Super User flyfisher Posted July 8, 2013 Super User Posted July 8, 2013 i dont know about Tacomas, but regular wanglers do not have selectable lockers, only the Rubicon has selectable air lockers for both front and rear axles. The Rubicon does come standard with selectable lockers and they are electric lockers not air lockers and not available on other models. You can get the LSD on pretty much every model which will do just fine for the majority of people anyways and you will not be required to be in 4WL to use it. Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted July 8, 2013 Super User Posted July 8, 2013 Tundra for the win!!!!!! Jeff I looked into the Tundra when I bought my GMC. My main gripe with the Toyota (We've owned several Toyotas and the last two cars my wife has owned were Lexus) is trying to get it with the features I want. Some, such as a navigation system, were not available unless you got the sunroof, which I don't want, for example. To get what I wanted would have necessitated me buying a truck with a sticker price close to or over 50,000 dollars. I may be buying a new truck later this year, and I may look into the Toyota again. I think all of today's trucks are reliable and comfortable. For some it's brand loyalty. For others it's styling. For others, it's getting what you want at the best price. All things being equal, I'll likely end up with a GM product because a neighbor of mine is a service manager at a GM dealership, and he takes good care of me. When I need service, he picks up my truck on his way to work, and drops it off on his way home. That I get a good discount on parts and labor doesn't hurt either. Quote
(='_'=) Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 The Rubicon does come standard with selectable lockers and they are electric lockers not air lockers and not available on other models. You can get the LSD on pretty much every model which will do just fine for the majority of people anyways and you will not be required to be in 4WL to use it. i dont know about newer Rubicons, but on a friends 2006 Rubi, several times he lost the locker because the air hose would come undone, we would have to open the differential cover and put the air hose back in place.... maybe to fix the problem they are now electric?? i dont know, i havent been too much in the jeep thing for a couple of years now.... Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted July 8, 2013 Super User Posted July 8, 2013 Interesting. I never knew they had air lockers in there as i thought they were all electric. Quote
CxThree Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 My suggestion on trucks is always the same. If you think you need 4x4, you need it. If you live in an area where 4x4 can be useful, getting a 4x2 will hurt your resale possibilities too. I pull with a Toyota Sequoia 4x4 right now. Quote
Mr_Scrogg Posted July 8, 2013 Author Posted July 8, 2013 Well, I'm kinda shying away from the Fords, just did a little reading about the plugs on the 5.4 breaking due to them seizing cause of carbon build up. As much as I like the Tundras, kinda out of my price range. It won't be new, whatever I get. 5 years old or so. Did find a 07 Z71 4x4 with 55k. Nothing extravagant, looks like a solid truck. Wife likes the pics. 1 Quote
tate Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 I had my 2002 Silverado 2500HD from 2002 - 2011 and put 197k hard miles on it and truck was still in great shape. Use to pull a 22' enclosed race car trailer up and down the mountains of Pa and Ny so most miles were really hard. The truck was still good when I sold it but I was worried something must break at some point. I went with a 2011 F150 FX4 all stuffed out including the rear locking diff. Went with the twin turbo, 3.5L Ecoboost which has a tow rating of 11,500 which is actually higher than my 3/4 ton Chevy. No brand loyalty with me .... I was happy with my Chevy and my Ford but in 2011 the Chevy needed a facelift and some new technology. Quote
Mr_Scrogg Posted July 8, 2013 Author Posted July 8, 2013 I had my 2002 Silverado 2500HD from 2002 - 2011 and put 197k hard miles on it and truck was still in great shape. Use to pull a 22' enclosed race car trailer up and down the mountains of Pa and Ny so most miles were really hard. The truck was still good when I sold it but I was worried something must break at some point. I went with a 2011 F150 FX4 all stuffed out including the rear locking diff. Went with the twin turbo, 3.5L Ecoboost which has a tow rating of 11,500 which is actually higher than my 3/4 ton Chevy. No brand loyalty with me .... I was happy with my Chevy and my Ford but in 2011 the Chevy needed a facelift and some new technology. That 2500 have the 6.0, or Duramax? Quote
