pudmunk Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 You got 100 bucks to blow on a "starter" set up Any suggestion or help, heck even a list would be appreciated. Quote
burce Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 Definitely some senkos and some 3/0-4/0 offset worm hooks. Ask the fishermen in your area what tends to work best Quote
Red Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 Spinnerbaits, trick worms, bullet weights, power worms, topwater baits, jigs, and some plastic craws. A rod and reel will also be needed. ;D Quote
backwater4 Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 Asst of worm wts (1/8-1/2) and hooks (Wide Gap 1/0-4/0) Asst of 7" worms, I like Berkley (blk, red shad, blue fleck) Asst of 4" worms, I like Luck E Strike Razors (blk, grn pump) 1/4 and 1/2 grass jigs 1/8-1/2 footballs Couple of buzzbaits and spinnerbaits.1/4 and 3/8 for now. Definitely a popper or two. A couple of crankbaits for various depths. I like Bandits. Just my .02 though. I forgot the Senkos, DON'T, 4" blk blue flk and watermelon Quote
MattinOK Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 Here's a couple of links that will provide some good info. http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1127239086/7 http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1158577137 Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted July 6, 2010 Super User Posted July 6, 2010 Where do you live at? Where do you fish? Bank or boat? Pond or reservoir or creek? Dropping a c-note for gear, you'll need different stuff depending on where you're at. Different parts of the country require different gear. Different waters required different gear. One example - If I'm going to be fishing farm ponds from the bank, the first piece of gear I get is going to be a good set of hip waders, that are sturdy and fit good because I know I'm going to be walking quite a bit in them. There are lots more examples, but I think you get the idea. Good luck - always be mindful of the fact that there is no such thing as too much gear. You don't have to take it all with you every time. Quote
Bass Junkie Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 Rods: Spinning- 7' Medium or Medium Light Action. Casting- 7' Medium action Reels: Spinning- 2500 series reel Casting- Low Profile, 6.2:1 or 6.3:1 Gear ratio. Needs to hold at least 100yds. of 12lb. Test line Line: Monofilament: Berkley Trilene XT, 10lb Clear Braid: Spider Wire Stealth bradi, 30lb. Green Lures: Spinnerbaits: Booyah! Pond Magic, 3/16 oz. in White, Strike King Red Eye 3/8oz in white, Mann's The Classic spinnerbait, 3/8oz. White Topwater: Rebel Pop-R, Black Back/Silver, or Silver Shad, or maybe Red Eye Perch or Ole Bass, Heddon's Tiny or Baby Torpedo in Baby Bass or Brown Crawdad, Spro Bronzeye Jr. in Leopard, and a Snag Proof Mouse in Grey. Crankbaits: Lucky Craft RC 1.5 Copper Perch, Storm SubWart in Bluegill, some guys like Rat-L-Traps, but I don't care much for 'em........ Plastics: Stanler Ribbit Frog in Baby Bass, Trick Stick, Dinger, Senko, ect. in Watermelon Pearl Laminate, Watermelon Red, or Craw Orange Swirl, Brush Hog, Jungle Hawg, ect. in Watermelon Red, Luck "E" Strike Razor Worm in Green Pumpkin. Swimbaits: Tru-Tungsten 4"Tru-Life swimbait, Bluegill colored. Terminal Tackle: 4/0 EWG Worm Hooks, 1/8oz and 1/4oz bullet sinkers, Split Ring Pliers, Split Shot, Scissors, HOOK SHARPENER. This is coming from my point of view as a bass angler, so take it for whatever you want, but here is what I suggest. First off, get your rods and reels. My personal favorites are the 7'ML Spinning, due to the fact that it casts a mile and a four or five pound fish can put up one serious fight on it, and the 7' MH casting rod, due to the fact that it can handle the frogs, but isn't overpowering on the fish. These are my preferences. For reels I reccomend a 2500 series spinning reel, or a 3000 if its from Daiwa, as their ratings are different from most others. 200 yards of 10lb test is what you are aiming for in line capacity, because this allows you to worry less about changing you line or running out, and also promotes better casting distance due to the larger diameter of the spool. For a casting reel I recommend getting the best you can afford, as this is one place where, if you skimp, you will regret it. It is difficult to get a good casting reel for less than $100, as most of the stuff under this wears out rather quickly. A 6.2:1 or 6.3:1 gear ratio is what you want to shoot for, as it has enough speed to burn spinnerbaits and frogs, but it still has enough power to haul in the frog fish with 10lbs of weeds on 'em. One note- casting reels take patience to learn. A LOT of patience in some cases, but more if you buy lesser quality reels. Ok, now for