BuffaloBass716 Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 Occasionally ill get bass that swallow the hook (when im using live bait). I read the article about getting out a hook from the gut through the gills but some of the fish are small and the gills wont allow me to get at the hook. If so, Ill then work at the hook with forceps if it looks like I might be able to get it without hurting the fish, sometimes this works but other times if it is a nice bass, Ill just cut the line close to the hook. Im just wondering what will happen to the fish? Will the hook rust out or stay in there forever? Will the hook allow the fish to eat properly? Ive also caught a few with hook in them already and they looked healthy so I guess they live most of the time, right? I just feel bad for the fish sometimes 1 Quote
Kevin22 Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 They will have a better chance of surviving with the hook in them than if you rip it out. Most will do fine, the stomach acid in them eats away at the metal and will corrode the hook barb first, then the point. This will make it release from the fish and he will pass it right through or regurgitate it. Quote
BuffaloBass716 Posted August 16, 2013 Author Posted August 16, 2013 Alright good, because I hate trying to play surgen on fish. Its usually smaller ones that swallow it because I cant feel the fish on the line before its to late. Quote
Dcheek Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 I have always cut the line on a gut hook, whether or not that is the right thing IDK. I think cutting the line as close to the hook as possible makes most sense to me, but I know I have seen some fish die immediately (those go home with me) and others swim off. I try to use bigger hooks and be diligent in setting hook as soon as possible, but this is unavoidable sometimes. Quote
CrossK Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 Yea, they should be totally fine unless you hooked them in something important haha, I just cut it if I can't get it out within about a minute. You'll save more fish leaving the hook in 'me than trying to rip it out. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted August 16, 2013 Super User Posted August 16, 2013 False, false false. Get the hook out. I've caught several bass over the years with a hook lodged in their throat. Food cannot pass through, and they were very skinny. Always remove the hook! Be prepared. Here is how to do it: http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/12981-how-do-i-remove-a-hook-a-bass-has-swallowed/page-2 10 Quote
Kevin22 Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 I've caught several of them crapping out hook shanks. They will pass them. Quote
dave Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 If you have the issue more with live bait, start using circle hooks. 1 Quote
FrogFreak Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 I caught a healthy 3.5 pounder last weekend who had a small hook lodged way back past his crushers. It still had 2 feet of mono hanging out of it's mouth and the hook looked old. I tugged on the mono a bit and removed the hook without doing damage. I bet that ole bass feels better now. I will always try to remove a hook if I can. People who don't fish or hunt will never understand the mentality of an outdoors enthusiast. We respect the same animals that we may very well eat. 2 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted August 16, 2013 Super User Posted August 16, 2013 This is something I feel VERY strongly about. Get the hook out. Period. If you kill it doing so, then take it and eat it. Otherwise, any thought that it will dissolve, pass through their system, or somehow miraculously fix itself is myth. Remove the hook. The ONLY time I leave a hook in is when I am keeping them in the live well and they are hooked in the tongue. In that case, I leave it there, and remove it just before weigh in. I usually end up eating those rare fish as well. 4 Quote
NEjitterbugger Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 I'd want to have the hook ripped out of me, rather than trying to pass them.... LOL I always remove the hook from the fish, If they end up dying and it's not a species that enjoy eating than I put it in my dad's compost pile... Ultimately giving life back... Quote
Dcheek Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 False, false false. Get the hook out. I've caught several bass over the years with a hook lodged in their throat. Food cannot pass through, and they were very skinny. Always remove the hook! Be prepared. Here is how to do it: http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/12981-how-do-i-remove-a-hook-a-bass-has-swallowed/page-2 I have caught catfish with the hook coming out their anus.....maybe because it was a smaller hook? I have never really felt good about leaving hooks in.....I will start trying to remove them. Quote
Super User bigbill Posted August 16, 2013 Super User Posted August 16, 2013 I haven't had this problem yet but I have 5 adopted cats at home that we're abandon when they were kittens. I have three feral ones that are happy to have something to eat. I bring them one fish a year. Even with live bait I try to stay on top of my game and set the hook asap. I lip hook them most of the time. I try to practice good fishing and hunting ethics. Quote
