far from that life, they have no clue, they wanted to be that life maybe because of they think that is cool. Lucky they didn't have any well bred animals but folks like that only drag the breed through the mud.  apbts are one of the most human friendly, tolerant breeds you can have....if they are bred right. Now most that garbage out there one calls a "pitbull" are just mutts that are really american bullies which are apbts mixed with EBs, ABs, Mastiffs for color and head size etc and red nose and blue nose are just colors not lines LOL....not my cup of tea if you know what I mean. I prefer a lean mean hard charging machine LOL Quote
Super User AK-Jax86 Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 The dog was being given away because it attacked one of its previous owners dogs. That was strike one for me. It being dominant towards other dogs was strike two. I have no use for a runt protection dog that has a chip on its shoulder. Strike three was acting out towards my son. I've already told them today I better not see that dog outside or near my boy when we are over there. They know how my attitude and temper can be. I have no qualms about snuffing that dog. That dog may be bad, but I'm a helluva lot badder. My wife told them that we are bringing my old dog over there next time she babysits my son. She IS the alpha female as far as other dogs go. I've seen her break a dang 2x4. At a year old she ate a bowling bowl I had given her as a chew toy. That Doberman can't handle something that knows how to lock and shake. Yet another reason its gonna be kept in its crate while she is there. Yea man if a dog attacked a human once it will do it again bad news right there Quote
Super User AK-Jax86 Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 Well not to be rude, but neither you or your buddy really know anything about apbts. And from the sounds of it, they are far from that life, they have no clue, they wanted to be that life maybe because of they think that is cool. Lucky they didn't have any well bred animals but folks like that only drag the breed through the mud.  apbts are one of the most human friendly, tolerant breeds you can have....if they are bred right. Now most that garbage out there one calls a "pitbull" are just mutts that are really american bullies which are apbts mixed with EBs, ABs, Mastiffs for color and head size etc and red nose and blue nose are just colors not lines LOL....not my cup of tea if you know what I mean. I prefer a lean mean hard charging machine LOL Trust me the dogs I have been around would make a majority of the dogs you've been around look like the Taco Bell dog. People "about that life" breed em strictly to fight and when their time is up their time is really up. Some of these dogs look like they were involved in biogenesis scandal. IMO Pitbulls are the most loyal and one of the smartest dogs out there. We dont even need to mention loyalty I don't think there is a more loyal dog out there. But your lean mean hard charging machine wouldn't stand a chance against these "watered down dogs" lol. It's just that... Your parents could be athletes and you could be 6'11" but doesn't mean you can play basketball, but if you are not 6'11" and your parents weren't athletes but basically beat basketball into you and made you into what you are today... Who has a better shot the pure bred athlete or the "other athlete" who has forced to e bout that life lol. I just don't see the attraction of having an aggressive dog that you need to assert your dominance over. At the end of the day it's a dog and you are a human you are suppose to be superior. You want to assert your dominance over something aggressive get a permit and get a lion or tiger try treating that like some of these people treat Pits. I would say that to all my boys who were "bout that life" Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted August 20, 2013 Author Super User Posted August 20, 2013 Yea man if a dog attacked a human once it will do it again bad news right there You misread that. The dog attacked the owners other dog. She never bit anyone as of yet. Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted August 20, 2013 Author Super User Posted August 20, 2013 Trust me the dogs I have been around would make a majority of the dogs you've been around look like the Taco Bell dog. People "about that life" breed em strictly to fight and when their time is up their time is really up. Some of these dogs look like they were involved in biogenesis scandal. IMO Pitbulls are the most loyal and one of the smartest dogs out there. We dont even need to mention loyalty I don't think there is a more loyal dog out there. But your lean mean hard charging machine wouldn't stand a chance against these "watered down dogs" lol. It's just that... Your parents could be athletes and you could be 6'11" but doesn't mean you can play basketball, but if you are not 6'11" and your parents weren't athletes but basically beat basketball into you and made you into what you are today... Who has a better shot the pure bred athlete or the "other athlete" who has forced to e bout that life lol. I just don't see the attraction of having an aggressive dog that you need to assert your dominance over. At the end of the day it's a dog and you are a human you are suppose to be superior. You want to assert your dominance over something aggressive get a permit and get a lion or tiger try treating that like some of these people treat Pits. I would say that to all my boys who were "bout that life" I know the dogs you are talking about. We used to own one named Julie (after my ex), when I was in college. She was a dang inbreaded psychopath, least as far as dogs went. She couldnt get within a foot of another dog without going nuts. She loved people but could not stand other dogs. She ended up killing a rottweiler that got loose one day and we had to put her down. She was a purebred Staffordshire with the purest German bloodlines you could imagine. Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted August 20, 2013 Author Super User Posted August 20, 2013 As I have said before. I have no use for a dog that is people aggressive. Especially around my family. 2 Quote
