Super User deaknh03 Posted July 17, 2013 Super User Posted July 17, 2013 Don't worry, I have all the protection I need.... It's ironic that everything is covered in tinfoil, except for the hat. 2
derekxec Posted July 17, 2013 Posted July 17, 2013 hahaha except the hat just so no one took my first post the wrong way i like facebook and use it everyday i just dont think its going to last much longer
Hyrule Bass Posted July 17, 2013 Posted July 17, 2013 and every person that works for Facebook. Once you open an account or post something, its their's, forever. you cannot delete your account, merely deactivate it. and there are ways to get into private accounts, many people know how to do it. I'm not starting a peeing contest, just saying my opinion is that no matter how secure they say you are, your not. honestly though, i could care less. i dont post anything i dont want seen by others, its that simple. only you control what you post and put out there, facebook has no control over that, they dont force you to post pictures and comments and like things, etc...thats all on the user. this is why i dont get the extreme sense of paranoia some people have over it either. if someone wants to hack you or get your info, they dont need facebook to do it. someone could get your info through your tackle warehouse order or even from you having signed up to this forum. no matter how secure something claims to be, there is most always a way for someone to get around it and access info. and that info can be used to get other info about you and so on. just having the internet itself is all it takes...
Super User J Francho Posted July 17, 2013 Super User Posted July 17, 2013 The only time my personal info was ever stolen was my bank's fault. Yes, my bank. Not FB. Not a forum. Not eBay. Not through an online store. Not Twitter. Not through some phishing scam or fraud email. My bank. Go figure.
Super User deaknh03 Posted July 17, 2013 Super User Posted July 17, 2013 The only time my personal info was ever stolen was my bank's fault. Yes, my bank. Not FB. Not a forum. Not eBay. Not through an online store. Not Twitter. Not through some phishing scam or fraud email. My bank. Go figure. Thats exactly it, I'm sure your bank is a lot more secure than FB. My point is, don't post stuff you don't want the wrong person to see, because it can happen.
Super User J Francho Posted July 17, 2013 Super User Posted July 17, 2013 Obviously, not. The issue was an unencrypted FTP feed to the main office that was intercepted. Thousands of customer accounts were leaked, and had to be changed. I work in the IT industry.... you'd be surprised what is and isn't secure. I have no worries about Facebook. Your paranoia in unfounded. Everyday, financial institutions are compromised, government records leaked. I have yet to hear of one time that someone's FB account was "hacked" without some user error or intervention. Apps that steal your info don't install themselves. I've never heard of someone's kid getting stolen or molested because they shared a picture on FB. The notion is highly, highly, highly unlikely, so long as you do not post things like, "My SS# is .... and my kids will be alone in an unlocked house at such and such address.." I know that sounds silly, but I sometimes wonder if that's what people believe. It's just social media. At any rate, if you think your world will be destroyed by using FB, then don't. It's just a little contest to bring new members into the fold. Can't argue with the benefits of that. 1
Traveler2586 Posted July 17, 2013 Posted July 17, 2013 But how many times have you heard of someone getting fired or not being hired because of posting an opinion or a photo on FB. And haven't we always been told that the more popular sites are targeted more by hackers. IMHO, I really don't think we need it for BR, if people can get to FB.com they can just as easy get to BassResource.com where we have more control. BTW, how do the Mods moderate FB.
PoorBoyBassin Posted July 17, 2013 Posted July 17, 2013 Obviously, not. The issue was an unencrypted FTP feed to the main office that was intercepted. Thousands of customer accounts were leaked, and had to be changed. I work in the IT industry.... you'd be surprised what is and isn't secure. I have no worries about Facebook. Your paranoia in unfounded. Everyday, financial institutions are compromised, government records leaked. I have yet to hear of one time that someone's FB account was "hacked" without some user error or intervention. Apps that steal your info don't install themselves. I've never heard of someone's kid getting stolen or molested because they shared a picture on FB. The notion is highly, highly, highly unlikely, so long as you do not post things like, "My SS# is .... and my kids will be alone in an unlocked house at such and such address.." I know that sounds silly, but I sometimes wonder if that's what people believe. It's just social media. At any rate, if you think your world will be destroyed by using FB, then don't. It's just a little contest to bring new members into the fold. Can't argue with the benefits of that. For some one that works in the IT industry... your slightly miss informed, Face book has been hacked several times this year alone! Starting back in Feb 15, 2013! Some they have admitted to, some they havent, but if you know what sites to visit you can clearly see it was indeed hacked, and even exploited to a point! Showing the script that was used to gain access an all. Now Im no hacker, but I do some that do know what their doing, even spend time in the federal pen, because of what they did, and I've seen the post on FB, an while FB has a decent team of IT tech's an they tend to get to the root of the problem rather quickly, most times before any real damage can be done, or sensitive info compramised. But DONT think for a moment, that FB is secure , not 100% anyway, and while your sitting there on your FB account rest assured that the goverment see's ALL! Ive never owned a FB account, and not because any other reason other than I've never needed one. How secure or unsecure a site is, well there's none out there that are 100% secure, and thats a fact. BR is no dif then any other site, and could be gottin into just like any other one. I love this site.. an would never want to see anything happen to it... To many awesome things come from here and thats how it should stay always. FB ehhhh... it is what it is.. secure or not... there's poeple that will use it regardless of either.
