BasshunterJGH Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 The senkos catch fish in almost all conditions for me. They'll bite the shim e stiks if the fish are on a good senko bite though. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted September 25, 2014 Global Moderator Posted September 25, 2014 In my experience the original Senko is a superior bait when fishing weightless. If I'm doing anything else with them I'll go with a Bass Pro stick O. Honestly the only time I fish the original any more is during tournaments. I catch a lot of bass on the Stick O and they're way cheaper and more durable. The Strike King Ocho is a good bait and a little bit cheaper option than the Senkos. Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted September 25, 2014 Super User Posted September 25, 2014 No stick I've tried produces like the original senko. With mend it and parasite clips they are worth EVERY penny. 1 Quote
Jake_M123 Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 Trust me guys the color defiantly plays a factor may not be a huge one but it does. The waters I fish are gin clear so if I throw non natural color I may get bit by the small undersized bass and not a lot . But when I throw a natural color I will get bit at least at a 5-1 ratio. As to getting quality compared to quantity I will throw a jig and I can usually get that bigger bite I'm looking for in a tournament. Put it this way all stick-baits worms work it's just a matter of conditions that cause the bites. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted September 25, 2014 Super User Posted September 25, 2014 I feel sorry for people who think they need to use yamamotos. I'll put my results with knockoffs up against anyone's results with Gary's, but it would be embarrassing for the yamamoto fan boys. 2 Quote
Preytorien Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 I've used both and don't see much difference. I like th Shim-E-Stiks in red shad pretty well. My new favorite is the SK Ocho.....it sinks much faster though I've found. Quote
boostr Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 This past summer I was using Senko green pumpkin, lost the bait on every bite and hook up. When I ran out I opened a new bag of Pumpkin Black Flake Shimee sticks, and was still killing it. The difference was I still had the same Shimme stick on after several bites and hook ups. Quote
Super User CWB Posted September 26, 2014 Super User Posted September 26, 2014 I like Shimee Sticks also. Tiki Sticks Super Soft Pro are every bit as good as Senkos IMO. Google the youtube video. Havoc Flat Dawgs probably have the best wiggle on the fall but are one fish, or even one hookset baits. Tried them for the first time last weekend and caught five bass on five casts around a dock but had to put on a new bait each cast. Choices, choices. BPS Sticko's aren't bad but I only buy them when they are on sale and from the store so I can actually take out a bait and feel the softness and consistency as some of these feel like bubble gum cigars and some are super soft. Seems to vary color to color. The softer ones work just fine and are a good value. Quote
Tim Bassmaster Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 I have used several stick type baits and have only had real success with shim e stick specifically in their exclusive color called sweet tater pie. It's my go to fall bait now not only is it the exact colors of fall foliage but it catches multiple bass in a day and quality size bass. I do not whacky rig them I use a black football head jig with red eyes, screw lock , and red hooks. I texpose the hook, drop it out, reel, pop pop with the rod, reel , pop pop with the rod....you get the idea, drives bass crazy! And even if you lose most of your worm after catching a couple of fish, as long as a small piece of the shim e stick is left on the jig head, keep casting I've caught really quality size bass with nothing left on my jig head but a tiny piece of my shim e stick left attached. Don't believe me? I have video to prove this. Take my advice. Outfish the rest . 1 Quote
ClackerBuzz Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 Shim E Sticks don't work. Senkos don't work. Dingers don't work. BPS Stik-O don't work. Try a crankbait. 2 Quote
Pro Logcatcher Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 On 7/11/2013 at 4:10 PM, annexation said: Me and my dad frequently fish the local mill pond together - he throws Watermelon green Shim E Sticks and I throw green pumpkin senkos. Guess who catches more? Depends on the day, my friend. Depends on the day. My point is, they both catch like crazy. Put either of them in a fish's face and they will slam it. They both have their strengths, so it comes down to user preference. Inch for inch, the Yamamotos are noticably heavier and cast farther. The Shim E Sticks are more endurant and quite a bit less expensive. I like them both, and Yum Dingers, too. X2 Quote
