Time To Stir The Pot!

[Sam]

Sounds like your reading comprehension is lacking.  The SEC gets a collective share of the profits in bowl games.  Many millions of dollars are shared amongst SEC teams when they go bowling, and many more millions are shared when they win. That reason alone is enough to cheer for your fellow conference teams.

 

$EC $EC $EC $EC $EC $EC $EC

 

Enough said!

[Raider Nation Fisher]

$EC $EC $EC $EC $EC $EC $EC

 

Enough said!

AUBURN AUBURN AUBURN AUBURN AUBURN AUBURN AUBURN

Enough said!

[jbsoonerfan]

Sounds like your reading comprehension is lacking.  The SEC gets a collective share of the profits in bowl games.  Many millions of dollars are shared amongst SEC teams when they go bowling, and many more millions are shared when they win. That reason alone is enough to cheer for your fellow conference teams.

 

Do you actually have a favorite team, or do you just cheer for the SEC?

[Catt]

I cheer for any SEC team that is playing oh I don't know let's say OU.

Now when Bama comes to Death Valley I hate em!

If they Big12 had stuck together, had a championship winning conference that didn't try to rely on history they could have the same deal.

That attitude of individualism cost every other conference money, refusing to play defense cost y'all championships (bargaining power)

[jbsoonerfan]

Yep, OU got caught up in the trend of trying to out score opponents when they should have known better.

 

High power offenses might win 10 games a year, but good solid defense is what will win a NC.

 

The 2000 OU team was the best defense OU had seen since the 80's. However, after that year with the likes of TT, OSU, Baylor, even Texas to some degree going to more spread style offenses OU went to a so-called "faster" style defense to help stop these type offenses. That's all well and good in league play, but it's been proven time and time again that in the NC you better be able to run the ball and stop the run if you want to win. 

[aquaholic]

I cheer for any SEC team that is playing oh I don't know let's say OU.

Now when Bama comes to Death Valley I hate em!

If they Big12 had stuck together, had a championship winning conference that didn't try to rely on history they could have the same deal.

That attitude of individualism cost every other conference money, refusing to play defense cost y'all championships (bargaining power)

Notre Dame has the second most national championships, and the most Heisman winners in all of college football. No conference needed. 

[SDoolittle]

I have nothing against the SEC as a conference. I have nothing against the individual teams in the SEC. I respect the accomplishments of teams like Alabama, LSU, and Florida. (Notice I didn't mention Auburn?) My problem is the way the bottom half of the SEC somehow looks better because they are in the SEC.

 

A perfect example of this happened when Okie State beat Mississippi State. The commentators couldn't shut up about how this quality win over an SEC opponent would help OSU out in the strength of schedule department of the BCS. Their other two nonconference games are UTSA (Conf-USA) and Lamar (FCS). How in the world does adding a mediocre SEC team give them a strong strength of schedule? Teams like OU, Texas, Baylor, and TCU will be a much tougher test for the Pokes, but somehow they will still get more credit for beating an unranked team from the Southeastern Conference.

 

Conference affiliation will not make a QB throw better. It won't make an LB tackle harder. It won't make a coach call better plays.

[Catt]

Notre Dame is a prime example of tring to live on their history. Every sports network in the nation could not stop talking about how ND was going to teach the SEC how to play smash mouth football. We all saw how playing a weak schedule and history got them.

Princeston hands down has more national championships than anyone ever but where they now?

[roadwarrior]

Seems to me the proof is in the pudding. Strong conferences attract better talent across the board, but

especially coaching.

[Fish_Whisperer]

Do you actually have a favorite team, or do you just cheer for the SEC?

S. Carolina.

[jbsoonerfan]

Oh, no wonder you cheer for the conference. The only chance you have to be apart of a NC.

[GaBankFisher]

I don't see what's wrong with having conference pride.  Ok...not everyone else feels that way...fine.  But what's "third grade" about that?  I'm a huge fan of an SEC team that's currently a little down (but with a very rich/successful history).  I'm proud of the fact that my team is in the toughest conference.  7-5 in the SEC with losses coming against Bama, SC, UF, LSU, and UGA is a little different than 7-5 most other conferences (in most other years).  It IS the toughest conference, well beyond the top 2-3 teams.  I don't see how anyone could dispute that for recent years.   What's the big deal? 

[GaBankFisher]

Seems to me the proof is in the pudding. Strong conferences attract better talent across the board, but

especially coaching.