Hyrule Bass Posted July 17, 2013 Posted July 17, 2013 But how many times have you heard of someone getting fired or not being hired because of posting an opinion or a photo on FB. And haven't we always been told that the more popular sites are targeted more by hackers. IMHO, I really don't think we need it for BR, if people can get to FB.com they can just as easy get to BassResource.com where we have more control. BTW, how do the Mods moderate FB. about the fired or not hired thing, i think you would have to question the integrity of the person who posted said comment or picture, not the employer or potential employer. also, employers have done background checks for years, its nothing new, facebook is just another thing they can check. so why is it a problem now and not a problem pre-facebook? also, there is a big difference between facebook and a forum. i wont go into a ton of details naming differences, most are pretty obvious though. facebook is another way for bassresource to expand its brand and interact with fishermen around the web. some people may like one format over the other, its personal preference, i dont see why BR having a facebook would get some people up in arms over it, you dont have to follow it if you dont want to... For some one that works in the IT industry... your slightly miss informed, Face book has been hacked several times this year alone! Starting back in Feb 15, 2013! Some they have admitted to, some they havent, but if you know what sites to visit you can clearly see it was indeed hacked, and even exploited to a point! Showing the script that was used to gain access an all. Now Im no hacker, but I do some that do know what their doing, even spend time in the federal pen, because of what they did, and I've seen the post on FB, an while FB has a decent team of IT tech's an they tend to get to the root of the problem rather quickly, most times before any real damage can be done, or sensitive info compramised. But DONT think for a moment, that FB is secure , not 100% anyway, and while your sitting there on your FB account rest assured that the goverment see's ALL! Ive never owned a FB account, and not because any other reason other than I've never needed one. How secure or unsecure a site is, well there's none out there that are 100% secure, and thats a fact. BR is no dif then any other site, and could be gottin into just like any other one. I love this site.. an would never want to see anything happen to it... To many awesome things come from here and thats how it should stay always. FB ehhhh... it is what it is.. secure or not... there's poeple that will use it regardless of either. i think youre missing the point here. people want to complain FB isnt private and all your info is there for people to see or get. well even without FB, all your info is available somewhere. the same things can happen on other sites or even if youre not online. someone who has never been online or even used a computer can have their info compromised by people with malicious intent. j francho hit the nail on the head with his post i think. he said it best with "Your paranoia is unfounded". if youre scared of info someone might get about you on facebook, you might as well just cancel your internet and use your computer for target practice, smash your cellphone, cancel your credit cards and close all bank accounts, sell your house and move into the remote forests and live off the grid, of course people can still find info on you if they really want to...so yeah you might as well just off yourself too...my point is, a hacker can pick a random name in a phonebook and get all the info they want about you from just that... (im not telling anyone to off themselves, just using it as a figure of speech to get my point across)
Super User J Francho Posted July 18, 2013 Super User Posted July 18, 2013 Citing hacks on FB as reasons for BassResource.com not to use it to promote our forums is like saying not to put your money in the bank because they get robbed. We use FB to spread the word about our great community here. Nothing more, nothing less.
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted July 18, 2013 Super User Posted July 18, 2013 I decided not to get a FB account for fear that there may be a global meltdown of the internet from the millions of people rushing to be my "friend" LOL, JK. I don't have a FB because I would end up posting something stupid that would get me in trouble.
Super User SirSnookalot Posted July 18, 2013 Super User Posted July 18, 2013 Francho is perfectly correct. The negativity against FB is promoted by people that just don't care for the format, in that case don't use it. If hacker wants to hack the opportunities are endless even without the use of FB. I've had credit cards (identity theft) hacked from a secure site (https), in some cases the bank notified me and in others it slipped thru them and I caught it. Each and every time the charges were dismissed and a new card issued. If there is a concern about pictures, whether it be on FB, BR or any place on the net, turn off the gps location in your smartphone camera.
