MIbassin Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Hey guys, Just wondering if you could recommend a complete huddleston setup (Rod, Reel and gear ratio, Line) for a reasonable price range I will mostly be throwing the 68weedless or just the regular 6 inch and is it possible to use a bbz-1jr with the same setup?? Thanks! Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted July 28, 2013 Super User Posted July 28, 2013 Rod- Any 7'6'' + swimbait rod. A good non expensive one is the Okuma Guide select Big bait special GS-C-761H. Reel- Curado 300e Line- this varies from but I use 20lb Flouro( one with the least amount of stretch I can find) Jeff Quote
Brian Needham Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 everybody just quit talking about swimbaits......ya'll are going to cost me too much money. any swimbait rod should be good to go, as sensitivity is not at a premium. Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted July 29, 2013 Super User Posted July 29, 2013 everybody just quit talking about swimbaits......ya'll are going to cost me too much money. any swimbait rod should be good to go, as sensitivity is not at a premium. That is the theory that I am of. Ask speedbead and deep and they have custom 8' blanks built. They certainly have more experience with them than I have. Hey Needham, have you seen those really cool Roman made swimbaits? :eyebrows: Jeff Quote
Super User deep Posted July 29, 2013 Super User Posted July 29, 2013 Now now Jeff, you shouldn't mention me in the same sentence as Speed! He's a beast. The only time I'm not concerned with sensitivity is when I'm fishing a topwater- I can see the strike. I caught three fish on a slow-sink Mattlures Hardgill yesterday. Let's just say two of the bites were very very light and came on the pause. Must have missed a few more that I didn't detect? Didn't Glen Lau have some videos where a crankbait was inhaled and spit out without the fisherman feeling anything? Quote
GoneFishi'n Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 The best beginner set up I would recommend would be the Okuma Guide Select 7'11" Heavy as the rod. Reel- either the Dawai Millionaire S 300, or the Shimano Cardiff 300. Line- Berkley Big Game for the $ or P-Line CXX. If you have any questions about swimbaits ask Deep or SPEEDBEAD, they are some of the best people you can talk to about swimbaits. SPEEDBEAD is the beard of knowledge. Quote
Brian Needham Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 SPEEDBEAD is the beard of knowledge. I started to grow mine last week, in preparation of getting into swimbaits.....I need all the help I can get. I started with the "JFranco" and then decided to go full "Speedbead" lol Quote
CPBassFishing Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 Now now Jeff, you shouldn't mention me in the same sentence as Speed! He's a beast. The only time I'm not concerned with sensitivity is when I'm fishing a topwater- I can see the strike. I caught three fish on a slow-sink Mattlures Hardgill yesterday. Let's just say two of the bites were very very light and came on the pause. Must have missed a few more that I didn't detect? Didn't Glen Lau have some videos where a crankbait was inhaled and spit out without the fisherman feeling anything? I'm fairly certain the the hook points and barbs were cut off. I can't see how a fish can inhale a bait with 6 needle sharp points and spit it out before you fel anything and set the hook. If you have really sharp hooks then the line tension and the bass turning will bury the hooks. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 29, 2013 Super User Posted July 29, 2013 Nice, lol. If you think sensitivity is not important, you're fishing your Hudds wrong, or at least not to their potential. For rods, you eventually will want a light stick. The Okuma and a Cardiff spooled with 20-25# CXX is a good basic rig that will serve you a lifetime of swimbaiting. But there are better options. 2 Quote
CPBassFishing Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 That is the theory that I am of. Ask speedbead and deep and they have custom 8' blanks built. They certainly have more experience with them than I have. Hey Needham, have you seen those really cool Roman made swimbaits? :eyebrows: Jeff shhhh.... that's MY negotiator Quote
GoneFishi'n Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 I started to grow mine last week, in preparation of getting into swimbaits.....I need all the help I can get. I started with the "JFranco" and then decided to go full "Speedbead" lol Quote
GoneFishi'n Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 I started to grow mine last week, in preparation of getting into swimbaits.....I need all the help I can get. I started with the "JFranco" and then decided to go full "Speedbead" lol Haha. The longer it is the more you will know. True fact. Quote
Brian Needham Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 I'm fairly certain the the hook points and barbs were cut off. I can't see how a fish can inhale a bait with 6 needle sharp points and spit it out before you fel anything and set the hook. If you have really sharp hooks then the line tension and the bass turning will bury the hooks. young you are, watch video you must..... Quote
CPBassFishing Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 young you are, watch video you must..... seen it, I have. Quote
Brian Needham Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 seen it, I have. fail to see the truth you have. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 29, 2013 Super User Posted July 29, 2013 There's an unwritten rule here about Yoda speaking not going on for more than three posts, lol. Here's an origamy Yoda. Quote
Brian Needham Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 http://youtu.be/shTA13I_vCo and point taken Jfrancho. Quote
stkbassn Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 I've had no issues using a REVO S or REVO Inshore for my Hudds, Osprey's, BBZ's, Slammers....You don't have to have round reel to throw these baits in my opinion and I can cast them a mile. I use 15-17lb PLine CXX. The Okuma 7'6 H would be a great stick for those baits and it's fairly light too. If you want a bigger reel then all of the ones I've heard suggested are fine...I just like one that's lighter. If I was out in California I might change my tune but here in VA I've had zero issues. In fact,I have an 8ft Kistler Magnesium that handles 1-5 oz baits and I'm selling it to pick up a shorter rod....just can't go back to that super long stick... Quote
MIbassin Posted July 30, 2013 Author Posted July 30, 2013 are there any rods you recommend that are shorter than 7'6 Quote
stkbassn Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 You can fish 6 inch Hudds on just about any MH rod that's 7' without any problems if you aren't wanting to get a swimbait rod. I think you'll enjoy fishing them more on a swimbait rod though. You can find good prices on those Okuma's for sure. I bought mine for less than $130. I don't think you'll have any issues with a 7'6 rod at all. It doesn't seem long once you get it in your hands. You'll appreciate the extra length for casting distance purposes, especially with the heavier baits. You'll probably want to try new baits as well and if you don't have the rod to handle them you will be disappointed in the results. All of this just coming from trial and error on my part. Quote
MIbassin Posted July 30, 2013 Author Posted July 30, 2013 Thank you! Its not the length that would be a problem, however i have to transport my rods in a car (sedan) and i just wanted to make sure that since it is one piece, that it will fit. What do you think? Quote
stkbassn Posted July 30, 2013 Posted July 30, 2013 Hmm, not sure. You should be able to lay it from the front to the back window without an issue. You may want to measure first. You can always get a rod glove or stick jacket and lay ii diagonally from the front out one of the back passenger windows. When I can't take my trailblazer I take a Honda Del Sol ..of course the back window goes down so I can lay them out the back....looks silly though! lol Quote
Super User Chris at Tech Posted July 31, 2013 Super User Posted July 31, 2013 You can fish 6 inch Hudds on just about any MH rod that's 7' without any problems if you aren't wanting to get a swimbait rod. Aren't 6 in Hudds 2 ounces +? Seems like a bit of a all order for a MH rod, no? 2 Quote
stkbassn Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 I threw Hudds and Ospreys on my Carrot Stix Black MH with no problems at all but that's a stiff MH. I threw them on my Kistler Helium 7'MH and it was fine though a softer MH so not ideal. I wouldn't recommend a MH over a H nor would I want to fish my swimbaits with one as a dedicated rod But it can do the trick...that's pretty much what I was getting at. Quote
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