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I've had good success on senkos and gave the shim e sticks a try since they look and feel almost identical to the senkos and they're so much cheaper but I think I've caught only one bass on them.

Does anyone use them regularly and actually like them better than senkos? I'm wacky rigging them the same.

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I have tried the shime sticks as well as senkos, and to be honest I catch more on the original senko's. That's not to say the shim e sticks don't work but that is my experience with them. I mainly texas rig weightless with both. The bad part is the senkos are so soft that usually one fish per senko (sometimes 2). With that said though I don't through them away if the head is mangled, I put them in a bag and will use them wacky style. I have also tried the yum dingers as well with the same results.

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I use shim e sticks when I fun fish. They catch fish and at almost half the cost of a GY senko. When competing in a tournament I use GYs.

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I haven't had any success using the Shim e sticks. I went to Walmart a while ago and they had them on sale for $2 I think so I bought 5 packs in various colors. I have never caught a fish on them before and with senkos it's like you can't keep the fish off them

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Maybe my luck with them is a tad better, I've had good success with the strike king shim-e-sticks as well as the yum dingers. When I fish wacky or trig, I only use shim-e-sticks and dingers pretty much. GY Senkos are better, but it's hard to keep using them, burn through $$$$ pretty quick if you fish senko style worms a lot (which I do.)

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Maybe my luck with them is a tad better, I've had good success with the strike king shim-e-sticks as well as the yum dingers. When I fish wacky or trig, I only use shim-e-sticks and dingers pretty much. GY Senkos are better, but it's hard to keep using them, burn through $$$$ pretty quick if you fish senko style worms a lot (which I do.)

Agreed with that GYS are very expensive and IMO arent that durable when these FL bass hit em they rip em apart

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Thanks for your responses. It really may be a case of you get what you pay for.

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The shim e stiks are the ones i use. Watermelon with black flake. Ive had a fish on them in pretty much every body of water i fished this year. Ive never used the GY brand to do a comparison though.

LC

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Me and my dad frequently fish the local mill pond together - he throws Watermelon green Shim E Sticks and I throw green pumpkin senkos. Guess who catches more?

 

Depends on the day, my friend. Depends on the day.

 

My point is, they both catch like crazy. Put either of them in a fish's face and they will slam it. They both have their strengths, so it comes down to user preference. Inch for inch, the Yamamotos are noticably heavier and cast farther. The Shim E Sticks are more endurant and quite a bit less expensive. I like them both, and Yum Dingers, too.

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Try big bite, they make an affordable stickbait with some good colors, wave worm also makes a good one, had alot of success with th ocho by sk, the big bite are like 3 bucks a pack, waves bout th same but sk ocho is a tad more expensive, iv tried some of the cheaper ak models with not much success, maybe th fish kno thr cheaper??? Lol not really but sometimes it pay it pays to go cheap n sometimes it pays to bite th bullet n spend a little more. Like th thread above states, if u put it in thr face... Some ppl sat i get but more with a certain color or lure, but they probly throw thr fave alot more n give it more time in the water too. But also stated above, il fish a less expensive style for sure while practicing and while js fun fishing, i throw gama during fun fishing n strap in trokars on tourney day. Sam goes with plastics, if th fish are there, in time they will bite, js give them and baits alike an honest chance at it

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Me and my dad frequently fish the local mill pond together - he throws Watermelon green Shim E Sticks and I throw green pumpkin senkos. Guess who catches more?

Depends on the day, my friend. Depends on the day.

My point is, they both catch like crazy. Put either of them in a fish's face and they will slam it. They both have their strengths, so it comes down to user preference. Inch for inch, the Yamamotos are noticably heavier and cast farther. The Shim E Sticks are more endurant and quite a bit less expensive. I like them both, and Yum Dingers, too.

^^^What this guy said.

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I haven't tried those, but would kind of like to now. I know Ive been killen em with the kvd perfect plastic stick worms lately, but they don't last much longer than gy senkos. I like the bps brand too when the colors right.

