JD96 Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 The lakes I fish a lot of are not the best cranking or spinnerbait lakes from my experience, I use a lot of flukes, I'm looking at the Shimano Worm & Jig rod that I believe to be a medium heavy, it's the 99 dollar one. Would that be a good match? Or would a heavier rod be better for the weightless flukes? Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted August 15, 2013 Super User Posted August 15, 2013 I use a 6'8" M/XF. MedHeavy is a bit stout for my liking on a weightless fluke. Quote
Cgrinder Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 I fish flukes on a 6'8" MF Cumara. I think you're looking at a Compre. If you go internet auction hunting, you can get a current gen Crucial for $100-110 shipped sometimes. I echo that sentiment that MH is a bit too much, but it's certainly doable. Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted August 15, 2013 Super User Posted August 15, 2013 A MH spinning rod might be OK. Never tried that. I use a ML casting rod most of the time. It's difficult, at best, to throw an unweighted fluke with a MH casting rod. It just will not load enough to get a good cast. Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted August 15, 2013 Super User Posted August 15, 2013 Spinning rods make more sense, but I prefer casting. I use the Shimano Clarus 6'8" MXF. So far it seems to be the best overall rod in 80 dollar range for topwater/flukes Quote
Super User lmbfisherman Posted August 15, 2013 Super User Posted August 15, 2013 Medium Heavy would be a bad idea for a casting rod. The rod is use is a spinning rod for weightless flukes - Fenwick Elite Tech Smallmouth 6'8 M/XF. This thing is paired with a Shimano Symetre FI 2500 and can sling it a good distance. If you are set on a baitcaster, I'd go with a Shimano M/F Crucial. Cumara if you can, also I own a M/F Fenwick Baitcaster at 6'10" and I can launch a weightless super fluke pretty good which is paired with a Chronarch 50MG. 1 Quote
Drewski73 Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 7'2" Medium Cumara is what I use. Loads up great and has enough backbone to move them when they bite. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted August 16, 2013 Super User Posted August 16, 2013 i use a st. croix 68mxf /w shimano 51e. works great. 1 Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted August 16, 2013 Super User Posted August 16, 2013 i use a st. croix 68mxf /w shimano 51e. works great.Ditto except I'm a 50 kinda guy. I also use this as a hard jerkbait and topwater set up. Gets used allllll season. One of my favorite setups. Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted August 16, 2013 Super User Posted August 16, 2013 I use a 6'8" m/xf cumara with a core 50. Will sling a weightless fluke a mile. Jeff Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted August 16, 2013 Super User Posted August 16, 2013 also I own a M/F Fenwick Baitcaster at 6'10" and I can launch a weightless super fluke pretty good which is paired with a Chronarch 50MG. This except mine carries a Curado 51E. I have 2 other b/c combos that should also do very well with weightless flukes, but haven't tried them with a fluke yet. My Gold Carbonlite/ Falcon Expert Light should do real well as it does a very good job tossing a 3/16 oz. Shad Rap. I have to agree that a MH is a bit too much, and that a spinning rod would probably be the best, but I like using casting reels. EDIT: I have used an Abu Black Max/6'9" Daiwa V.I.P. MF to throw a weightless fluke, and it does quite well even casting into the wind. Quote
katmandew Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 I like to use a small split shot fastened directly in the middle of the hook's bend that is rigged weedless the way Bassresource's video shows you how to rig it. Hook point resting in the slit on the belly of the fluke with the round bend exposed off the back with the sinker. The small weight helps with casting and the bait's tail wiggles as it slowly sinks. The weight makes the bait fall slowly and near flat...not head or tail first, but perpendicular to the surface. Not too much weight, you want a very small split shot weight. Looks like a dieing minnow barely moving its tail. Jerk jerk pause retrieve is deadly when rigged this way. As for the rod, I'm using a 7' Powell Diesel glass casting rod. The crank bait rod slings the fluke a mile. I suppose a moderate action tip on a graphite rod would work just as well. Never have problems with hookups with this rig. Usually the fish hits on the jerk jerk sequence after you have paused. Your jerk jerk sequence sets the hook without you knowing it until you feel the fish fighting. Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted August 16, 2013 Super User Posted August 16, 2013 I have used both medium heavy and medium rods for flukes. The best I have used was a 6'10 medium heavy cumulus followed by a DX 703. The phenix recon 714 is also a nice option with a great tip to really launch them out there. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted August 16, 2013 Super User Posted August 16, 2013 I don't think there is much difference in the blank between a spinning and casting rod of the same brand and model. I use the same rod for every lure I'm using 7'med 8/17 general purpose rod spinning, hook setting is about timing. Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted August 16, 2013 Super User Posted August 16, 2013 I have fished flukes weightless on a 6'-6" M spinning rod. I don't care for it. I prefer a MH 6'-6" baitcaster. It gives me a little more hook setting power, and the muscle is there when I need it. Quote
JD96 Posted August 16, 2013 Author Posted August 16, 2013 I use baitcasters much more than spinning gear, using a fluke on spinning gear would totally change up one of my confidence baits. So I need a medium ? What does the F or X stand for? I'm new to all these expensive and specialized rods. Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted August 16, 2013 Super User Posted August 16, 2013 I use baitcasters much more than spinning gear, using a fluke on spinning gear would totally change up one of my confidence baits. So I need a medium ? What does the F or X stand for? I'm new to all these expensive and specialized rods. Medium is the power of the rod. F= Fast action XF= Extra Fast Action (rod taper) Quote
Super User lmbfisherman Posted August 16, 2013 Super User Posted August 16, 2013 I have used both medium heavy and medium rods for flukes. The best I have used was a 6'10 medium heavy cumulus followed by a DX 703. The phenix recon 714 is also a nice option with a great tip to really launch them out there. Yeah can see a Cumulus handling it, it even loaded a weightless 6" worm enough to get a fishable distance..although accuracy was an issue. I still want to try a Phenix, it seems like a rod that is right up my alley power wise. Quote
trupp30 Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 I have used both spinning and casting rods for flukes. I have to say I think the casting rods work better. Both were 7 ft MF St.Croix rods. If you have the opportunity, use both and see which one you prefer. Quote
JD96 Posted August 16, 2013 Author Posted August 16, 2013 I will have to try a fluke today on my MH BPS Matrix extreme rod. Med heavy with fast tip bought with swim jigs in mind. I am a 16 year old and right now I don't want to spend over 100 on a rod since they risk damage in the back of my truck when I'm pond hopping. Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted August 16, 2013 Super User Posted August 16, 2013 a pistol grip gets you the most out of a superfluke...a.reg fluke for me is best on a med.spinning rod Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted August 16, 2013 Super User Posted August 16, 2013 I will have to try a fluke today on my MH BPS Matrix extreme rod. Med heavy with fast tip bought with swim jigs in mind. I am a 16 year old and right now I don't want to spend over 100 on a rod since they risk damage in the back of my truck when I'm pond hopping. Buy yourself a rod glove and a reel cover. They can be had on TW for about $12 together. It will keep your gear in near mint condition as it travels to and from your destinations. 2 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted August 16, 2013 Super User Posted August 16, 2013 Same thing I use for senkos, a medium/fast spinning rod. 20# braid. Sometimes I use a leader, sometimes not. I rarely rig them weedless, preferring to nose hook them on a wide gap finesse hook. Quote
skeletor6 Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 I use a NRX 893c and Curado 50e. The only downside is that some may not like this length for the purpose, but this rod absolutely bombs flukes. Next to fishing it with a 6'8'' Powell max or 803 NRX rod the extra distance I gain allows me to work the bait back a much greater distance which allows me to catch more fish. I find I can still work the bait just fine standing up on the deck of my boat. I do feel, however, that a shorter rod is certainly more comfortable for working the bait back. If I was in your position and was looking for around $100 to spend on it. I would without a doubt get a Fenwick Elite Tech Smallmouth in the size, action, power you decide and run with it. Great rod for its price. Quote
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