Cant Get Even The Big Cranks Deep Enough

[jhoffman]

Im marking fish in 25+ ft of water and cannot for the life of me get a crank down there. Ive not yet gone to something as large as a 10xd.

 

Ive tried about every other "deep" bait on the market from hot lips express(pre rapala), dd22 to 6xds.

 

I know I can throw other stuff to get down there but I have been smashn fish on cranks when I can get it to them.

 

Short of waiting out a countdown or something of that nature is there a good crank that will sink that can get me down there?

 

I really dont wanna try the carolina rig crankbait but I am about to try anything.

 

Im throwing these cranks on 14lb mono and would go to 10 but I am affraid of it dign in my spool and Im not fortunate enough to own a 51 or a pixy but I might just break down and buy one before next season if thats the only solution.

[webertime]

May I suggest a Biffle-head with a swimbait or creature bait? Gets deep, puts out "thump", retrieve it right and it'll bang around and deflect like a crank. Works for me.

[hooah212002]

What about a lipless?

[shimmy]

can always do the scrounger. I agree. I hate not being able to get cranks deep. Can always do the heavy sinker a few feet up and chuck it out, let it sink and crank it in. I have no idea how much that affects it though. I wish there was an easier solution. You can always make a long cast and motor down a ways and then crank it in when it is a few hundred feet out.

[Avalonjohn44]

Get a big Rapala Countdown. Will take a while to get to 25 feet, but with some floro and some patience, you'll be crushing them.

[flippin and pitchin]

Hollow body swimbait with a heavy keel weighted hook or 1/2 ounce jig head.

[Jrob78]

I would try strolling/long lining to get your bait deeper. Short of the 10xd or waiting for a countdown to sink, there aren't any other option at that depth, crankbait wise.

[Bluebasser86]

Have you tried a flutter spoon? If you think they're aggressive enough to hit a big crank I'd think you could get them to hit a flutter spoon, or maybe a C-rig if they're holding close to the bottom. 

[Dwight Hottle]

Spool up some 10lb braid and try again. Breaking strength is around 17lbs.

[Scott F]

Spool up some 10lb braid and try again. Breaking strength is around 17lbs.

 

X2. I don't know how deep your lures are getting with the mono, but the braid will get them quite a bit deeper.

[iabass8]

i agree with dwight. unless you are throwing the 10xd you will get more depth running the 10lb braid or even a 10lb fluoro and won't really risk the chance of snapping off the bait during the cast as long as you tie correctly. 

[gotarheelz14]

I would personally go with 10lb fluoro. I throw 10lb fluoro all the time on my baitcaster, (3rd and 2nd generation revos) with no problem. I don't really buy into the whole "fluorocarbon sinks" type thing too much but it certainly can't hurt. The smaller line diameter is definitely a must. 

[bigbill]

The bass strike upwards. So how far do we need to be above them? I bought every large crank bait even up to pike and muskie size for bigger bass. I also got into the larger inline spinner too. They should get down there too. Joe's Flies offers some really nice inline spinner in a water wolf so it's called its inbetween a freshwater and salt water size. I know you said cranks but??

[PondBoss]

I tend to agree with going the braid route,  the line diameter at that strength is like sewing thread.  If that doesn't get it all the way to where you need it add in long lining and you should hit the mark easily.

[Basseditor]

By long lining, I've been getting 6XDs close to 25 feet. For sure 22-23 feet. But if I let out a lot of line, I can hit 25 feet plus. That's with 15# Invisx flouro and 7'11" rod pushed down in to the water. I don't do kneeling and reeling though. That might gain you another foot or two.

[jhoffman]

Have you tried a flutter spoon? If you think they're aggressive enough to hit a big crank I'd think you could get them to hit a flutter spoon, or maybe a C-rig if they're holding close to the bottom. 

 

I just had some smaller flutters show up because of this. I was throwing a 5" SK sexy spoon but these fish in this lake wont hit it.

[jhoffman]

My problem with 10 isnt the break strength, ive landed bigger fish on much smaller line. I just took 20lb braid off this setup because it was digging into the spool everytime I set the hook, with mono backing and cranked on tight ten would be even worse id imagine unless theres another secret I am missing.

[Bass Junkie]

I throw 10lb mono on baitcasting equipment all the time, and have none of the issues you are experiencing. I think your problems come more from the braided line than anything else. I have 65lb do the same thing while frogging. I'd switch to the mono. Just my $.02

[MarkH024]

Spool up some 10lb braid and try again. Breaking strength is around 17lbs.

This...even 15-20lb braid will get you down there.

[MarkH024]

My problem with 10 isnt the break strength, ive landed bigger fish on much smaller line. I just took 20lb braid off this setup because it was digging into the spool everytime I set the hook, with mono backing and cranked on tight ten would be even worse id imagine unless theres another secret I am missing.

Loosen your drag up and use your thumb more. I throw 20lb braid on a baitcaster all the time and as long as you back of the drag you should be ok. 

[senko_77]

My problem with 10 isnt the break strength, ive landed bigger fish on much smaller line. I just took 20lb braid off this setup because it was digging into the spool everytime I set the hook, with mono backing and cranked on tight ten would be even worse id imagine unless theres another secret I am missing.

 

If this is the only reason why you aren't using the 10lb. braid, then I urge you to reconsider.  The 10lb. braid WILL get that bait to where you want it.  Who cares if you need to pull out the line and get it re-set after each fish.  The fact that your catching them should make it worth it.  

[SPEEDBEAD.]

Have you considered "strolling" the crank?

 

If you have your spot marked well enough in your head, with a little practice 25ft should not be a problem using that technique.

[PABASS]

You can try changing out for larger hooks, add heavier split rings, add lead strips.  While I have never tried this I have seen people add a split shot few inches up the line to get the bait down low..

[Primus]

Get a big Rapala Countdown. Will take a while to get to 25 feet, but with some floro and some patience, you'll be crushing them.

 

Cool idea, I might have to try that.

[Comfortably Numb]

_{I fish those dephs+ in the winter and use a 5/8-3/4 oz blade bait. Let it hit bottom and snap it up and let flutter down on semi slack line.}