Snakehead Roundup

[Orpssab]

Any results on the snakehead roundup tournament on July 6TH ?

[BP10]

The results of the July 6 Round up are 15 teams checked in with 184 kills, total weight 658 pounds of fish and 43 bass caught. 1st Place was Matt Gill, and Jon Henry with a 9.84 pound monster, 2nd Steve Papp with a 8.96, 3rd Eddie, and Corey Nowakowski with a 8.52, 4th Jeremy, and Xavier Gilmore with a 8.48, and 5th was Daniel Plunske, and German Florez with a 8.26

[Traveler2586]

Where was this?

[Gotfishyfingers?]

I believe Margate, Fl

[CountBassula]

I believe Margate, Fl

 

yep, they do this down here every month i think... i was going to join, but after researching the issue and coming to a believe that snakeheads do not hurt the local environment but rather complement it, i decided not to partake in the extermination efforts. for me they're catch and release, unless i plan on cooking one up

 

M.

[Traveler2586]

yep, they do this down here every month i think... i was going to join, but after researching the issue and coming to a believe that snakeheads do not hurt the local environment but rather complement it, i decided not to partake in the extermination efforts. for me they're catch and release, unless i plan on cooking one up

 

M.

 

I recently read a study that found as the multiple yearly spawning increases the population in a given area, the preferred forage species in that area declines and their preferences of forage expands to other available fish species.  We truly do not yet understand what the long term effects of the fish will be, but computer models based on current data do not look good.  Plus they are finding the NS is more adaptable than first thought, with the help of well meaning anglers looking for a thrill they could spread throughout the country.  B.A.S.S. could be having NS and Asian Carp tournaments rather than Bass Tournaments in the next decade or two.

[CountBassula]

I recently read a study that found as the multiple yearly spawning increases the population in a given area, the preferred forage species in that area declines and their preferences of forage expands to other available fish species.  We truly do not yet understand what the long term effects of the fish will be, but computer models based on current data do not look good.  Plus they are finding the NS is more adaptable than first thought, with the help of well meaning anglers looking for a thrill they could spread throughout the country.  B.A.S.S. could be having NS and Asian Carp tournaments rather than Bass Tournaments in the next decade or two.

 

do you have a link to the study? I would like to ready it myself.

[Traveler2586]

do you have a link to the study? I would like to ready it myself.

 

I have it saved on my computer.  The paper is titled

 

"Will the Expansion of Northern Snakehead Negatively

Affect the Fishery for Largemouth Bass in the Potomac

River (Chesapeake Bay)?

Joseph W. Love & Joshua J. Newhard

 

Maryland Department of Natural Resources, Inland Fisheries, 580 Taylor Avenue, Annapolis,

Maryland, 21401, USA

 

U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Maryland Fishery Resources Office, 177 Admiral Cochrane

Drive, Annapolis, Maryland, 21401, USA

Version of record first published: 10 Sep 2012."

 

It's in a PDF format, can we post PDF's here?  This is a long scientific paper so it will take some time to read and comprehend.

[CountBassula]

I have it saved on my computer.  The paper is titled

 

"Will the Expansion of Northern Snakehead Negatively

Affect the Fishery for Largemouth Bass in the Potomac

River (Chesapeake Bay)?

Joseph W. Love & Joshua J. Newhard

 

Maryland Department of Natural Resources, Inland Fisheries, 580 Taylor Avenue, Annapolis,

Maryland, 21401, USA

 

U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Maryland Fishery Resources Office, 177 Admiral Cochrane

Drive, Annapolis, Maryland, 21401, USA

Version of record first published: 10 Sep 2012."

 

It's in a PDF format, can we post PDF's here?  This is a long scientific paper so it will take some time to read and comprehend.

 

Here's the PDF: http://www.fws.gov/northeast/marylandfisheries/reports/Love%20and%20Newhard%202012.pdf

[Traveler2586]

Two things of note from the report.  Review references for additional information; and note the dates of the references as some are out of date by new studies, i.e. NS movement to new territory is limited to heavy rain periods has been found inaccurate.

 

Also I was referencing in part -  "In habitats of co-occurrence, predation can influence survivorship of juvenile largemouth bass and predation threat may negatively influence growth (Gilliam and Fraser 1987). If growth of age-0 largemouth bass is inhibited by northern snakehead, then odds of [LMB] survivorship may be lower and recruitment negatively influenced. While not studied here, competition between adult northern snakehead and adult largemouth bass for limited resources may also negatively affect recruitment of bass if resources limit their gonad development or nest building behavior. "

Bottom line for Marylanders - "There are no known natural predators for large northern snakehead in North America, aside from humans and possibly some birds of prey. Thus, control measures aimed at human removal of northern snakehead from all habitats, particularly newly colonized ones, is strongly encouraged for continued protection of aquatic ecosystems."