MichBassMan Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 False, false false. Get the hook out. I've caught several bass over the years with a hook lodged in their throat. Food cannot pass through, and they were very skinny. Always remove the hook! Be prepared. Here is how to do it: http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/12981-how-do-i-remove-a-hook-a-bass-has-swallowed/page-2 I 100% agree with Francho, Get the hook out.I keep an 8" bolt cutter in the boat. Often times you can cut the point off the hook and then back it out. The bolt cutter is also used if one is hooked in the eye or thru a gill plate. Most of the time the hook can be taken out using the "thru the gill" method. 20 years ago hooks rusted and fell out. Modern hooks have better steel and much better plating. They don't rust. 1 Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted August 17, 2013 BassResource.com Administrator Posted August 17, 2013 It's pretty easy to remove them using this method with practice: > Quote
Justin86 Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 Sometimes it is just impossible to get the hook out without injuring the fish depending on circumstances, if injury is critical i will without a doubt cut the line the fish will better off with a hook than a torn throat Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted August 17, 2013 Global Moderator Posted August 17, 2013 Pinch the barb down if you're using live bait or go with a circle hook. Otherwise a thin pair of forceps and a steady hand will get the hook out very easily with the technique J posted. I agree 100% with getting the hook out. I'm sure some will pass the hook or it will dissolve but more likely is it will keep the fishes throat pinned shut and it will slowly starve to death. Quote
Super User Grizzn N Bassin Posted August 17, 2013 Super User Posted August 17, 2013 remove the hook it wont pass.... maybe if you using a one of those small sunfish hooks.. but a bass with a 3-5/0 hook in its throat will not pass and will be easy to take out with practice. my uncle always told me to just cut the line but to me I just couldn't wrap my head around the idea... if its to bad I end up taking the fish home and making some dinner which is rare but it does happen Quote
Hattrick7 Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 Circle hooks are the way to go with live bait. Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted August 17, 2013 Super User Posted August 17, 2013 If you don't intend to eat what you catch, why are you fishing with barbs???... If you do accidentally kill a fish you aren't going to consume yourself, leave it in the lake for the scavengers of that ecosystem! oe Quote
derekxec Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 i usually do the through the gills if the barb is sticking out ill use some dykes to cut the tip off and back it out if i figure it will die ill bring it for my neighbor...he eats anything so lol Quote
ReggieT Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 I caught a healthy 3.5 pounder last weekend who had a small hook lodged way back past his crushers. It still had 2 feet of mono hanging out of it's mouth and the hook looked old. I tugged on the mono a bit and removed the hook without doing damage. I bet that ole bass feels better now. I will always try to remove a hook if I can. People who don't fish or hunt will never understand the mentality of an outdoors enthusiast. We respect the same animals that we may very well eat. Crushers?? I've heard they have them...but share with me about their crushers. A friend of mine say they use them to strip flesh off of their prey? Quote
Kevin22 Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 Bass swallow prey whole, they don't strip flesh. They crush with those pads of sandpaper in the back of their mouths. If they take in something like a crawfish which is too oddly shaped to go through their throat they will crush it. That is why you don't see whole crawfish in bass's stomachs, just the claws and body parts. They also use them to push food towards their throats when they have something like a big shad. Quote
ROCbass Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 A while back I read an article, I believe it was in In-Fisherman but it could have been another magazine, which stated that if you were absolutely unable to remove a hook from a fish's gullet the proper course of action was to cut the line, but to cut it 12-18 inches above the hook. The reasoning was that the drag in the water created by the long tag would pull the shank to one side and allow food to pass more easily. That being said, I agree with the others who have said that the hook should be removed if at all possible. I have never been unable to remove a swallowed hook from a bass since I learned the through the gill removal method. Leaving a longer tag on the hook might come in handy when dealing with deep hooked fish with smaller mouths, though. 1 Quote
CravinMorehead Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 I always carry long needle nose pliers and a pair of dykes. I use the through the gill method whenever I can, but the smaller bass usually give me more of a challenge. Unfortunately, I had ONE die that way, but the fish didn't go to waste. Quote
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