motodmast Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 Hey Guys in the market for a new pitching rod, ive owned a 7'6 in the past, but i wanna stick around 7'2-7'3 main use for 3/8- 3/4 oz jigs around wood, docks, laydowns, that type of stuff,not too heavy of cover... looking at the 13 *** black 7'3 Heavy or the Shimano Cumara 7'2 MH-XF which rod would you pick for flipping docks, reeds, laydowns, and every once in a while, light pads & mats. or any other rod thats strong yet sensitive around 7'3 length and around $250, shoot me ideas thanks Quote
jtesch Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 The Cumara's light weight is a nice plus, keeps you fresh all day Quote
ec1 Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 Of the 2, I think I'd take the Cumara - just because I've held it vs the ***. Depends if you like recoil guides too. For anyone that complains that they're too noisy though.... what's there not to like? the sound of the guides screaming is the sound of catching fish. lol. Another option you have at the price point is the Dobyns Champion 734. I've owned the 733 (Which would be light for what you need it to do) but it was arguably the most accurate pitching rod I've owned to date. I do believe sensitivity is below the cumara though. Quote
motodmast Posted June 25, 2013 Author Posted June 25, 2013 Of the 2, I think I'd take the Cumara - just because I've held it vs the ***. Depends if you like recoil guides too. For anyone that complains that they're too noisy though.... what's there not to like? the sound of the guides screaming is the sound of catching fish. lol. Another option you have at the price point is the Dobyns Champion 734. I've owned the 733 (Which would be light for what you need it to do) but it was arguably the most accurate pitching rod I've owned to date. I do believe sensitivity is below the cumara though. Have you fished the dobyns champ extremes? my good friend is trying to get me to get a 744, can you comare that to the 7'2 MH-XF cumara, cause i can get a 744 for about 275 which is in my price range, Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted June 25, 2013 Super User Posted June 25, 2013 Can't comment on the *** but have the cumara (previous Gen) and the champion extreme. Both are great rods for jigs in this weight class. For shear power the 7'2 medium heavy cumara is pretty stout. The 744 dx is powerful but with a bit more tip which will be handy for flipping and pitching. The cumara will be a slightly lighter overall finished rod but the extreme will balance better and you wont hardly notice the weight difference. Would be hard to beat the shimano over the counter warranty but dobyns does the $60 no hassle replacement plan. I like both rods but feel the versatility of the extreme would be nice, however the price and warranty of the cumara would be hard to overlook. I know you like the *** rods but perhaps step outside that brand for a taste of something else for comparison sake. If you don't like the rod you can recoup a good amount of the cost since the market for those rods is good. Do a Google search for both rods and you will find plenty of good info. Or you could call Gary at dobyns rods or the folks at shimano to help you pick the exact rod you need. Both places have great customer service. Quote
ec1 Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 Own a 795 and held a 745. I think Dobyns has one of the best tip actions for pitching, and after hearing lots of praise for the 744, I wouldn't mind getting it. Next question is what reel is going with it? Quote
Super User lmbfisherman Posted June 25, 2013 Super User Posted June 25, 2013 This is how I'd rate it.. Dobyns Champion Extreme > Shimano Cumara > Dobyns Champion > *** Quote
Lucky Craft Man Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 I went through the same process as you did. I have a 7'6" rod, but I wanted something a little shorter that could handle those mid-weight jigs. I know this isn't on your list, but I ended up with a G Loomis GLX BCFR863. This thing is just awesome for pitching lures in the 3/8 oz. to 3/4oz. rnage. Unfortunately, G Loomis stopped making this model, but if you look around you can find one in your price range. Quote
motodmast Posted June 25, 2013 Author Posted June 25, 2013 thanks for the input guys, im gonna go down to the local tackle shop and compare the dobyns and cumara, see how they feel in hands. i love the 13 *** rod, only cause i have one, but i want ot try some other higher end rods like the dobyns and cumara because ive heard there excellent rods Quote
down4ttown Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 Dobyn's DX no question. They are pretty much the elite when it comes to rods. Not saying they are the best as everyone has their opinions, but they are always in the conversation. Quote
motodmast Posted June 25, 2013 Author Posted June 25, 2013 Can anyone say where the dobyns sensitivity is compared to a GLX or NRX? i guessing on par or maybe better than then the GLX? Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted June 25, 2013 Super User Posted June 25, 2013 I would say it is close to the GlX line. Probably not more but not a whole less sensitive, but they also are about $100 less. The NRX is above the champion extreme series in a more noticeable way but about $200 more. Dobyns will be releasing a new rod line called the Zeta I believe which will compete against the NRX and truly elite level rods with a price tag close to $500. After handling the rods, if you decide dobyns is best I would call Gary and have him select the perfect rod. He generally answers the phones there and will steer you in the right direction. Quote
motodmast Posted June 25, 2013 Author Posted June 25, 2013 think ive decided on the Dobyns DX745, sound like a good choice, any of you guys that fish it? Quote
down4ttown Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 I would say it is close to the GlX line. Probably not more but not a whole less sensitive, but they also are about $100 less. The NRX is above the champion extreme series in a more noticeable way but about $200 more. Dobyns will be releasing a new rod line called the Zeta I believe which will compete against the NRX and truly elite level rods with a price tag close to $500. After handling the rods, if you decide dobyns is best I would call Gary and have him select the perfect rod. He generally answers the phones there and will steer you in the right direction. I have heard promise of the Zeta for years, any idea when it will be released? Quote
flippin and pitchin Posted June 25, 2013 Posted June 25, 2013 think ive decided on the Dobyns DX745, sound like a good choice, any of you guys that fish it? I was just waiting. That was my first DX series model. When I read what you want a rod to do, that was popped up in my mind. Where you at Motodmast ? I'm in Longview. Doug Quote
motodmast Posted June 25, 2013 Author Posted June 25, 2013 I was just waiting. That was my first DX series model. When I read what you want a rod to do, that was popped up in my mind. Where you at Motodmast ? I'm in Longview. Doug yeah, i think im gonna be happy. only problem is ill probably want another one lol and im in Enumclaw. i fish sawyer and tapps alot Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted June 26, 2013 Super User Posted June 26, 2013 I have heard promise of the Zeta for years, any idea when it will be released? Unfortunately I haven't heard a release date, just rumblings... guessing perhaps at I-Cast or shortly after. When companies launch pinnacle rod lines a good amount testing and re-evaluation goes into the process to avoid putting out products with flaws in the process. When guys are shelling out this kind of coin anything less than darn near perfect won't cut it. I too, am anxiously awaiting the arrival of these rods! Quote
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