Super User Scott F Posted June 30, 2013 Super User Posted June 30, 2013 The buoyancy and drag that braid has makes it a terrible line for any cranking techniques. Not to mention that treble hooks will tear it apart. For jerkbait use fluorocarbon or mono are much better choices and give the bait a much more natural action. Also, if it is windy braid is severely effected. It bellies heavily for any light weight application due to its hydrophobic/buoyancy tendencies. During bottom contact applications, there are many times where the line is slack, braid does not transmit vibrations during these times. Other lines offer a more consistent feel throughout the entire process. I disagree with your opinion. Braid is not so buoyant that it has any effect on how deep lure will dive. I use suspending jerkbaits a lot on braid and if the line was so buoyant, it would not allow the baits to suspend which is not the case. On the contrary, the thinner line has considerably less resistance and allows lure to run MUCH deeper than mono or fluoro of comparable line strength. The larger the diameter a line is, the more resistance it has in the water shallower a lure will run. Also tests done several years ago show that the stretch of mono makes strike detection difficult especially on lines of less than 20 pound test. I'm like one of the other posters and find that there is no situation where I prefer mono or fluoro to braid. 1 Quote
LApanic Posted June 30, 2013 Author Posted June 30, 2013 Wow, guys/gals the responses have been kinda a-typical from what I expected, and see why one poster called the forums heavy "braid/PowerPro" users. I am one myself so I guess that makes me typical, lol The reason I posted the topic was to really see how I was using it compared to others using the same techniques, some different and experiences. Here is my standard issue setup for almost 90% of my fishing, club tournaments, ponds, etc. Quantum 7:1 on a Veritas 7'6" MH - 50# PowerPro (Mossy Green) Flipping/Pitching C-Rig (fluorocarbon leader) Buzz Frog Buzz Bait Swim Jigs A-Rig (very light) BPS ProQ 7:1 on Shimano Sojurn 7' M - 50# PowerPro (Green of course) Walking the dog's Hollow Body frogs 90% of T-Rigging (normally NO leader unless the water's clear) Soft Jerkbaits (14# Sunline FC 24" leader) etc 3rd Tournament Setup same as last ^^^ Plueger Echelon 6:3:1 on Fenwick 7' MH - 15# Seaguar InvisX Crank baits (larger) Spinnerbaits Some Jigs (finesse) etc Quantum Tour Edition PT on Allstar 6'6" Medium - 14# P-Line Copolymer Smaller Plugs (2-4ft) Square Bills etc. Plueger President Med Size spinning - Quantum 7' M - 20# PowerPro (green again) 10% of T-Rigging (ponds, deeper water, finesse) Secondary Soft Jerkbait/Jerkbait Rod **Most all the time have 18"-24" 12# FC leader for applications above All in all, i'm catching fish and am confident in what I use. I do fish a lot of grass lakes/ponds so i'm comfortable and confident in these setups and that plays a big role! Quote
LApanic Posted June 30, 2013 Author Posted June 30, 2013 I would have NEVER landed that 6# in my Avatar if it wasn't for Braid!.... throwing a CottonCordell Crazy Shad Prop bait 1 Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted June 30, 2013 Super User Posted June 30, 2013 The buoyancy and drag that braid has makes it a terrible line for any cranking techniques. Not to mention that treble hooks will tear it apart. For jerkbait use fluorocarbon or mono are much better choices and give the bait a much more natural action. Also, if it is windy braid is severely effected. It bellies heavily for any light weight application due to its hydrophobic/buoyancy tendencies. During bottom contact applications, there are many times where the line is slack, braid does not transmit vibrations during these times. Other lines offer a more consistent feel throughout the entire process. Braid, however, does due fairly well for punching grass. Anyways, if the bait sinks I want a line that sinks. A premium fluoro works very well for a technique where you want a line to sink. For floating applications minus frogging I feel a quality mono like suffix siege or elite works well. This is a braid/powerpro heavy forum so I am sure most will disagree. Having used braid extensively, it does not even compare in performance to Tatsu or even a mid-priced FC sniper for that matter. But like you said, agree to disagree. i agree with this as well. Quote
Thatbasstardbrent Posted June 30, 2013 Posted June 30, 2013 Well the worst time to use braid is in clear water because it is high visibility. the best time is on cloudy days that have stained or worse water. Also try not to use it on aluminum guides as it may make a groove in the aluminum from all the friction. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted June 30, 2013 Super User Posted June 30, 2013 there are no bad times to use braid. Quote
fishking247 Posted June 30, 2013 Posted June 30, 2013 jerkbaits. i have tried braid for every other technique in the past and it is manageable but i could not stand braid with jerkbaits. i am a big mono guy the only time i use braid is real heavy cover. i hate flouro Quote
wnybassman Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 My deep cranking success rate dramatically increased once I started using straight braid. I've switched over to braid for all topwater as well, which is mainly Super Spooks and Zell Pops (along with frogs). I am not buying into the braid not being good for treble hooked baits thing. I am still all flouro for all my flipping and pitching though, but that is just what is most comfortable for me. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted July 1, 2013 Super User Posted July 1, 2013 I'm with this guy. I'm not. 1 Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted July 1, 2013 Super User Posted July 1, 2013 Most of the replies are focused around bass fishing, casting and retrieving in some fashion being the predominate technique. I use braid almost 100% of the time but in my experience 3 times comes to mind when it may not be my best option. 1.Trolling with lures that spin quite a bit, the line twist created is terrible, I've wasted entire spools in very short order, ball bearing swivels won't eliminate it. 2.Casting and retrieving lures than spin, certain spoons and inline spinners, not near as bad as trolling but in time the line will twist, I'm still a gluton for punishment, and at times I do use mono. 3.Drift fishing on a party boat, many species will encircle the boat and tangle up many lines, the mates just cut line, many captains do not allow braid on these boats. Also when drifting with bait the turns over in the water and again creating line twist. I do use braid on private boats for drift fishing, I have to change it more often. For my freshwater and inshore saltwater fishing I haven't used anything that beats braid. Quote
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