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Are you looking at the actual 7ft10/11 flipping rods or smaller?

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Had 2 Abu's; one had a epoxy bubble in the guide which snapped my line several times mid cast before I noticed/exchanged it, second shattered while pulling a hog out of the weeds. Don't get me wrong, Abu's have an amazing feel and are stupid light...but seems to come at a cost  (lost lures, early ends to days on the water, lost fish etc.). Went through 6 rod brands last season ($120 range); never tried a mojo but my Shimano is worry free and I don't have to baby it. 

 

Oh yeah, that retractable handle stopped working on the first Abu as well. Didn't find it practical anyway, more of a gimic.

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Personally wouldn't want either. I have several Mojos but once you get to a rod that size they weigh a ton. I'd probably check out a BPS Carbonlite or Extreme in that price range. 

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Powell's are 109 at the fish ranger, they make a flipping series. Slightly more with shipping but quality.

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While I have no experience with the Mojo my Veritas is extremely sensitive.  I have had no issues with my rods and I check it regularly.  I have caught 15-20 fish on it so far and for my Texas rigs it has been nothing but perfect.  

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I had the 7'11" Mojo flipping stick.................it was a beast. Long, heavy, power full, heavy, and did I mention heavy? Sensitivity was fine. I just got rid of it and replaced it with a Shimano Clarus 7'11" flipping rod...............which is no better in the weight/balance department, but at least it's telescopic so it fit's in my rod locker with ease, the Mojo took a little bit of careful planning, gentile shoving, and a few swear words to get in. The other day I was playing with Vendetta and Veritas 7'6" rod sat Dicks and Gander Mtn. The 7'6" MH, and 7'11" H Veritas is WAY lighter than any thing St Croix or Shimano makes in the price range............in fact it's lighter than the 7'6" St Croix Legend Tournament I had, and so are the 7'6 MH and H Vendetta's. I am not wild about getting another 7'11" that I have to cram in my rod locker, but a 7'6" fits fine, so I might grab the 7'6" H Vendetta, and pass the Clarus along to some one with more upper body strength LOL.

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I haven't tried either rod myself but my brother had a Veritas that he snapped in half while fishing. I have had some of the Shimano rods like the Clarus and Compre and returned them after spending some time on the water with them and comparing them to the Dick's Fied & Stream Tec Spec series of rods. The Tec Spec Elite 7'3" MHF 3/16-3/4 oz rod and the 7'6" HXF 1/2-1.5oz rod would be a better choice in my opinion.

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I love my Veritas and have had absolutely no issues. I have lifted fish up to nearly 6lbs out of the water with it no problem. It's super sensitive and light I have mine paired up with a quantum smoke and I can cast it all day with no problems. It is currently my only quality rod (fixing that soon) and I fish 2-3 times a week for 4+ hours every outing normally around 7-8 hours a day. I have owned it since early April of this year.  I have no experience obviously with the other rod just thought I'd give you my experience in hopes it will be helpful somehow.

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I don't own the models your looking at but own both of the brands, personally I think the Veritas is a lighter, more sensitive rod than the mojo, however I have more confidence in my St Croix concerning quality and longevity.  My first Vertias I received I did a complete look over because of stories like the expoxy cracking near the guides, weak points on the rods and general quality issues and I did find the epoxy was cracked in two places, sent it back and received a new one no questions asked and it looks good and is performing well (Almost two years old)one of my favorite setups to fish, have it paired with a Shimano Stradic.  I agree the mojo is heavier, personally I would also take a look at some shimano rods in the same price range have been hearing nothing but good about them and I will be taking my own advice because I am also in need of a flipping stick lol..

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I don't own the models your looking at but own both of the brands, personally I think the Veritas is a lighter, more sensitive rod than the mojo, however I have more confidence in my St Croix concerning quality and longevity.  My first Vertias I received I did a complete look over because of stories like the expoxy cracking near the guides, weak points on the rods and general quality issues and I did find the epoxy was cracked in two places, sent it back and received a new one no questions asked and it looks good and is performing well (Almost two years old)one of my favorite setups to fish, have it paired with a Shimano Stradic.  I agree the mojo is heavier, personally I would also take a look at some shimano rods in the same price range have been hearing nothing but good about them and I will be taking my own advice because I am also in need of a flipping stick lol..

To be honest, in that price range for flipping/pitching I'd stay with the Veritas.  My Compre 7'6" H/F is heavy and would wear you down if you spent hours flipping and pitching. It's a fine frogging rod though. If I were you, I'd save up for a previous Gen Cumara 7'4" or 7'7" if you want to go Shimano.  You can buy one for around 160, of course that is if you can find one!  I passed on one though and went with a Fenwick Aetos 7'6" H/XF which was 139.99 and was light (comparable to Cumara, sensitivity it's good not "Cumara" sensitive, but very close )...balanced well with my reel.  I was sold, not to mention I liked the looks of them. 

 

PS - Or maybe look at a Crucial..I haven't tested one, but my Crucial MH/XF 7'2" Jig and Worm series is lighter, but the issue is it would cost around 160 range too, hence why I said Previous Gen Cumara.  Same price range.

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