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[Grizzn N Bassin]

so I went night fishing with my new g loomis g2 jig rod.... went to cast and started working my jig back and I heard some rattling going on near the tip.. some how the on the second eyelet the guide fell out? I think that's what its called anyway.. its brand a new rod!!!  should I try and pop it back in or take it back?

[rockchalk06]

so I went night fishing with my new g loomis g2 jig rod.... went to cast and started working my jig back and I heard some rattling going on near the tip.. some how the on the second eyelet the guide fell out? I think that's what its called anyway.. its brand a new rod!!!  should I try and pop it back in or take it back?

 

 

Take it back. It very well could have been loose in the store, been buggered etc and you didn't notice it until it fell out. I have two and have been using them solid for a year, its not a common issue with them. Since its new, you should have no problem taking it back

[SirSnookalot]

If it's fairly new take it back.  I'm assuming the insert fell out, it happens.  When it does many times I have crack in the guide, usually do to the environment I fish in.  I would most likely replace the entire guide, inexpensive and a quick repair.

[tomustang]

Someone was probably playing with it in store and popped it out

[Grizzn N Bassin]

that's what I figured I haven't had very long, so I'm going to take it back in a few hours

[S Hovanec]

Yet another reason to not buy rods off the rack at a store. I've seen the way they are handled from receiving up until point of purchase. Kids swordfighting is my favorite..... and the rods are put right back like nothing happened.

[Grizzn N Bassin]

well I ended up getting a abu Garcia veritas 7'6 M/H they had a brand one new that they didn't put out on the rack.. I have my mgx on there its a pretty good set up 

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

In this case exchange the rod. For future reference, the correct way to do this repair is to replace the guide.

[dodgeguy]

isn't it warranty ?

[Matt Jungblut]

isn't it warranty ?

thats one of the funniest things i have read in a while. New rod so just take it back. Warranty covers breakage not guide inserts falling out. You have to send the rod in for warranty work and that isnt very practicle.

[dodgeguy]

a guide falling out is a broken rod.if it's new it should be exchanged under warranty.

[S Hovanec]

It amazes me how many people will spend $25 and up plus the warranty charge to ship a rod back with a broken guide. For typically < $10, it can be fixed BETTER than new by a local builder. The more returns for minor things, the higher the prices of rods become.

[basshavoc]

well I ended up getting a abu Garcia veritas 7'6 M/H they had a brand one new that they didn't put out on the rack.. I have my mgx on there its a pretty good set up 

Thats good, Abu Veritas are great rods

[Grizzn N Bassin]

In this case exchange the rod. For future reference, the correct way to do this repair is to replace the guide.

No i dont think thats the correct way.... With a 4 week old rod i dont want it to have any problems with it, and I'm not going to repair a high end rod. Maybe on one of my old rod i had for a few year that gets used a few hundred times per year with countless hours sure id do that.. not on a brand new GL...

[Grizzn N Bassin]

Thats good, Abu Veritas are great rods

i like it alot !!

[Grizzn N Bassin]

It amazes me how many people will spend $25 and up plus the warranty charge to ship a rod back with a broken guide. For typically < $10, it can be fixed BETTER than new by a local builder. The more returns for minor things, the higher the prices of rods become.

i dont have any local rod buiders that i know of,.. even if i did i would not pay for on a new rod.   next time i have a problem will you pay S/h and fix it for free so they dont mark  up the prices?

[SirSnookalot]

I agree with S. Hovanec, for a few dollars it isn't worth packing up a rod and paying for the shipping.  A local can have it back in your hands in a day or two, tips right on the spot.

[Grizzn N Bassin]

i just dont see why you should have to fix a new rod that costs over $200... 

[Capt.Bob]

No i dont think thats the correct way.... With a 4 week old rod i dont want it to have any problems with it, and I'm not going to repair a high end rod. Maybe on one of my old rod i had for a few year that gets used a few hundred times per year with countless hours sure id do that.. not on a brand new GL...

 

 

It amazes me how many people will spend $25 and up plus the warranty charge to ship a rod back with a broken guide. For typically < $10, it can be fixed BETTER than new by a local builder. The more returns for minor things, the higher the prices of rods become.

