JigMe Posted July 27, 2013 Posted July 27, 2013 Just got back from a local car shop, and technician said my both of my front&back strut, upper & lower control arms, ball joints and lower brushing needs to be replaced. My car is 2002 GS300 with 150k Miles, should I spend $3k replacing them? Pretty much the entire suspension system needs to be replaced, can I drive the car w/o fixing it? Quote
Super User tomustang Posted July 27, 2013 Super User Posted July 27, 2013 Sounds like your tech wants 3000 of your dollars. If it was that bad he wouldn't release the car to you. First, go to rockauto.com and price out Upper and Lower control arms, and the Ball Joints, see how cheap they are. Second, if you'er that worried go get another opinion, for 3 grand many people would jump on that if you paid them. Quote
Anghellic Posted July 27, 2013 Posted July 27, 2013 My opinion would be to take the car to another shop and let them look at the car and see what it is they say is wrong. To me 3k is a lot of money to spend on that. I am not in any way saying they are wrong or anything like that but a second opinion is a great thing to have. I would not inform the other shop what anyone has said. that is just me though. You can drive the car the way it is but you will go through tires quicker than normal. Not to mention vibrations and handling issues that will arise. Quote
JigMe Posted July 27, 2013 Author Posted July 27, 2013 My opinion would be to take the car to another shop and let them look at the car and see what it is they say is wrong. To me 3k is a lot of money to spend on that. I am not in any way saying they are wrong or anything like that but a second opinion is a great thing to have. I would not inform the other shop what anyone has said. that is just me though. You can drive the car the way it is but you will go through tires quicker than normal. Not to mention vibrations and handling issues that will arise. So, it is not a safety issue? She is not going to just lose control on the highway right? Quote
jherm87 Posted July 27, 2013 Posted July 27, 2013 If a ball joint goes you can. They hold the control arms together. I would replace those for sure. If tout can rock the tire back and forth I would do it right away. Always get a second opinion Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted July 28, 2013 Super User Posted July 28, 2013 Like jherm87 said the ball joints are the dangerous link in the system. If they fail the tires goes from vertical to horizontal. Get a 2 nd opinion. Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted July 28, 2013 Super User Posted July 28, 2013 · Hidden by 00 mod, July 28, 2013 - double Hidden by 00 mod, July 28, 2013 - double Like jherm87 said the ball joints are the dangerous link in the system. If they fail the tires goes from vertical to horizontal. Get a 2 nd opinion.
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted July 28, 2013 Super User Posted July 28, 2013 · Hidden by 00 mod, July 28, 2013 - triple Hidden by 00 mod, July 28, 2013 - triple Like jherm87 said the ball joints are the dangerous link in the system. If they fail the tires goes from vertical to horizontal. Get a 2 nd opinion.
craww Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Thats ridiculous....Price the parts out first, some times imports can have random excessive prices. In alot of cases the ball joints are part of the control arm; your ball joint goes bad, you need a new arm altogether. Definitely get another opinion, if you can find a reputable shade tree kinda guy, it's not a massive undertaking. Quote
Super User retiredbosn Posted July 28, 2013 Super User Posted July 28, 2013 Just got back from a local car shop, and technician said my both of my front&back strut, upper & lower control arms, ball joints and lower brushing needs to be replaced. My car is 2002 GS300 with 150k Miles, should I spend $3k replacing them? Pretty much the entire suspension system needs to be replaced, can I drive the car w/o fixing it? Do u notice any noises, vibrations or maneuvering problems? If the strut is bad you will get a large thunk (bang, noise) whatever when hitting bumps, potholes etc. It would be extremely rare for your entire suspension to be bad after 150,000 miles. Notice any unusual tire wear, noise or vibrations when braking? IMO it sounds like you're being scammed, get another opinion. 1 Quote
derekxec Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 get another opinion and if you do need all that get the control arms with ball joints already in them and check out rockauto.com because wow 3k for a couple hours job is crazy i would do it myself and get the alignment close and take it to a shop just for alignment edit: checked rock auto and you are looking at around $650 shipped for parts lol Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted July 28, 2013 Super User Posted July 28, 2013 In all likelyhood the car needs to be repaired, the question would be is it worth the expense for a 10 year old car. I can't address another's financial situation and whether it's cost effective or not for them. I would get another estimate and I would not waste my time in trying to figure out what the parts cost unless I was going to fix it myself, which I would never do. I don't put major money into a repair unless it's a work vehicle making me money. A 10 year old car is getting close to the bottom of it's value and 1-$3000 repair is not going to make it worth that much more. A couple of grand today but what's going to be needed to repaired in a month or 2, I'd probably look at replacing the car, but ya gotta do what you can afford. 