Goose21 Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Bigger, stronger, faster, more explosive, invreased stamina, and often overlooked, the ability to heal quicker. All attributes of anabolic steroids and peptides (HGH, insulin, igf, etc..) Very little benefit when it comes to fishing, absolutely not worth it when you consider risk/reward. Not to mention illegal. Quote
JellyMan Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 You should see the Marijuana use on the Amatuer golf and Web.com tour... lol Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted July 23, 2013 Super User Posted July 23, 2013 You should see the Marijuana use on the Amatuer golf and Web.com tour... lol I had have to see proof on that statement, Web.com is the ticket to the PGA tour, too much at stake. Â There is always the chance that a few may do it but I don't think the use is rampant. Â I don't know if there is random testing or not but MJ stays in in your system for about a month. Quote
Zach Dunham Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 You should see the Marijuana use on the Amatuer golf and Web.com tour... lol  I wouldn't care if they did. Marijuana is far from a performance enhancer and it should never have been illegal in the first place. Smoke all the pot you want it isn't going to help you win. And if someone can still win while getting their high on, congratulations to them. 1 Quote
JellyMan Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 I wouldn't care if they did. Marijuana is far from a performance enhancer and it should never have been illegal in the first place. Smoke all the pot you want it isn't going to help you win. And if someone can still win while getting their high on, congratulations to them. My view exactly.  No so much on the Web tour but it is big time in Am golf and golf in general. I was surprised how loose the use was on and off the course by my fellow golfers after I became much more serious about my game throughout my 20's.  But yeah I dont think there is any "drug" that can help you fish lol. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted July 23, 2013 Super User Posted July 23, 2013 Drive 5000 miles, towing a boat. 3 hours of sleep, practice day, tournament meeting, media day, more practice, very little sleep.... I bet you there's some amphetamines kicking around. Iaconelli also recounts many nights drinking heavily, and he wasn't alone. You can't tell me fishing with a hangover is an advantage. I bet there's a little helper going on there.  I'm not accusing all pros, or any specific ones. Just saying it's not as unlikely as you think. I think airborne angler brought up an interesting point. 2 Quote
Super User senile1 Posted July 23, 2013 Super User Posted July 23, 2013 Drive 5000 miles, towing a boat. 3 hours of sleep, practice day, tournament meeting, media day, more practice, very little sleep.... I bet you there's some amphetamines kicking around. Iaconelli also recounts many nights drinking heavily, and he wasn't alone. You can't tell me fishing with a hangover is an advantage. I bet there's a little helper going on there.  I'm not accusing all pros, or any specific ones. Just saying it's not as unlikely as you think. I think airborne angler brought up an interesting point.  Yeah, I would think the most likely usage would be stimulants. Quote
derekxec Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 hey if i can do 16 hours walking in waist/knee deep water for a couple days while catching fish(and no the dark is not a reason to stop lol) without anything except a few snacks in a plastic bag that floats away without me looking half the time lol then anyone can do it no need to be roid raging especially when there is a chance you could lose hahahaha Quote
Zach Dunham Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Drive 5000 miles, towing a boat. 3 hours of sleep, practice day, tournament meeting, media day, more practice, very little sleep.... I bet you there's some amphetamines kicking around. Iaconelli also recounts many nights drinking heavily, and he wasn't alone. You can't tell me fishing with a hangover is an advantage. I bet there's a little helper going on there.  I'm not accusing all pros, or any specific ones. Just saying it's not as unlikely as you think. I think airborne angler brought up an interesting point.  I agree that some kind of stimulant could help depending on the person's situation. I just don't by anabolic steroids making much of a difference. The drinking part is just silly to me. Especially on short sleep. They'd be much better off just lighting up a bowl. lol. Alcohol is NOT fun to deal with on short sleep. And then go outside in the sun all day on a boat? No thanks. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted July 24, 2013 Super User Posted July 24, 2013 I'm not sure how tournaments are set up week to week geographically, but 5000 miles might be just a bit of an embellishment. Lake O to as far as one could drive in Alaska is less than 5000 miles and there are no bass tournaments there to my knowledge.  Be interesting to see the spacing between week to week events.  3 hours of sleep to drive to a distance like that, not that it's impossible but not real probable.  Sleep deprivation is much like over drinker, one is not in control of their full faculties.  I'ts unlikely on tournament day anyone is blowing reefer, a bag a chips and a nap would be in order.  I wouldn't be surprised about amphetamines, but with those there is going to a crash with extended use coupled with minimal amounts of sleep.  Whether fishing is a sport and anglers are athletes one can believe what ever they wish, I have my sentiments on that. Quote
Super User webertime Posted July 24, 2013 Super User Posted July 24, 2013 I'd think Adderall and Ritalin would be fairly abundant out there.  Easy to get, cheap, get that 5 cups of coffee energy with no need to wreck a port-a-potty, focus on that line like you read about, and not feeling hungry. Sounds plausible to me. Quote