Excellent point

[GaBankFisher]

That is exactly why everyone hates the sec. You somehow think that other teams winning a national championship is somehow a win for you. Lsu lost their bowl game. Sec fans also only recognize the last 10 years of national championships.  The records go further back than that.  

I don't think any of that is true, unless you know how we really feel, and we don't.  I don't think I've ever met a single SEC fan who thinks any SEC NC is a NC for all other schools.  And, I don't know any SEC fans who think that only the last 10 years count.  But, I would rather have last year's NC than one from 63 years ago.  It's just conference, or maybe regional pride.  Kinda like being proud of growing up in a tough neighborhood or something.

[SDoolittle]

7-5 in the SEC with losses coming against Bama, SC, UF, LSU, and UGA is a little different than 7-5 most other conferences (in most other years). 

 

This is just the kind of nonsense that I was talking about. If your seven wins were against the likes of Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, Ole Miss, and a few nonconference powderpuffs, I'm not impressed. Going undefeated in the SEC might be more impressive than going undefeated in some other conferences. Going 7-5 is not.

[Fish_Whisperer]

Oh, no wonder you cheer for the conference. The only chance you have to be apart of a NC.

Butthurt much?

[jbsoonerfan]

Not at all. Just stating the obvious.

[Fish_Whisperer]

Believe what you like. I love my university, and being in the SEC not only helps the program, but the university as a whole. I cheer for SEC brethren because the SEC participates in collective sharing of post season profits.

 

http://blog.al.com/press-register-sports/2009/05/sec_announces_record_revenue_s.html

 

For the 19th consecutive year, the SEC announced a record in revenue sharing at the end of its annual spring meetings here today. The league will distribute about $132.5 million to its 12 member institutions via its revenue sharing plan for the 2008-09 fiscal year.

The figure represents a 4 percent increase from last year's $127.6 million distribution. The average amount distributed to each school is $11.1 million.

That was for 2008-09.  That figure has increased immensely since then.  

[Fish_Whisperer]

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/5/31/4383972/sec-revenue-sharing-schedule

 

 

 

The SEC released its revenue sharing information on Friday, and the conference split a record total of $289.4 million between the conference's 14 members,according to ESPN's Brett McMurphy. That total breaks down to $20.7 million per school, a number that will significantly increase once the SEC Network hits the airwaves in 2014.

Most recent figure.  

[jbsoonerfan]

Big 12 was 262 million or 26.2 mil per school.

[Chris at Tech]

Believe what you like. I love my university, and being in the SEC not only helps the program, but the university as a whole. I cheer for SEC brethren because the SEC participates in collective sharing of post season profits.

I wrestle with this point quite frequently...

Are sports profits really helping schools (as opposed to just the school's athletic dept)? If so, how?

[Fish_Whisperer]

Big 12 was 262 million or 26.2 mil per school.

Correct, with less teams than the SEC.

[Fish_Whisperer]

I wrestle with this point quite frequently...

Are sports profits really helping schools (as opposed to just the school's athletic dept)? If so, how?

Well, profits from the athletic dept funded a couple of academic centers for South Carolina.  Our previous AD (now texas a&m's) developed a long term, master plan a few years back that once fulfilled, will improve all facets of the university tremendously.  The funding for the master plan? Centered around athletic revenue.

[Fish_Whisperer]

One of my first posts stated post season revenue.  The figures I gave were from total season minus bowl revenue. Here is the 2011 SEC Bowl revenue sharing map...

 

As you can see, even non bowl eligible SEC teams still benefit from SEC success as a whole.

[GaBankFisher]

This is just the kind of nonsense that I was talking about. If your seven wins were against the likes of Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, Ole Miss, and a few nonconference powderpuffs, I'm not impressed. Going undefeated in the SEC might be more impressive than going undefeated in some other conferences. Going 7-5 is not.

I don't disagree with your comment (other than calling mine nonsense).  I'll just say that my Vols have Bama, Oregon, SC, UF, and GA in the next 7 weeks.  That's pretty dang tough.  West Virginia has a VERY tough schedule too.  But the Vols play 5 teams that are ranked higher than anyone on the Mountaineers schedule.  That's what many SEC teams face every year.

 

Is going 7-5 with 5 losses coming against top 11 teams different than 7-5 against a lesser schedule?  I'm not overly emotional about any of this...I also like non-SEC schools with very respectable coaches, teams with a lot of heart/character (e.g. Penn State last year), overachievers (Boise St.), etc.