1 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted July 28, 2013 Super User Posted July 28, 2013 Seems odd to me too that all those items will need replacing at the same time. Control arms don't just wear out really but bushings and ball joints can but it usually isn't a catastrophic failure. You generally know before it happens that it is oging to go at some point. Definitely get a second opinion and if you are slightly mechanically inclined it really is a pretty easy job. 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 28, 2013 Super User Posted July 28, 2013 In all likelyhood the car needs to be repaired, the question would be is it worth the expense for a 10 year old car. I can't address another's financial situation and whether it's cost effective or not for them. I would get another estimate and I would not waste my time in trying to figure out what the parts cost unless I was going to fix it myself, which I would never do. I don't put major money into a repair unless it's a work vehicle making me money. A 10 year old car is getting close to the bottom of it's value and 1-$3000 repair is not going to make it worth that much more. A couple of grand today but what's going to be needed to repaired in a month or 2, I'd probably look at replacing the car, but ya gotta do what you can afford. Sound advice right there. Appears as it's time to make a choice. Either spend the money on the repair (and I'd go to a dealership but that's another whole thread entirely) or use the $$ for a down payment on another ride - new or pre-owned. There is no right or wrong answer here only opinions. And the only one that matters is Yours. Finally, where safety is a concern I'll put it to you like this: would you jump from a plane with a parachute that is guaranteed to open 70 % of the time ? Good Luck A-Jay Quote
derekxec Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Seems odd to me too that all those items will need replacing at the same time. Control arms don't just wear out really but bushings and ball joints can but it usually isn't a catastrophic failure. You generally know before it happens that it is oging to go at some point. Definitely get a second opinion and if you are slightly mechanically inclined it really is a pretty easy job. seems funny to me too that the control arms would need to be replaced unless the ball joint is molded into the arm or something which i havent really seen...and really you can go down to autozone or most other auto parts stores and they will loan you tools for free just put a deposit also the way mechanics work is they have a book and it says how many hours each job should take..thats how much they charge but they usually dont account for the fact that they will already have everything off so they can replace multiple parts at the same time saving a lot of time 1 Quote
Brian Needham Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Just got back from a local car shop, and technician said my both of my front&back strut, upper & lower control arms, ball joints and lower brushing needs to be replaced. My car is 2002 GS300 with 150k Miles, should I spend $3k replacing them? Pretty much the entire suspension system needs to be replaced, can I drive the car w/o fixing it? did you go get your oil changed, then they came out with the list of what "really" needs to be fixed? its a classic tactic. I would get checked out, but I am leaning towards none of that is in dire need to be replaced. 1 Quote
derekxec Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 this happened to my mother at a jiffy lube...she went in for an oil change and they came back with a $500 bill lol...they said her alternator was bad so they changed it during the oil change and tried to charge her $500 for it Quote
TrippyJai Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 Plenty of great advices here. You should also find yourself a honest mechanic who owns a shop and build a relationship. Maybe ask a few buddies if they know anyone as well. My whole family takes our cars to the same place for oil changes and repairs. Over the years, we've built a relationship and even became friends with the owner of this small shop. I would refer many people to him and even purchase brand new sets of tires, batteries, etc at a more expensive price just to let him earn extra money. In return, he's helped our family a lot with the advices he's given us alone. Not to mention all the little fixes and inspections that he doesn't charge us when we have a problem. It works both ways. 3 Quote
Anghellic Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 I agree with the others on the repair. I cant help but wonder what it was for the reason to get the car checked? How does it drive? any noises or vibrations or anything unusual? Quote
JigMe Posted July 29, 2013 Author Posted July 29, 2013 Do u notice any noises, vibrations or maneuvering problems? If the strut is bad you will get a large thunk (bang, noise) whatever when hitting bumps, potholes etc. It would be extremely rare for your entire suspension to be bad after 150,000 miles. Notice any unusual tire wear, noise or vibrations when braking? IMO it sounds like you're being scammed, get another opinion. I didn't notice any noises, or vibrations. Quote
JigMe Posted July 29, 2013 Author Posted July 29, 2013 did you go get your oil changed, then they came out with the list of what "really" needs to be fixed? its a classic tactic. I would get checked out, but I am leaning towards none of that is in dire need to be replaced. yeah, I came out with an estimate for those repair jobs. Quote
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