S Hovanec is 100% correct!!! The rod fixed and sent back from the factory is probably not as good as a rod fixed by a good skilled custom rod builder!!! They don't work for a company and get paid by the hour, and I know the one I use is as skilled as any builder in any factory!!! My Legend Elite which I dropped on a rock cracked a concept guide insert, I not only had the exact same insert replaced, with the same thread, but actually had to waite a week to get it so he could by the thread wrap from St Croix so it was an exact match, and cost me $12.00 I can't ship it for that cost and that ius exactly what any factory is going to do. They don't send you a new rod, they do exactly what my custom builder did, only you pay over 20 bucks in shipping for them to do it!!!! To this day you cant tell a guide was ever replaced!!!

 

In your case you chose to exchange the rod, and the place you bought it did that for you. Many places will not, you have to send it in on your dime and the company wioll fix it,,,,NOT,,,, replace it, the same thing a skilled rod builder does!! and anytime you choose that option, you are making a mistake, and it's coming out of your pocket, you just pay twice as much for nothing extra!!!!

[Grizzn N Bassin]

S Hovanec is 100% correct!!! The rod fixed and sent back from the factory is probably not as good as a rod fixed by a good skilled custom rod builder!!! They don't work for a company and get paid by the hour, and I know the one I use is as skilled as any builder in any factory!!! My Legend Elite which I dropped on a rock cracked a concept guide insert, I not only had the exact same insert replaced, with the same thread, but actually had to waite a week to get it so he could by the thread wrap from St Croix so it was an exact match, and cost me $12.00 I can't ship it for that cost and that ius exactly what any factory is going to do. They don't send you a new rod, they do exactly what my custom builder did, only you pay over 20 bucks in shipping for them to do it!!!! To this day you cant tell a guide was ever replaced!!!

 

In your case you chose to exchange the rod, and the place you bought it did that for you. Many places will not, you have to send it in on your dime and the company wioll fix it,,,,NOT,,,, replace it, the same thing a skilled rod builder does!! and anytime you choose that option, you are making a mistake, and it's coming out of your pocket, you just pay twice as much for nothing extr

i dont buy rods off the interent or from my local tackle shop for that reason of dealign with the hassel.. so i buy them at dicks or gander etc.. took it back to dicks said hey my rod is messed up. I want to exchange for a different one OKAY go get a rod havent been back since!

[Diablos]

If the company is willing to replace it, then by all means let them. But as a custom rod builder, I tend to be cynical when it comes to broken inserts. A 4 week old rod that's been used multiple times will probably have some user error when an insert falls out.

[Capt.Bob]

i dont buy rods off the interent or from my local tackle shop for that reason of dealign with the hassel.. so i buy them at dicks or gander etc.. took it back to dicks said hey my rod is messed up. I want to exchange for a different one OKAY go get a rod havent been back since!

Like others have warned, especially at Dick's and Gander Mountain, be prepared to return them more often than factory direct or a sporting good shop's that are small enough to monitor customer abuse would probably have meant you didn't have to take it back at all. For most a 25 to 50  mile wasted trip for a return cost most of us $12.00 to $20.00, if your time is worth anything there are better options, either way the played with rods seem to have more problems???

[S Hovanec]

Of all the guides I've used over the years, I've only had one insert pop out on any rod I've built or repaired. It was on a brand new ice rod I just built the night before I was gonna use it. By the time we got the gear sledded to the pond, the insert was hanging on the line. Defect? Maybe. My money is on the abuse that little rod took on the 45 minute sled ride in the woods. Inserts just don't fall out without some help.

[Hooligan]

Interesting thoughts here. If your rod is under 90 days from point of purchase, return it to the store you bought it and exchange it. Beyond 90 days, the entire rod: guides, reel seat, all components are covered under the warranty.

One aspect that you need to keep in mind, regardless of money spent by having a rod builder do it locally, is that if it is not an approved Loomis warranty center and you have them repair or replace anything on the rod, it will void the warranty. The same is true of all manufacturers of modern rods. Part of that reason is that they want those rods back in-house to determi e the failures and the issues. They cannot correct them if they don't know about them.

[Hooligan]

Of all the guides I've used over the years, I've only had one insert pop out on any rod I've built or repaired. It was on a brand new ice rod I just built the night before I was gonna use it. By the time we got the gear sledded to the pond, the insert was hanging on the line. Defect? Maybe. My money is on the abuse that little rod took on the 45 minute sled ride in the woods. Inserts just don't fall out without some help.

I tend to disagree with that. I've had many, many inserts pop on rods through the years from brand new rods to rods 15 months old. Inserts pop for a large variety of reasons, not the least of which is sizing issues from the component t manufacturer.