Hyrule Bass Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Dumb question: What are PED's?   Personal Enhancement Drugs Performance Enhancing Drugs  ---------------  and actually, as anglers, we often discuss the need to slow down and fish slower in many situations. wouldnt marijuana actually help someone slow down a little? 2 Quote
derekxec Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 in that case a drunk guys reaction time is pretty slow he could fish a frog all day and never miss a fish hahaha Quote
aquaholic Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Is smoking cigars/ cigarettes allowed during tournaments? They have tried to get that banned from golf a couple times because it supposedly calms you down. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted July 28, 2013 Super User Posted July 28, 2013 Is smoking cigars/ cigarettes allowed during tournaments? They have tried to get that banned from golf a couple times because it supposedly calms you down. Â I smoked for almost 20 years, only time cigarettes calmed me down is when i was fiending for one and finally lit up. Quote
aquaholic Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 I smoked for almost 20 years, only time cigarettes calmed me down is when i was fiending for one and finally lit up. Â I only smoked for 5, but i agree, the only time it would have any effect is when you hadnt had a cigarette for a while and started to get antsy. Quote
Zach Dunham Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 Is smoking cigars/ cigarettes allowed during tournaments? They have tried to get that banned from golf a couple times because it supposedly calms you down. Â I believe it is allowed. There was a recent article on Bassmaster website that was written by a marshal about the experience. He said at one point that Boyd Duckett and Kelly Jordon pulled up to each other and smoked a cigarette together during the tournament. Quote
derekxec Posted July 31, 2013 Posted July 31, 2013 better to not smoke anyway...the smell gets all over your hands and everything else and to non smokers we can smell it even from a mile away lol...and ive never seen a fish smoking before so Quote
Amarley Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 I talked to an Elite pro in Vegas a few weeks ago (no names to protect the innocent). He said he has never heard of a pro angler drinking during an event. Too much on the line and the competition is thrill enough. Plus these guys are hustling to make a paycheck every week and need their sponsors more than any of us can imagine. Anyone who drank during a tournament probably wouldn't be around long and definitely would lose their sponsors.  He did say that some of the guys party like crazy if they miss the cut on Friday. Hey, no crime there. Overall, he didn't act like substance use was an issue. I've wondered about some guys during interviews and appearance, but I guess it's a non-issue according to this pro. Quote
senko_77 Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Drug testing in fishing.....LMAO.  The drug testing industry is such a scam to begin with. If someone goes home after a long day of work and smokes a joint rather than downing a 6-pack like most, then they will test positive for up to 30 days, and in some rare instances, even longer than that. Yet the person that snorted cocaine or took ecstasy during a party on a Friday night would be all good if he/she were randomly tested the next Monday at work. A lot of businesses aren't even doing drug testing anymore for this exact reason. It has been proven time and time again that marijuana doesn't effect brain function in any way. I know that if I were an employer, I would much rather have an employee that was sharp at work and relaxed at home with MJ versus the person who is so stressed from work and everyday life that they are popping doctor prescribed Xanax and other benzodiazapenes that bog you down and make your decision making horrible while at work.  Back on topic with drugs/alcohol on tour....I've heard from numerous people that alcohol is a pretty big part of tour life. I also agree that some sort of amphetamines like Adderall, Vyvanse, or street amps like meth could be a possibility due to the extreme lack of sleep that goes with the lifestyle. I agree with what Speedbead said about being high on the water in the first place. Why would you want to do anything to cloud your decision making in the slightest bit when 100k and a classic berth is on the line. Quote
FrogFreak Posted August 9, 2013 Posted August 9, 2013 I use nicotine and caffeine on a regular basis. It helps I swear!! Quote
"BRB" Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 Just think how hard you could set the hook all jacked up on roids! The fish would be flying over your head!           Quote
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted August 14, 2013 Super User Posted August 14, 2013 Only one sport I can think of that's actually.strenuous.. Mountain biking..football.baseball.basketball not so much what do you do maybe a 1 hr game a week then.talk about it for 72 hrs...haha then break a toe off 4 months.like others said try a tourney 3 days in a.row 100 deg temps..4.or 5 times a.month Quote
Nave Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 Drug testing in fishing.....LMAO.   This^ Quote
aquaholic Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 better to not smoke anyway...the smell gets all over your hands and everything else and to non smokers we can smell it even from a mile away lol...and ive never seen a fish smoking before so I found this walking down the river this spring, now you can say youve seen a fish smoking. 3 Quote
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