Smallmouth Hunter Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 I am kinda new to fly fishing and recently my tippet broke so I bought a new one. The reel I bought came with line already set up on it so I didn't have to tie any knots but now I do. I looked up how to do the know and now Im confused... All I can find is knots for leader to tippet, but I don't have a leader and never did. Is there any knots for fly line to tippet? Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted July 2, 2013 Super User Posted July 2, 2013 Leader and tippet are kind of one in teh same really. The difference is tippet comes in one weight throughout and leaders are usually tapered ad as you start to lose the end due to break offs and reties you add tippet. WIth all that being said, what is on the end of your fly line now and does your leader have a loop on it? Quote
Kevin22 Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 Sounds like you do not have a leader and are just running tippet from the fly line to the fly. That works with some big bass flies but some of the lighter flies will not turn over well with a straight tippet leader. My suggestion is to use a nail knot and tie on about 3' of 20# mono or fluoro, then 3' of 14# mono or fluoro, then 3' of 10# mono or fluoro, and then your tippet to that. For mono to mono and fluoro to fluoro use a blood knot. Quote
jhoffman Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 I tie all my leaders from butt section to tippet and they all use nail to nail connections. Get yourself a tie fast knot tying tool Quote
shallow thinker Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 I never learned the nail knot. My leaders are tied with uni-knot to uni-knot connections. As mentioned earlier, you attach something like 3 feet of 20 lb mono to your fly line (using a loop to loop connection), then step down to 3 feet of 12-16 lb mono with the uni to unit. Tapered leaders can be as simple as this or you can carry on with more connections for very specialized applications. Most of my saltwater flyfishing is with 9' leaders but I sometimes keep it simple with a 6' leader for bass fishing. I have gone to a 12 foot leader for very spooky fish... but that can be harder to cast. Tying your own leaders is pretty simple once you try. No reason to buy pre-made store leaders when you probably have the necessary mono spools at home. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted July 2, 2013 Super User Posted July 2, 2013 Nail knot to the fly line works well. Assuming your fly line does not have a welded loop i usually either get one of those chinese finger cuff loops and use that for anything 5wt and under over that i am using a nail knot or loop to loop connection since most if not all modern fly lines have welded loops. I will also say to just get a good tapered leader and not mess with all the tying sections together. Yes it works and is probably cheaper but the hassle isn't worth it to me. I buy a tapered leader and add tippet as needed and a leader usually lasts me close to a whole season. For my bass set ups i just go straight leaders. Tie a perfection loop in either 8lb or 6lb flouro/mono and be done with it. Quote
Bass Junkie Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 For fly line to leader I prefer a loop to loop connection. Simple, strong, and very time efficient. Quote
gr8outdoorz Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 As stated before, if the fly line does not have a loop the use a nail knot. Since most tapered leaders now come with a loop for easy/fast changes, you can make a loop to loop connection for future leaders so you don't have to keep cutting your fly line to add a new leader. Take either the butt section of a tapered leader (about 12") or a 12" section of 40lb mono. Tie one end to the fly line with a nail knot. Then tie a "perfection loop" into the other end of the mono. You now have a loop for connecting a leader with a loop-to-loop connection. Enjoy the new addiction!! 1 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted July 3, 2013 Super User Posted July 3, 2013 I know it has been mentioned but be sure to use the perfection loop as it will keep the leader straight and not kicked over to one side as is common with other styles of knots. Quote
moguy1973 Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 I have always used leaders no matter what kind of fly fishing I'm doing. When attaching leaders to my fly line I've used the braided fly line loops for years and never had a problem. http://www.basspro.com/Braided-Fly-Fishing-Line-to-Leader-Loop-Connectors/product/75087/ Quote
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