Super User slonezp Posted July 8, 2013 Super User Posted July 8, 2013 Tundra for the win!!!!!! Jeff 'bout time you took a new pic don'tcha think Tundra's are pretty sweet. I know 2 people with them and never heard them complain. Resale value is really high on toyota trucks as well. I've had issues with mine. Most were under warranty. Water pump was not. Still the best truck I've owned or driven. About to turn 100k and I hope to get another 200k out of it. I looked into the Tundra when I bought my GMC. My main gripe with the Toyota (We've owned several Toyotas and the last two cars my wife has owned were Lexus) is trying to get it with the features I want. Some, such as a navigation system, were not available unless you got the sunroof, which I don't want, for example. To get what I wanted would have necessitated me buying a truck with a sticker price close to or over 50,000 dollars. . Pay 30k and get a $150 Garmin for the dash. That's what I did Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted July 8, 2013 Super User Posted July 8, 2013 Ok, fine.....here is the most recent pic I have of it.... Quote
tate Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 That 2500 have the 6.0, or Duramax? It had the 6.0 so it use to work really hard on the hills .... fully loaded trailer was probably around 7500lbs. Use to need a good running start on the big hills to keep a fast pace. Great truck though ... never had any troubles with it. Quote
Super User slonezp Posted July 8, 2013 Super User Posted July 8, 2013 Looks like cover for fish to me!! Jeff posted a thread on dumping the trees into a lake but refused to post the GPS coordinates. I was disappointed to say the least. Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted July 8, 2013 Super User Posted July 8, 2013 Yesterday....here are some of the trees and stuff I dumoed in.... But seriously back on topic, get the most truck you can afford. Get the 4x4. And don't always get caught up in the mileage. My truck is about to turn over 100K, but it has been meticulously maintained, and would be a better buy for someone than the same said truck with half the miles, that was not taken care of properly. Mine is not for sale BTW!!!! Jeff Quote
aquaholic Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Well, I'm kinda shying away from the Fords, just did a little reading about the plugs on the 5.4 breaking due to them seizing cause of carbon build up. As much as I like the Tundras, kinda out of my price range. It won't be new, whatever I get. 5 years old or so. Did find a 07 Z71 4x4 with 55k. Nothing extravagant, looks like a solid truck. Wife likes the pics. i have a 5.4. As far as the spark plugs from what i hears its a big issue. Thats why you take it to a ford dealership and let the people who have to deal with it all day long replace them. The issue is only when taking them out, and if they break it off it becomes their problem not mine. They busted my dipstick and replaced it all free of charge last time i was in. I wouldnt let that spark plug issue discourage you if you find one you really like. Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted July 8, 2013 Super User Posted July 8, 2013 i have a 5.4. As far as the spark plugs from what i hears its a big issue. Thats why you take it to a ford dealership and let the people who have to deal with it all day long replace them. The issue is only when taking them out, and if they break it off it becomes their problem not mine. They busted my dipstick and replaced it all free of charge last time i was in. I wouldnt let that spark plug issue discourage you if you find one you really like. How does someone bust a dipstick? They must have gotten it cross threaded. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted July 8, 2013 Super User Posted July 8, 2013 How does someone bust a dipstick? They must have gotten it cross threaded. Trying to figure that out myself....I have heard of horror stories of changing spark plugs on teh ford motors but like they said above, let the dealership do it. There are special tools that are needed and with the right stuff it isn't to bad. Cracking a spark plug in the block is not a fun thing to get out...did it on my old Jeep once now every time i replace spark plugs they get anti-seize. Quote