the line. Th two main kinds of line used fall into one of two categories, Braid or Mono. Fluorocarbon is an option, but as a beginner you will go through a lot of line. Trust me....... In the mono department all you really need is a spool of good 10lb. line, but if you are uncomfortable with that, 12lb is just as good. It pays to error on the side of caution. Berkley Trilene XT is a good choice, as it is abrasion resistant, and still ties well. Both of these facts are important to consider when choosing your line. In the braid department 30lb works well, but if you are putting it on your casting reel bump up the size to 50lb. I tried for quite a bit to use 30lb, but backlashes are very common, due to the smaller line diameter. Green Spider Wire Stealth is a good choice. So we are now at the fun part, the lures. Most lures fall into one of two categories, hard or soft. Simple, right? Not really.... Its a very confusing world when it comes to lures, because there are so many of them. The ones I listed above are proven producers that are relatively easy to fish, and most are inexpensive too. That allows you to buy a couple, so if you lose one you have back up. While this is not such a big factor while fishing out of a boat, when bank fishing it can really help out. Fishing these lures can be a challenge, and in all honesty it takes experience, however I will try to give a brief explanation to get you started. Spinnerbaits: Chuck and wind, for the most part. Toss the lure out and reel back at a medium pace, trying to stay near cover, and in the middle of the water column. Topwaters: Pop-R- Toss it out near any cover, let it set a few second than twitch it. If nothing happens, twitch it back to you in an erratic retrieve, with a few short pauses. Sometimes the fish want it twitched really fast, other times super slow. Experiment, and the fish will tell you before long. When the fish crash these things, the first thing you'll want to do is yank. DON'T! You'll lose more fish this way than setting to late. This was really hard for me to do when I started fishing, but know its instinct. As soon as you see the boil drop the rod tip to the water's surface, turn the handle of your reel once, and set the hook hard. It might seem hard or complicated, but after a while it becomes second nature. Torpedos, Bronzeye, Mouse- I fish all of these baits the same way. Toss them onto, in the case of the weedless lures, or near any likely structure, and let 'em set for a few seconds. If nothing bites, start retrieving them with short twitches, to make them jerk through the water. Its a whole lot easier to do once you see it. Throw in a pause at the end of the retrieve, then make your next cast. Crankbaits: Same thing as the spinnerbait, and don't be afraid to throw it into wood, as long as you start reeling before the lure hits the water. A few twitches during the retrieve doesn't hurt. Plastics: Ribbit Frogs- Texas Rig these weightless and fish 'em right on top of the water. Reel just fast enough to keep the lure on top of the water and kickin', and fish it around any cover you want. Dingers, ect.- Texas Rig weightless and toss around any cover you want. Let it fall all the way to the bottom, making sure to set the hook at any odd line movement. If nothing grabs it on the way down, let it set for 5 seconds, then tighten your line by raising resistance. If there is any resistance, set the hook. Everything Else- Texas Rig with one of the weights, depending on the depth of the water, then toss 'em near anything and everything and fish them reel slow with twitches and drags. Anything natural looking. Swimbaits: Toss the floating version around any shallow cover and just let it set. A lot of the time the fish will hit hit when its just setting there, and the lure will disappear in a small gentle swirl, and you line will start moving out. If nothing grabs the bait after a minute or so, give it a twitch and start reeling it in slowly, so it makes a wake on top of the water. Fish the slow-sinking one like a crankbait, but not in the wood. The only thing I will say about the terminal tackle is get the hook hone..... You'll need it. Hope this helps some. Good Luck Quote
