YoungProdigy19 Posted August 11, 2013 Posted August 11, 2013 Hey everyone, I was watching the weigh in at the St Lawrence Seaway yesterday on bassmaster. I had heard it was windy and that it had fished tougher than previous days. Now, I have a lot of confidence in throwing a dropshot, but Aaron Martens said something that really threw me off. It should though he has mastered the technique, he made a comment about how he shouldve or he did, used a longer leader, shortened the worm, and lightened the weight. I can understand the light weight, and shortening the bait, but can someone who understands this put this into perspective for me?? Thank you!
gallowaypt Posted August 11, 2013 Posted August 11, 2013 If the fish are highly pressured and/or it's a tough bite, the longer the leader typically needs to be. At least that's my understanding.
Super User bigbill Posted August 11, 2013 Super User Posted August 11, 2013 Does he mean he down sized the drop shot rig with a smaller worm and lighter weight with a longer leader? On a tough bite.
Brian Needham Posted August 11, 2013 Posted August 11, 2013 Instead of a huge runon sentence with a question mark, can you state your actual question?
Super User Sam Posted August 11, 2013 Super User Posted August 11, 2013 longer leader - go a few inches longer shortened the worm - go with a shorter plastic worm in lieu of the standard 6' finesse worm lightened the weight - just what he said, go with a lighter weight to allow the entire rig to move with the current.
NEjitterbugger Posted August 11, 2013 Posted August 11, 2013 With a longer leader, the hook and bait are further away from the weight. Possibly enticing more finicky bass compared to a shorter leader where the weight is closer to the bait.
Super User WRB Posted August 11, 2013 Super User Posted August 11, 2013 Fishing higher in the water column with a shorter smaller worm: 3" in lieu of 4" for example. Aaron fine tunes his presentations, may make a 1 lb change in his line strength, 1/32 oz change in the weight, it's more than likely something very small that most anglers don't even consider a change. Tom
wnybassman Posted August 11, 2013 Posted August 11, 2013 If anyone has experience sight fishing with plastics while ice fishing, you will know when fish are finicky they will only suck in the tail of the bait, or even just nudge it not committing at all. Shortening the worm will put the hook that much closer to the fishes mouth, and hopefully in it. I always go with a little longer leader on the Great Lakes system, and mainly to stay well above the endless cloud of gobies that live on the bottom. Serves two purposes. First, the gobies don't swim up and grab the bait constantly. Second, the fish can see it from a greater distance with it a bit higher. 2 1/2 feet is usually just about right. I don't know anything about going lighter on the weight, cause I don't do that. In 30-40+ feet of water I want to send that thing down there to arches I see on the graph as fast as possible, whether in current or not.
papajoe222 Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 What I'd like to know is how he maintains contact under windy conditions using a lighter weight? 1
YoungProdigy19 Posted August 12, 2013 Author Posted August 12, 2013 Thank you guys, I think I learned more than what I was really after but that is always okay, hope brian is okay with it! Lol
jtharris3 Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 Instead of a huge runon sentence with a question mark, can you state your actual question? Seriously? 6
Brian Needham Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 Being a "young prodigy" and all you might want to grasp the langauge before drop shot. I wasn't trying to be a grammer hound. Your question/questions were blurred, and I wanted a bit of clarity. Oh well. I am glad your "question" got answered. 3
Super User WRB Posted August 12, 2013 Super User Posted August 12, 2013 What I'd like to know is how he maintains contact under windy conditions using a lighter weight?Aaron grew up in SoCal fishing windy weather in deep clear rocky structure reservoirs and has a lot of time on the water watching his line, feeling slight changes in line slack and looking into the water for fish reaction and precise boat control.Aaron is gifted with his sense of feel! Tom
GaBankFisher Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Being a "young prodigy" and all you might want to grasp the langauge before drop shot. I wasn't trying to be a grammer hound. Your question/questions were blurred, and I wanted a bit of clarity. Oh well. I am glad your "question" got answered. How is telling a kid publicly that he needs to "grasp the language before drop shot" not unprovoked rudeness? If you really wanted clarity, you might want to grasp some manners. Just sayin...I'm sure others were thinking the same thing. And...grammer? 1
Super User J Francho Posted August 14, 2013 Super User Posted August 14, 2013 Alright guys, quit misspelling grammar, and stick to the original question. It's just fishing. 2
GaBankFisher Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 I know, I know...just don't see any reason to try to embarrass a kid (or anyone else). That discourages communication. Anyway, have a great one!
Hattrick7 Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 Leader length, IMO, depends on how deep the water is. If its fairly shallow I think it's best to go with a shorter leader. Deeper the water you would probably want to go longer leader. The lighter weight I think will give the bait a little more action. I dropshot a lot in the lake I fish. The lake is like 10' feet deep max. When I first tried dropshotting I used like a 12-14" leader and got nothing. Being inexperienced with it I didn't think to shorten it until one of the regulars suggested I cut it down in half. Bam that was the magic solution. I've also noticed that some days the 6" roboworm gets bit and the 4.5 doesn't and vice versa. But I've also found that when the bite gets really tough that smaller usually will get bit more often then the larger plastic. Just my opinion and experience though. I've got a Long road to get to where Aaron Martens knows dropshotting.
Hyrule Bass Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 Alright guys, quit misspelling grammar, and stick to the original question. It's just fishing. in fairness to the OP, Brian Needhams comments were totally uncalled for. especially when there is punctuation breaking up the so-called "run-on" and others seemed to be answering the question just fine. also, it would help if the person complaining about grammar could actually spell grammar. message boards arent for people who think everything has to be typed out perfectly, this isnt english class, and most people frankly dont see the need to type formal in an informal setting...
Super User J Francho Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 We are done discussing anything other than the original question here. Any off topic discussion can be handled via PM. Please refer to the rules about attacking individual members. Brian's post was addressed already. Any further discussion is beating a dead horse.
BassAddict1911 Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 Instead of a huge runon sentence with a question mark, can you state your actual question? Seriously? Seriously.
Super User J Francho Posted August 20, 2013 Super User Posted August 20, 2013 Yeah. Seriously. This one is done. Move on.
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