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted July 18, 2013 BassResource.com Administrator Posted July 18, 2013 This has REALLY gone off track from the original post. But for the record, I've been "online" since '87 and the only time I had any issue was when all of my credit card info from three different banks were simultaneously stolen (identity theft). Found out later a crime ring had "hacked" into one of the credit reporting agencies and stole hundreds of thousands of credit card info and sold them on the black market. i was one of them. As for FB - as I mentioned before, some folks prefer it and others despise it. We use it as another method to keep in touch with those that prefer it. If you don't like FB, then by all means don't use it. We're not trying to force anyone to do anything they don't want to. At any rate, this "debate" is going nowhere. Whether you like FB or not, to each his own. There's no right or wrong answer here, so let's let it lie. Glenn 1
Traveler2586 Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Yes, i think we beat this dead horse enough. I wish my son would read some of this, I think he would roll his eyes at us; he just left Microsoft after fifteen years for FB to rework FB's core code. A parent can only do so much.....
Scorcher214 Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 facebooks time has about run its course im going to put money on it going the way of myspace in the next couple of years Myspace was cool when I was in middle school... 1
derekxec Posted July 21, 2013 Posted July 21, 2013 For some one that works in the IT industry... your slightly miss informed, Face book has been hacked several times this year alone! Starting back in Feb 15, 2013! Some they have admitted to, some they havent, but if you know what sites to visit you can clearly see it was indeed hacked, and even exploited to a point! Showing the script that was used to gain access an all. Now Im no hacker, but I do some that do know what their doing, even spend time in the federal pen, because of what they did, and I've seen the post on FB, an while FB has a decent team of IT tech's an they tend to get to the root of the problem rather quickly, most times before any real damage can be done, or sensitive info compramised. But DONT think for a moment, that FB is secure , not 100% anyway, and while your sitting there on your FB account rest assured that the goverment see's ALL! Ive never owned a FB account, and not because any other reason other than I've never needed one. How secure or unsecure a site is, well there's none out there that are 100% secure, and thats a fact. BR is no dif then any other site, and could be gottin into just like any other one. I love this site.. an would never want to see anything happen to it... To many awesome things come from here and thats how it should stay always. FB ehhhh... it is what it is.. secure or not... there's poeple that will use it regardless of either. JFrancho is right...your bank alone has probably been hacked more times than you can count this year...the FBI gets upset about it too because most banks wont report attacks to the authorities or to anyone else for fear of people not trusting that bank...you would be surprised how easy it is to ransom a bank and get away with it...it happens all the time
Traveler2586 Posted July 21, 2013 Posted July 21, 2013 JFrancho is right...your bank alone has probably been hacked more times than you can count this year...the FBI gets upset about it too because most banks wont report attacks to the authorities or to anyone else for fear of people not trusting that bank...you would be surprised how easy it is to ransom a bank and get away with it...it happens all the time What independently verifiable data do you base your statement on???
derekxec Posted July 22, 2013 Posted July 22, 2013 go work for a bank for a few i bet within the first month you hear about at least 1 time my fiancee has worked for a few banks for the last 12 years or so and she has told me about it happening lots...ive even had friends do it and they dont have a problem tossing over 5k or so to keep it quiet
Traveler2586 Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 go work for a bank for a few i bet within the first month you hear about at least 1 time my fiancee has worked for a few banks for the last 12 years or so and she has told me about it happening lots...ive even had friends do it and they dont have a problem tossing over 5k or so to keep it quiet Are you saying you have friends that have hit banks and banks don't have a problem tossing over 5K to keep it quiet??? My daughter is Vice President and Chief Operations Officer of a financial organization that deals directly with banks across the country. I just read this thread to her and her response was "Dad, do you believe banks are successfully attacked and held ransom that frequently and the media would not get wind of it; they would have to report every successful attack"..... "postings of bank black mail are here-say of urban rumor" "Yes banks receive thousands of attempts, but todays software is strong, networked, and intelligent to profile the attacker...... a world wide network of security groups eventually gain enough information to track attacks to their source" She adds "a much larger threat is the minimum wage individual in a medical office that has unrestricted access to all of your personal data, and gets access to your credit card when you pay your co-pay" She knew that would get my blood boiling.
derekxec Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 "Dad, do you believe banks are successfully attacked and held ransom that frequently and the media would not get wind of it; they would have to report every successful attack"..... "postings of bank black mail are here-say of urban rumor" "Yes banks receive thousands of attempts, but todays software is strong, networked, and intelligent to profile the attacker...... ^^that kind of thinking is exactly why its so easy to do it...and the fbi regularly complains about banks not reporting the attacks because it would get out and who would put their money in a bank like this? the fbi says 10%(not positive on this number but its very low) of attacks get reported and beg all banks to report the attacks but they just dont do it...also a lot of exploits tunnel through all that security...you can also look up man in the middle attacks that have been around since the 80s and see why you can still do it today
Super User J Francho Posted July 23, 2013 Super User Posted July 23, 2013 Seems like this has run it's course. 1
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