[Diggy]

That study is totally different from the Bullseye variant we have here in So Fl

[DelfiBoyz_One_and_Only]

Birds of prey are going to be a big problem for the spread of the northern Snakehead. The Biologist here at Fort Belvoir has told me of 3 incidents where Snakeheads have fallen from the sky. The Northern Snakehead is a strong fish and the ospreys that grab them cannot hang on to them, they wiggle out of there talons.  There are a lot of places where snakeheads are not yet introduced to but could get to with the help of a osprey like the Occoquan Res.  If a Snakehead gets picked up below the d**n and dropped at the top of the dam into the resevoir,waterways all the way into central Va are going to be effected.  These fish are out of control and although I like catching them, I also like having the opportunity to be able to catch other types of fish.  I agree with some of the people that say they will eventually take over a whole waterway given enough time.

 

 

Jay

[Traveler2586]

IMHO the NS is here to stay and it's only a matter of time before someone just for kicks, or something trying to get dinner, spreads them to other lakes and rivers in our area.  Based on the history of Anglers spreading fish, like the white bass, to their favorite lake or pond, I worry more about the someone rather than the something.

 We know know the NS are spreading throughout the Chesapeake Bay region on their own and their more adaptable to the salinity than first thought; so far the biologist have underestimated the NS's ability to adapt, so given time I bet they will spread along the inter-coastal water way to populate the east coast on their own.

 

So gear up people, the NS will replace the LMB as the sport fish to go after.

 

Who wants to start the new Northern Snakehead  Anglers Society (N.S.A.S.) and publish a new mag called "Snakehead Masters" 

[BP10]

Where was this?

this is all over broward county  not a specific lake or canal system  its basically if you have rod n reel and ice chest , no boat needed 

[rvadog]

Hmmm...I haven't even seen a snakehead. Any good target spots? Do they feed in this heat or is it better fishing in the fall and winter? 

[Diggy]

Hmmm...I haven't even seen a snakehead. Any good target spots? Do they feed in this heat or is it better fishing in the fall and winter? 

you can fish them year round in south fl but its better when its hot as they are more active

 

goto tamarac, coral springs, margate

 

 

you can try the canals off of sample rd starting at sawgrass and work east, look on google maps for canals

[CountBassula]

you can fish them year round in south fl but its better when its hot as they are more active

 

goto tamarac, coral springs, margate

 

 

you can try the canals off of sample rd starting at sawgrass and work east, look on google maps for canals

 

yep, tons of them in coral springs, my brother got one on a SENKO!!! today!!! no kidding!!!

[Backyard Bandit]

I was hoping to do better than fifth this tourny, but i can say that i have seen quite a decrease in the SH population in Springs, tamarac, and margate because of these Round ups. I do enjoy catching them as I target them and end up catching plenty of bass.

[Diggy]

One of my friends fishes the tournaments and I didn't realize there was another one that just past until another member posted about it. I asked my friend how it went and he said people are complaining that there aren't many big snakeheads around. The tournaments are monthly and for "population control" but now "I have heard" that they may cut the schedule of them down a bit to help with the numbers and fish size for the tournament. I'm just stating what was told to me. It seems counterproductive to the original purpose of "population control" if true, but I guess when enough people start to complain, stop paying to play, things may have to be adjusted from a financial and enjoyment standpoint. People have been complaining about the normal winners that seem to be always winning. The guys catching giants because they know all the good spots from fishing everyday.

 

I wonder what was expected if you have that many numbers of anglers coming out to the tournaments killing 100s at a time when plentiful, the daily anglers out there killing them all year alongside the FWC's normal sweeps. Usually the spawn is easy pickins but the fry get clobbered by bass once the adults are gone, Ive witnessed this 1st hand. Ive seen less spawning pairs than I normally do in the normal places, maybe they have relocated to a private resort. Now with the popularity of catching them it seems more people are fishing for them, many catch and release but it seems many more still kill them. You have to go into gated communities and less traveled/ accessible areas many times to catch a few. Some days we may get lucky and catch a bunch but the normal spots have become over fished. Has anyone else noticed the same trend or is it just me? I may start my own no kill tournament one day if allowed which would need volunteers to be with teams to officially weigh, measure each fish and also take pics. Everything can be tallied up at the end of the day....If I were President

 

 

I was hoping to do better than fifth this tourny, but i can say that i have seen quite a decrease in the SH population in Springs, tamarac, and margate because of these Round ups. I do enjoy catching them as I target them and end up catching plenty of bass.