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Yeah, Senkos cost too much and last too short.  It is what it is.  They catch fish better than most so you have to decide what's important to you.  When I looked around for alternatives a few years ago, I weighed 5" Senkos and they were 3/8 oz.  Most alternatives weigh significantly less, around 1/4 oz, so they sink slower and are more durable but have less of that seductive Senko wiggle.  The only brand I found at the same weight was from Wacky Worm - but they seem stiffer than Senkos.

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I haven't had any success using the Shim e sticks. I went to Walmart a while ago and they had them on sale for $2 I think so I bought 5 packs in various colors. I have never caught a fish on them before and with senkos it's like you can't keep the fish off them

This is exactly what I've experienced from using them. 

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For what it's worth I never have fished with a GYCB senko but I fish the shim E stick exclusively. Yes, I catch fish and pay 1/4 of the price when on sale.

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I haven't tried the Shim-E sticks, but have a few packs.

 

I'm tried Robos, Yum Dingers and Spankys.... all have had the same success as Senkos.

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I use both I find the trick is the senkos have an oil on them I assume some sorts of attractant . So what I do withe shim e sticks is add some bass attractant and man let me tell you give them a few days to fully absorb the sent and they will out fish senkos 4-1 and it's a hell of a lot cheaper. Here in Rhode Island I like to throw the green pumpkin black flake . I have fished both extensively

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Hmm...Every knock-off vs. a Senko... :dontknow:

 

I don't really fish them too much anymore. Although the Senko has produced most of my

best fish, I catch too many fish that aren't "special". I think there are better alternatives for

bigger bass in general. However, if I fish a "Senko", it is ONLY a GYCB Senko.

 

 

 

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I think all stick worms work well, but I do 100% believe the GYB line of Senkos is superior and worth the extra money since they offer so many colors that other companies do not make and add little subtle changes that I think make a big difference.

 

Just Imagine a pond that get's heavy fishig pressure. The majority of anglers are throwing worms and usually a stick bait, and we all cast to the same spots as the guy before us since we are all looking for cover and ambush points...Bass learn from experience and in a pond that is in my community only the small Bass under a year old will go near a senko, rattle trap, spinnerbait etc...I would imagine they see more than 30 stick baits pass by them each week, and if I can have a worm that is black and blue, only has large blue flake with some silver instead of the standard, that may be what causes the fish to strike.

 

I have yet to fish any Yamamoto soft bait that is not productive,and I think it is more than just the texture and action...Its the color patterns imo since the recipe is out there to make an identical Senko but what other company wants to spend all that money for production for hundreds of colors for each size senko, grub, etc....The OEM mixing GYB baits must be super busy all year long with the volume of sales and variety they offer.

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Little "stick bait" info for ya.

 

A "Senko" is only made by Gary Yamamoto. No other name brand or generic stick bait should be called a Senko. Kinda like all stick on bangages are not "Band Aids". Not all tissues are "Kleenex"

 

A Senko has a couple major differences to other sticks.

 

Softer. They almost always are softer than other brands. This gives them that special "shimmy" on fall. The softer ANY bait is makes it less durable.

 

Heavier/sinks faster. Most Senkos are around 11g (more clear colors can be lighter). The salt in any stick is used as ballast to make it sink. Senkos use more salt then other brands. The plastic does not bond to the salt and make the bait less duable.

 

Sticks come in many shapes. Skinnier, fatter, hex, etc. This obviously effects action.

 

I am not a believer in scent, but some are so this could be considered a factor. If they dont come pre-scented you can add your favorite yourself.

 

After many years of fishing sticks, I have never found color to be a major factor, as long as the fish can see it. However I always agree that if a color gives YOU confidence then it is a plus.

 

Lately us hand injectors have pretty much perfected the original GYBC Senko recipe using salt, and a modified one that uses silicone sand (fine glass beads) as ballast insted of salt. The plastic seems to bond to the sand and actually makes the plastic more durable. A GYBC licensed Senko mold is also now available.

 

I doubt the major companies will catch on a a more durable bait equals less sales. The sand also is abrasive and hard on the equipment. 

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