pudmunk Posted July 7, 2010 Author Posted July 7, 2010 awesome stuff guys Thinking of starting out with 2 rod and reels (one spinner and one baitcast). If I were to set a limit of 2-$300 for the two combos ,do you guys think it's attainable? I don't need the best, but I also am a man that prefers some quality. I come from the school of "you get what you pay for" However under the circumstances like I said I don't need a 3-$500 +rod/ reel. My friend was telling me it's always good to get last years model when the newer ones come out because they discount them . Any link suggestions would that some have trust in (brand or models would be great) BTW I have smaller fat hands so I like a grip and reel a little on the small size Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted July 7, 2010 Super User Posted July 7, 2010 I suggest buying one rig this year and saving for another next year. Be patient and keep an eye on our Flea Market. For baitcasting, St. Croix Avid AVC68MXF ($180 MSRP ~ $125); Shimano Curado 200E7 (~$135). Spinning tackle: Avid AVS70MF ($125); Shimano Stradic 2500 FI ($120) or if you can save a little more money,the Stradic 2500 CI4. 8-) Quote
Nebraska Bassin Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 I suggest buying one rig this year and saving for another next year. Be patient and keep an eye on our Flea Market. For baitcasting, St. Croix Avid AVC68MXF ($180 MSRP ~ $125); Shimano Curado 200E7 (~$135). Spinning tackle: Avid AVS70MF ($125); Shimano Stradic 2500 FI ($120) or if you can save a little more money,the Stradic 2500 CI4. 8-) Sounds like a great way to go to me. As for tackle, my first $100 would probably be spent on 1 pack of 1/8 oz. and 1 pack of 1/4 oz. tungsten bullet weights, a couple packs apiece of 3/0 and 4/0 Gamakatsu G-Lock hooks, and from then on I'd go crazy on plastics. I'd probably get a few packs of Netbait Paca Craws, Reaction Innovations Sweet Beavers, and Senkos, and if there's any left over, I'd probably spend it on some Zoom lizards. Most soft plastics are cheap, so you could get a pretty good variety of colors. If I had to spend an entire day fishing with only one type of bait, I'd always take soft plastics. Next time I had some money available to satisfy the bait monkey, I'd look into a few different types of spinnerbaits and some Lucky Craft Pointers. Quote
Pikesnogle Posted July 7, 2010 Posted July 7, 2010 Bait - Senkos Senkos Senkos! Rod/Reel set ups I think you have a great train of thought going there with one of each (baitcaster/spinning). If you can swing it I suggest the Shimano Curado, I have this reel and it is.. special to say the least. If not BPS has pretty decent combos sets so I've heard. I cannot say this from personal experience though. Regardless, good luck. And don't forget it ain't easy... Quote
Red Posted July 8, 2010 Posted July 8, 2010 Like someone mentioned, watch the flea market here. Can find some great deals for sure!! Quote
pudmunk Posted July 8, 2010 Author Posted July 8, 2010 I think I will just start with a spinning reel as one stated, better off getting something that will last and be durable. My fishing buddy usually brings 8 or so rods. Four set for me with plastics,and spinners mostly, all on Spinning reels, he uses bait casters mainly for himself. He's a great fisher and knows his stuff. The only problem all the talk about rods/reels/and bait/technique is toooooo much to take in, all in 5 or so fishing trips especially as he's talking alot. Like I know all about I don't understand a jig is! First time really fishing was this year (other than once as a youngin and never caught a thing) I've always been into sports, not golf or fishing. I never thought much of either , I recently looked in the mirror and said "son, you need to get out and get yourself a hobby" Ya can't sit around the house and go to work for a living, it gets boring. Once I went out, before I even threw my first cast it was love at first sight, and it's just escalated from there. Why did I choose to get into this as I get married and have 2 year old : Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted July 9, 2010 Super User Posted July 9, 2010 This might help: http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1141187546 This is something to consider as you build your collection over time: Technique specific rods are for "enthusiasts". Almost all your fishing can be done with just one rod. Beyond that, you only "need" three rods: Spinning: 6 1/2' or 7', M or MH, Fast Action (soft plastics and light lures) Baitcasting: MH or H, Fast Action (jigs, spinnerbaits, buzzbaits and all single hooks) Baitcasting: MH, Moderate Action (all treble hook lures) Quote
evrgladesbasser Posted July 10, 2010 Posted July 10, 2010 When I started fishing a long time ago I only had a spinner. It stayed that way for many years. Asking a question like that on a board like this will leave you overwhelmed by different answers. Get yourself a nice spinner, buy some good baits, and go from there. You can add to your collection along the way. But in my opinion if I could only have one pole to fish with it's gonna be a good quality spinner on a medium or medium light rod every time. Despite what your buddy tells you and what you may read, you can fish any type of lure on this set-up. Quote
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