Super User MCS Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 Trust me the dogs I have been around would make a majority of the dogs you've been around look like the Taco Bell dog. People "about that life" breed em strictly to fight and when their time is up their time is really up. Some of these dogs look like they were involved in biogenesis scandal. IMO Pitbulls are the most loyal and one of the smartest dogs out there. We dont even need to mention loyalty I don't think there is a more loyal dog out there. But your lean mean hard charging machine wouldn't stand a chance against these "watered down dogs" lol. It's just that... Your parents could be athletes and you could be 6'11" but doesn't mean you can play basketball, but if you are not 6'11" and your parents weren't athletes but basically beat basketball into you and made you into what you are today... Who has a better shot the pure bred athlete or the "other athlete" who has forced to e bout that life lol. I just don't see the attraction of having an aggressive dog that you need to assert your dominance over. At the end of the day it's a dog and you are a human you are suppose to be superior. You want to assert your dominance over something aggressive get a permit and get a lion or tiger try treating that like some of these people treat Pits. I would say that to all my boys who were "bout that life"  SMH....I will let you have last word. No point in trying the make the blind see the light. Let me guess these world beaters were 90 pounds and had 36 inch heads. LOL Way you speak of your boys treating a dog is probably why they bite people. Quote
Super User AK-Jax86 Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 As I have said before. I have no use for a dog that is people aggressive. Especially around my family. Agreed especially around your children!!! If me or my wife were bite by a dog not really a big deal but if it were my child! My son is 14 months and he loves dogs, If a dog ever attacked him god help that dog and its owner I don't think I would be able to control my emotions 1 Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted August 20, 2013 Author Super User Posted August 20, 2013 Agreed especially around your children!!! If me or my wife were bite by a dog not really a big deal but if it were my child! My son is 14 months and he loves dogs, If a dog ever attacked him god help that dog and its owner I don't think I would be able to control my emotions I know I couldnt. Thats why we are being proactive. 2 Quote
Super User AK-Jax86 Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 SMH....I will let you have last word. No point in trying the make the blind see the light. Let me guess these world beaters were 90 pounds and had 36 inch heads. LOL Way you speak of your boys treating a dog is probably why they bite people. One of my ex girlfriends was bite by a yellow lab who was from a loving home and treated right. I wasn't trying to argue with you or say you were wrong I was just saying a dog bred and forced to fight would destroy ANY dog that's not. Regardless of blood line, color, pure or not They were big steroid looking dogs. But your right the way they treated em is EXACTLY why they bite people tey were scum bags. I have only seen a few things that they did but when the whole Mike Vick thing happened I watched a documentary about dog fighting and I could not believe the things that I saw them do to dogs to get then aggressive and willing to fight its disturbing Quote
Super User AK-Jax86 Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 I can deal with dogs because I am a dog lover BUT I absolutely HATE cats!! Lol I don't know but cats always seem like they are plotting against you I can't stad cats Quote
Super User MCS Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 One of my ex girlfriends was bite by a yellow lab who was from a loving home and treated right. I wasn't trying to argue with you or say you were wrong I was just saying a dog bred and forced to fight would destroy ANY dog that's not. Regardless of blood line, color, pure or not They were big steroid looking dogs. But your right the way they treated em is EXACTLY why they bite people tey were scum bags. I have only seen a few things that they did but when the whole Mike Vick thing happened I watched a documentary about dog fighting and I could not believe the things that I saw them do to dogs to get then aggressive and willing to fight its disturbing  We are good man...I see what you mean, I was heading down a different path man only a true bulldog fancier would understand me.  I agree cats are the worst....you ever see the comedian john kaparilla....he says my apartment won't allow dogs. his buddy says get a cat....he says well why don't I just start kissing dude. LMAO 1 Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 I figured I would share my own dog tale from last night. One set of my sister in laws is a animal fanatic. They got a 60 lb Doberman they rescued a couple years ago. I hate this dog. I hate the breed in general, but this one in particular stands out. Dang dog kept snarling at my son. Evettime he would walk by her. My brother in law would shout her down and she would skulk off. We were sitting on the porch and my boy comes walking back up. Well dang dogs lets out a big growl. I reached over and jacked that dog in the jaw. She squealed and put her head between her legs. I ain't putting up with a dang lippy dog growling at my son. Rest of the night she would cower anytime my boy walked by. I told my sister in law she better cage that dog when my son is there. Otherwise I'm gonna bring Mayday, the 95lb APBT that is EXTREMELY protective of my son over from my buddies house. Basically give him his own furry body guard when hanging out there. Feed him a jig. 2 Quote
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