Why The Heavy Flippin Stick Craze. I'm Staying Mh

[jimmykm21]

How does anyone snap 50 pound braid  catching a large mouth ?

 

I can't see it happening for any reason other than you had your line rub against rocks or gravel , then it really didn't snap it frayed to the point of breaking.

 

I have surf fished for many, many years and 50 braid won't snap from the weight of a striper  unless I had the fish take me to the rocks which it did

happen on occasion.

 

But there is a difference between line breaking and line breaking because of it frayed.

[Bass_Fanatic]

Hook a DD in 18 fow in a brushpile in thick hydrilla and see what happens...

[J Francho]

How does anyone snap 50 pound braid  catching a large mouth ?

 

I can't see it happening for any reason other than you had your line rub against rocks or gravel , then it really didn't snap it frayed to the point of breaking.

 

I have surf fished for many, many years and 50 braid won't snap from the weight of a striper  unless I had the fish take me to the rocks which it did

happen on occasion.

 

But there is a difference between line breaking and line breaking because of it frayed.

Does it really matter how it broke? Breaking off is breaking off. I've broken off with 65 and 80lb. braid. Sometimes you don't notice that you rubbed on some zebra mussels, or the bass wraps you around a metal dock post.... many reasons why any size line breaks.

Most of us using 50, 65, and even 80# braid is for the handling characteristics, not the breaking strength anyway. 65 and 80# does a real nice job of sawing through sinner grass and weeds without getting wedged into the stalks and leaves of heavier lily pad or water chestnuts. If you don't fish it, then it isn't a problem. Like I said before, if it's there, there are fish in it, and you'll need something more than 30# braid and a MH to get them out.

[craww]

Call a spade a spade. That veritas is stouter than most H rods out there.

[Catt]

The bass that broke me off was in a brush pile in 25',

The Pro's was during the 2008 Lonestar Shootout on Falcon, Paul Elias had a four day total of 136.8, the top 12 were all over 100# & the. Co-angler was 83#.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

You can "Flip" or "Pitch" with any rod technically. The things to consider when choosing are bait weight, size of fish expected and cover conditions. The next thing you run into is the subjective designations put on rods. For example, if you are fishing a MH St. Croix, you may be fishing the equiv. of someone else's Hvy. already.

[Brent Bartman]

None of my rods I would consider my "primary." There's a reason the "craze" of heavy cover tackle has been around since the 70's - it works. You might not come across the heavy cover that dictates this tackle in the lakes you fish, but if it is there, there are fish in it. Rods and reels are just tools - match your tools to the job, not some craze.

 

 

By primary I mean im not grabbing my broomstick st croix that will wear you out after an hour to cruise a bank. its in the boat to be used for the nasty stuff. its just in Hampton roads the reservoirs i fish dont have vegetation to require it. 

[J Francho]

My broomstick is a Deep South XXX Heavy. It's nicely balanced with a Daiwa TD-X103HSDL pitching reel. Not tiring at all. I also have a Dobyns 745 and that rod is even lighter, with a Chronarch E and Hawgtech handle. Typically, I am using them, or I'm not. "Primary" could mean one of these, or another lighter weight stick for less cover, or docks, or it could mean (most likely) 4-6 rods while junk fishing, which is what we do a lot of up here, especially when fish have moved out of the shallows.

[MrPeanut]

IMO the veritas fishes at a heavier action than what they're calling it, I think my MH veritas feels more like a H, that could be why it seems there's no need to go up to a H too, you almost already are using one

 

other rod companies will be different though

[Grantman83]

^^^^^^

I have a heavy veritas that is a heavier than my dx745 which is rated a mag heavy...

[Greeneye8181]

I have a Kistler KLX heavy I use for frogging. Its BARELY thicker than the MH Zbone I have. Barely noticeable. I prefer a MH for flipping.

That being said I only use the heavy for frogging. Also, some companies have different specs and what they call it. I had a St.Croix tournament labeled as medium and it was exactly the same size as my MH Zbone. Same goes for my Xtreme.

[CrossK]

I've snapped a MH Veritas while flipping in super thick mats so since then I'm stickin with a heavy 7' 11'' rod.