Line Decisions???

[Cabbage_donkey]

Hey all, new guy that needs some help.

 

I tried to find the answer here but no luck http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/12401-senko-faq- look-here-first/

 

I have a set up specifically for finesse fishing whacky rigged senkos.

 

Its a GLOOMIS GL2 worm and jig rod, paired with a shimano stradic reel.

 

now lies the question, I really want to spool up with high vis braid and a 4-6' fluoro leader.

 

Some people, pro's include say go for it "that's what I use" some say only spool up with line like seaguar invisx

 

 

 

The guys using high-vis do so, so they can see the bite information from the line itself if the bait gets inhaled before touchdown.

 

the guys using camo type line or the invisx are doing so because they fear the high-vis will spook the bass.

 

 

Any opinions pro or con are welcome......I'm really leaning towards the high-vis tho'

 

 

Thanks in advanced.

Mick.

[iabass8]

I use high vis braid /w a fluoro leader on one rod and straight 7# fluoro on another. when the rod with straight fluoro runs out i'll be switching back to braid/fluoro leader. i love and religiously fish straight fluoro for just about everything  but i ultimately prefer the braid/fluoro leader on spinning tackle. I would only be concerned about visibility issues if I were fishing straight high vis braid but the 4-5'  fluoro leader eliminates that factor.

 

Seeing the bite is a big factor in high vis lines. I personally only have it on my spinning rods for light jigs for walleye in the spring and fall where high vis lines are almost a necessity. My rods are ridiculously sensitive that I feel slightest tick more often than not. If I don't the high vis line is very easy to see moving in any direction. If there is a lot of wind, I go straight fluoro because you get more direct contact with your bait on slack line.

 

 

If you are going high vis braid, just pick the brand you like and a color you can see in most conditions. not all high vis braid is as visible as you think in all conditions. I personally can't see blaze orange well at night but yellow sticks out like a sore thumb. ironically enough low light daylight blaze orange is more visible to me than yellow. 

[Cabbage_donkey]

thank you very much for the info iabass8, very helpful!!

[duckmaster55]

Sufix Elite 14lb Lo-Vis Green Mono or Vanish Transition 12lb fluoro in clear/gold color

[Hogsticker]

If you actually want to feel one of those subtle pick ups I would suggest straight fluoro - A good fluoro, Sniper, Tatsu will both do. They kinda play middle man between holy crap this line has way to much stretch and this stuff is to hard and stiff to not give me one serious tension headache. Yes, they are pricey, but you can get to reels done with minimal backing. I think the persons using a hi vis braid are straight line watchers. Even with a fluoro leader you will not feel the slack line bites as well as you would with a straight fluoro. Just because you're using straight fluoro doesn't mean you can't be a line watcher too. Give yourself every advantage you can. Now talk to meabout fluoro with other apps. and I'll say...well, good luck with that

[Cabbage_donkey]

I agree with your points, Hogsticker.......but watching the line is important especially during the 1st drop to the bottom IMO.

 

I've even heard of anglers just tying in a 4' length of tracer braid so they have a visual aid of slack line bites, but for me now your dealing with an extra knot.

 

I think the best thing for me is to take everyone's advice, try various techniques for the rest of the season and decide what works best for me.

 

Thanks for everyone's input!!!!

[Darren.]

I use 10 lb yellow Power Pro + leader on spinning gear, 20 lb yellow PP on bait casters.

 

Line watching is part of the reason. The other reason is that it is plain easier to see -- even when not line watching, per se.

 

I switched to hi-vis lines after reading Gary Yamamoto's rationale. Green and camo'd lines, for me, are just plain hard to see. Hi-vis is easier to watch a cast for knowing "hey, thumb reel now!"

 

And as for knots, yes, they can be seen as a weakness, but properly tied, they're not. I use, primarily, a modified albright/alberto for braid to leader. I caught my personal best of 7 1/2 lbs in thick slop with 10 lb braid + 10 lb leader. Nothing failed, obviously. And it wasn't luck. I've practiced tying knots over and over. I'm 100% confident in the leader knots I tie.

 

Edit: added link to Gary Yamamoto's spinning article.

Edited July 25, 2013 by DarrenM

[Cabbage_donkey]

Darren thank you for your input to this thread.

 

I currently only use the double-uni when tying braid to fluoro and as of yet its only let me down once, however it was shortly after catching a 4lb smallie and I remember my boat partner saying "careful, she's rolling" so I'm not sure if its a problem with the knot I tied or the smallies fin gave the line a kink somewhere.

 

that being said I will definitely experiment with the knots you use in the above post.

 

TY.

[JigMe]

I use 10 lb yellow Power Pro + leader on spinning gear, 20 lb yellow PP on bait casters.

 

Line watching is part of the reason. The other reason is that it is plain easier to see -- even when not line watching, per se.

 

I switched to hi-vis lines after reading Gary Yamamoto's rationale. Green and camo'd lines, for me, are just plain hard to see. Hi-vis is easier to watch a cast for knowing "hey, thumb reel now!"

 

And as for knots, yes, they can be seen as a weakness, but properly tied, they're not. I use, primarily, a modified albright/alberto for braid to leader. I caught my personal best of 7 1/2 lbs in thick slop with 10 lb braid + 10 lb leader. Nothing failed, obviously. And it wasn't luck. I've practiced tying knots over and over. I'm 100% confident in the leader knots I tie.

 

Edit: added link to Gary Yamamoto's spinning article.

 

what color Hi-vis do you use?white, yellow?

[Darren.]

what color Hi-vis do you use?white, yellow?

 

10 lb yellow (mention in first sentence)

[Darren.]

Darren thank you for your input to this thread.

 

I currently only use the double-uni when tying braid to fluoro and as of yet its only let me down once, however it was shortly after catching a 4lb smallie and I remember my boat partner saying "careful, she's rolling" so I'm not sure if its a problem with the knot I tied or the smallies fin gave the line a kink somewhere.

 

that being said I will definitely experiment with the knots you use in the above post.

 

TY.

 

Not quite sure what he might've meant, either. In my experience, when a fish spins or rolls, it isn't the knot I'm worried about, it's the abrasive rubbing  on the line if the line + hook are down in the mouth. Never seen a fish do a death roll that would twist the line to the point of snapping, though.

 

I used the uni-to-uni frequently until I learned the Albright and Albright Special/mod'd. It is a thinner profile knot than the uni-to-uni, so goes through guides better.

 

I've been watching videos recently of the Sebile/gt knot. Can't figure how to tie it yet, but the idea is like a Chinese finger trap...

[Cabbage_donkey]

yeah im still not 100% on what happened, that smallie was thrashing about pretty hard. after landing and a CPR, I casted out just to see my lure fly out to a watery grave, after inspection the line broke right in the middle of the double-uni, I check my knots 3 times before heading out onto the water.

 

Sometimes I wonder if on that particular day, the braid dug in too deep into the fluoro, therefore causing a weak point.