 

yessir

[CountBassula]

One of my friends fishes the tournaments and I didn't realize there was another one that just past until another member posted about it. I asked my friend how it went and he said people are complaining that there aren't many big snakeheads around. The tournaments are monthly and for "population control" but now "I have heard" that they may cut the schedule of them down a bit to help with the numbers and fish size for the tournament. I'm just stating what was told to me. It seems counterproductive to the original purpose of "population control" if true, but I guess when enough people start to complain, stop paying to play, things may have to be adjusted from a financial and enjoyment standpoint. People have been complaining about the normal winners that seem to be always winning. The guys catching giants because they know all the good spots from fishing everyday.

 

I wonder what was expected if you have that many numbers of anglers coming out to the tournaments killing 100s at a time when plentiful, the daily anglers out there killing them all year alongside the FWC's normal sweeps. Usually the spawn is easy pickins but the fry get clobbered by bass once the adults are gone, Ive witnessed this 1st hand. Ive seen less spawning pairs than I normally do in the normal places, maybe they have relocated to a private resort. Now with the popularity of catching them it seems more people are fishing for them, many catch and release but it seems many more still kill them. You have to go into gated communities and less traveled/ accessible areas many times to catch a few. Some days we may get lucky and catch a bunch but the normal spots have become over fished. Has anyone else noticed the same trend or is it just me? I may start my own no kill tournament one day if allowed which would need volunteers to be with teams to officially weigh, measure each fish and also take pics. Everything can be tallied up at the end of the day....If I were President

 

 

 

yessir

 

several times now i've seen people fishing for them along the small canal behind my house (I can tell they're going for snakeheads because of the top water fast moving rubber toads they're using) and even few guys on a boat. ever since them my canal appears to have 1/10 of the snakeheads it had 6 months ago i'm guessing they're killing them

[Diggy]

several times now i've seen people fishing for them along the small canal behind my house (I can tell they're going for snakeheads because of the top water fast moving rubber toads they're using) and even few guys on a boat. ever since them my canal appears to have 1/10 of the snakeheads it had 6 months ago i'm guessing they're killing them

Summer is almost done, people will be going back to school and college which I think will def cut the fishing back a bit....I hope

[Shane Procell]

Jason from JD'sCustomBaits told me that they had 29 teams bring in over 1000 lbs. of snakeheads. That a lot of fish.

[Diggy]

Jason from JD'sCustomBaits told me that they had 29 teams bring in over 1000 lbs. of snakeheads. That a lot of fish.

at the last one?

[CountBassula]

Jason from JD'sCustomBaits told me that they had 29 teams bring in over 1000 lbs. of snakeheads. That a lot of fish.

 

those poor poor snakeheads... now that i think about it the guys i saw in my canal where there on a weekend in a boat and i bet they were participating... explains why there are no more snakeheads in my canal

[BP10]

One of my friends fishes the tournaments and I didn't realize there was another one that just past until another member posted about it. I asked my friend how it went and he said people are complaining that there aren't many big snakeheads around. The tournaments are monthly and for "population control" but now "I have heard" that they may cut the schedule of them down a bit to help with the numbers and fish size for the tournament. I'm just stating what was told to me. It seems counterproductive to the original purpose of "population control" if true, but I guess when enough people start to complain, stop paying to play, things may have to be adjusted from a financial and enjoyment standpoint. People have been complaining about the normal winners that seem to be always winning. The guys catching giants because they know all the good spots from fishing everyday.

 

I wonder what was expected if you have that many numbers of anglers coming out to the tournaments killing 100s at a time when plentiful, the daily anglers out there killing them all year alongside the FWC's normal sweeps. Usually the spawn is easy pickins but the fry get clobbered by bass once the adults are gone, Ive witnessed this 1st hand. Ive seen less spawning pairs than I normally do in the normal places, maybe they have relocated to a private resort. Now with the popularity of catching them it seems more people are fishing for them, many catch and release but it seems many more still kill them. You have to go into gated communities and less traveled/ accessible areas many times to catch a few. Some days we may get lucky and catch a bunch but the normal spots have become over fished. Has anyone else noticed the same trend or is it just me? I may start my own no kill tournament one day if allowed which would need volunteers to be with teams to officially weigh, measure each fish and also take pics. Everything can be tallied up at the end of the day....If I were President

 

 

 

yessir

they only do them in the summer months as far as i know not cutting tourneys out  ,   the fish r here to stay they wont go anywhere even if they do these tourneys all 12 months of the year    i had 2 huge ones break off in the c-14 one next to boat one in the weeds,  so the big ones are out there