Super User bowhunter63 Posted October 9, 2017 Super User Posted October 9, 2017 Shim E sticks work great on the river,Green Pumpkin is my go to.I have used Senkos and cant really see a difference. Quote
GreenGhostMan Posted October 9, 2017 Posted October 9, 2017 I had a bag of green pumpkin shim-e-sticks and couldn't get a bite on them... Ended up throwing them in my old plastics pile to be melted down and molded into something else. I probably didn't give them enough time, but they just felt cheap to me. I had no confidence in them. Quote
Super User tcbass Posted October 10, 2017 Super User Posted October 10, 2017 On 9/24/2014 at 5:40 PM, Comfortably Numb said: Little "stick bait" info for ya. A "Senko" is only made by Gary Yamamoto. No other name brand or generic stick bait should be called a Senko. Kinda like all stick on bangages are not "Band Aids". Not all tissues are "Kleenex" A Senko has a couple major differences to other sticks. Softer. They almost always are softer than other brands. This gives them that special "shimmy" on fall. The softer ANY bait is makes it less durable. Heavier/sinks faster. Most Senkos are around 11g (more clear colors can be lighter). The salt in any stick is used as ballast to make it sink. Senkos use more salt then other brands. The plastic does not bond to the salt and make the bait less duable. Sticks come in many shapes. Skinnier, fatter, hex, etc. This obviously effects action. I am not a believer in scent, but some are so this could be considered a factor. If they dont come pre-scented you can add your favorite yourself. After many years of fishing sticks, I have never found color to be a major factor, as long as the fish can see it. However I always agree that if a color gives YOU confidence then it is a plus. Lately us hand injectors have pretty much perfected the original GYBC Senko recipe using salt, and a modified one that uses silicone sand (fine glass beads) as ballast insted of salt. The plastic seems to bond to the sand and actually makes the plastic more durable. A GYBC licensed Senko mold is also now available. I doubt the major companies will catch on a a more durable bait equals less sales. The sand also is abrasive and hard on the equipment. Making Senkos more durable would be bad business for GY. Obviously if Senkos lasted longer they would sell less of them. I use this and one Senko can last for dozens and dozens of fish. Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted October 10, 2017 Super User Posted October 10, 2017 Senko "Fan Boy" checking in...... There is one thing that you can count on in every Senko vs XXXXXX thread and that is there are Senko believers and non-believers. And guess what.....you are not going to convince either one that their opinion is the right one. Some Facts: Senkos will last if you use the right hooks and the proper rigging. I have caught 15 hard fighting smallmouth on one Senko before. Texas rigged. It's easy to match the shape and size of a Senko, you can even duplicate the weight (although as has been mentioned there are different weights depending on color and flake), you can add salt, silica, scent or whatever you think the magic ingredient is but there's one thing you can't duplicate and that's the formula. There's only 2 people who know that and it's Gary and the guy that runs the pour floor and they ain't tellin!! The one ingredient that ALL of these have in common is Confidence. Throw what you have confidence in. 1 Quote
Super User Jeff H Posted October 10, 2017 Super User Posted October 10, 2017 A great alternative to the Yamamoto is the Mister Twister Comida. Has a nice little wiggle to it on the drop and the weight is there. A bunch cheaper too. The bad??? Color selection is not as good as Yamamoto but it’s good enough for me. Quote
d-camarena Posted October 10, 2017 Posted October 10, 2017 Only one ive liked other than the senko is the ocho. But its just as fragile. I use dingers when im using a weight. Weightless is always a senko Quote
Jaderose Posted October 10, 2017 Posted October 10, 2017 I have found only 2 that remotely compare. Stik-o's and Bizzbaits. That's it. Quote
BuzzHudson19c Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 7 hours ago, d-camarena said: the ocho Ocho's are awesome. I love the KVD magic and Ghost minnow colors. Quote
Primus Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 Don't wacky rig much these days , so when I do I stick with the best which is the Senko. Quote
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