aquaholic Posted July 9, 2013 Posted July 9, 2013 How does someone bust a dipstick? They must have gotten it cross threaded. thats what i said, they told me it happens all the time though.. Quote
martintheduck Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Well, I guess it's a no brainer then. 4WD is the bees knees. Now, F150 vs Silverado. Just kidding. I'm not picky. I'm a equal opportunity buyer when it comes to trucks. (Cars, I'm kinda picky... Subaru > everything else). I know one thing. Some people are PROUD of their truck. 2010 Silverado Z71 with 130k for $22,000. The search is on.... Been driving a chevy since 2005. First one bought new in 05', put 120k miles on it, never had a major problem, then some girl hit me and totaled me out. Bought a new one in 2011 and have 38k on it. Great trucks. Chevy-vs-ford-vs-toyota... blah blah.... I GENUINELY believe that with the technology today, any model will run well for 150k-200k before getting some kind of issue. Before I pulled the trigger on the 2011, I went and looked at Toyota's and Ford's.... ultimately decided on the chevy because I like the way it drives and feels behind the wheel. Toyota felt HUGEEEEEEEE. Behind the wheel of an f-150 just felt odd. Went back to chevy. Quote
fxdwgkd Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 There have only been two times I have ever needed 4wd to get a boat launched. Once years ago at a small lake that had a sand launch. The second, I was at Brookville Res. I backed down below the water line. This was on a concrete ramp and it was like my tires were spinning on ice. I couldn't even get up the ramp with an empty trailer. If not for 4wd that day I may have lost my truck. Quote
Mr_Scrogg Posted July 16, 2013 Author Posted July 16, 2013 Just an update. The WRX has now been sold. :cry4: I don't know what hurt worse, watching another man drive my baby away.... or watching that man choke it down 3 times before he finally got it going. But the look for a truck is in full force. Employed Bluebasser86 (Clayton) to run through craigslist ads since it's a pain for me to deal with the dealer ads. Thanks buddy. Found a few prospects, but the majority of them "I" have a issue with. Like a 1500 Sierra, 2 owner, less than 10k a year. But the first owner had a 5th Wheel Hitch installed. Why would you put a 5th Wheel hitch in a truck that wasn't a 2500? Needless to say, I'm kinda leary. SOOOOOO off the list it was scratched. Another was a F150 5.4L Triton. When I asked about the tow package and towing, he said "Oh yea, I borrow my Dad's Bobcat and pull it with my truck quite a bit." Ummmmmm..... No thank you. But I have found a 07 2500HD 6.0l with a little over 10k/year in mileage. At a GMC Dealer, and has a Lifetime Powertrain Warranty offered as long as the maintenance is done at their dealership. probably gonna look at it. Quote
kjfishman Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 98 percent of the time I haven't needed to engage 4 wheel drive to get in or off the water. There have been a few times when fishing some inland lakes in the U.P. both axles were in the water to launch so 4x4 was a must. Gas is getting so expensive it may be the economical choice to go with 2 wheel drive, We need a V6 diesel offering in 1/2 ton or mid size trucks in the U.S. then you can have economy and 4x4. Quote
derekxec Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 get whatever you think you need....if you are only going to be using the boat once every other month or so or if the ramps youll be going to arent insane then get the 2wd youll love the extra money you save on gas lol....if you think you might need the 4wd cause of the terrain where you live or your ramps are garbage then get the 4wd i have a 99 ford ranger and ive pulled a 17ft boat out of some crappy ramps...you just need to know how to drive and know your limits....that said even a 4wd wont help you if you dont know how to use it lol Quote
(='_'=) Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 why would gas mileage on 2WD be less than on a 4WD assuming the same vehicle?? for instance, the parts that make a jeep 4WD are 3 shafts and T case, overall i doubt its a 60 lb difference... and with hub locks as i have on mine, you can have the front wheels free, therefore neither one of the shafts (inner and front drive shaft) are spinning, thus, theres is no extra drag, only a little bit of extra weight... Quote
Super User slonezp Posted July 16, 2013 Super User Posted July 16, 2013 I believe it's the extra drag more so than the extra weight Quote
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