St. Croix Legend Extreme Question

[JCiurej34]

I am looking for a new rod for light texas rigs and finesse jigs and I am looking at the 7'1" MH XF Legend Extreme. I am planning on pairing it with a Lews Tournament Pro Speed Spool reel. I had a Legend Tournament Bass series rod in this length and action so I know for sure that this is the length and action I want, I just want to be sure that it would be worth the investment. Any input would be great. Thanks.

[iabass8]

yes it is well worth the investment. the xtreme scV blanks just feel alive in your hands. you won't be disappointed. 

[Siebert Outdoors]

I have that exact rod.  I like these rods better then the Loomis BCR GLX rods.  I'm up to 2 Xtremes.  Both are awesome rods.

[SPEEDBEAD.]

I have LTBs for throwing my regular bass gear and I LOVE them.

 

I can only imagine that the Extremes would be downright ridiculous.

[DaveT63]

In my opinion, they are worth the money.  I think the Xtremes are considerably better rods all around than the LTBs.  Lighter and much more sensitive.  I don't think there is any way you will regret spending the extra cash.

[Capt.Bob]

I got trashed for telling how I FEEL ABOUT THEM, they are the finest rods on the planet, Legend Elite if you want full cork handle, I had my extreme changed to full cork, and it is every bit as sensitive as it was before, and I have fished most premiums out there. One word,,,,,be prepared, if you buy one expect to want more. I hear a few argue that,,,,,,,,but the ones I am aware of that do,,,, have never fished with one,,, let alone owned one,,,, and they called me subjective?????????????

[Chris at Tech]

How light are you looking to throw?

I've never fished an Extreme but imagine you should be pleased. My only word of caution would be around M vs MH. If you're keeping the baits light, M might be worth checking out

[JCiurej34]

How light are you looking to throw?

I've never fished an Extreme but imagine you should be pleased. My only word of caution would be around M vs MH. If you're keeping the baits light, M might be worth checking out

 

I will not fish any lighter than 3/16 oz on this rod. 

[Virtuoso]

I got trashed for telling how I FEEL ABOUT THEM, they are the finest rods on the planet, Legend Elite if you want full cork handle, I had my extreme changed to full cork, and it is every bit as sensitive as it was before, and I have fished most premiums out there. One word,,,,,be prepared, if you buy one expect to want more. I hear a few argue that,,,,,,,,but the ones I am aware of that do have never fished with one let alone owned one, and they called me subjective?????????????

 

How you FEEL is subjective. Perhaps you might want to touch up your vocabulary. Anwyways, the legend extremes I own all work well. I do not like the newer model. Make sure you feel some before using. Out of the 8 I have owned, 4 were tip heavy. I had to send back to replace with something else. I really enjoy the MLXF versions. 

[Capt.Bob]

How you FEEL is subjective. Perhaps you might want to touch up your vocabulary. Anwyways, the legend extremes I own all work well. I do not like the newer model. Make sure you feel some before using. Out of the 8 I have owned, 4 were tip heavy. I had to send back to replace with something else. I really enjoy the MLXF versions. 

That would have cost 4 times more than having them custom Balanced by a professional rod builder, this is done internally and never seen or changes, cost me $7.00 bucks and they are then perfect. Beats settling for something you didn't want in the beginning and paying 20 bucks or more just to return it!!! Been there, don't do that!! I have owned rods from almost every maker out there, and the ones I haven't I have used except 2 that I can think of, makes it real easy for me to determine the difference between subjective and convinced!!! each has their own likes and want's,,,,,and most are determined by cost!!! By the way I didn't come here for grammar lessons, as it is pretty obvious from your insults you understood!!   I'm just here to talk fich'n!!

 

Now maybe you would like to respond to the OP's post, or are you just here to insul others, we would love to hear your comments on the original question!!!!

 

The new ones I don't own, and will say when you buy the lightest rods built they are touchier about the geaqr you balance them with!!! Or the smart thing is spend $7.00 and have it any way you want it!!!  

I love custom!!

[Virtuoso]

That would have cost 4 times more than having them custom Balanced by a professional rod builder, this is done internally and never seen or changes, cost me $7.00 bucks and they are then perfect. Beats settling for something you didn't want in the beginning and paying 20 bucks or more just to return it!!! Been there, don't do that!! I have owned rods from almost every maker out there, and the ones I haven't I have used except 2 that I can think of, makes it real easy for me to determine the difference between subjective and convinced!!! each has their own likes and want's,,,,,and most are determined by cost!!! By the way I didn't come here for grammar lessons, as it is pretty obvious from your insults you understood!!   I'm just here to talk fich'n!!

 

If you are doing the determining, then your determinations are subjective. Unless you have some scientific process of comparison. Still, subjectivity would still be within the testing. Perhaps with more emoticons, and exclamation points you would understand? Its relative to fishing, because you are trying to push on someone that your thoughts on fishing equipment are not subjective. That is misleading. We all are on this site to share subjective opinions and experiences. No one is above this burden, claiming otherwise would expose a character flaw in believing one is always right. 

 

Anyways, I don't privy spending $300+ dollars on a rod that I have to balance myself. The rod should balance from the get go. Any weight added to a rod decreases its efficiency to a degree. My most sensitive setups are the lightest. These are my subjective thoughts Bob. The legend extremes that were built well balanced were worth the money in my opinion OP. I have found that these rods can differ in balance year-to-year. This years model of the 7'1'' MHXF Extreme I have yet to try out. My 2011 model seemed to balance fine and is worth the money IMHO. I would still suggest getting your hands on one before buying.

[Capt.Bob]

Anyways, I don't privy spending $300+ dollars on a rod that I have to balance myself. The rod should balance from the get go. Any weight added to a rod decreases its efficiency to a degree. My most sensitive setups are the lightest. These are my subjective thoughts Bob. The legend extremes that were built well balanced were worth the money in my opinion OP. I have found that these rods can differ in balance year-to-year. This years model of the 7'1'' MHXF Extreme I have yet to try out. My 2011 model seemed to balance fine and is worth the money IMHO. I would still suggest getting your hands on one before buying.

What I was trying to relay when you started getting insulting, is maybe you have not been there and done that,,,,I have. I have an excellent rod builder that has been doing this for over 30 years and also worked in the industry for that long, I met him through another guide I worked with in the same marina I ran out of. He has gained much respect from many Captains and Guides in our marina. The point is I tried to tell you before after and still this rod is every bit as sensitive as the day it was new. I agree these brass shimmed add on balance kits balance,,,,but they don't make a rod MORE sensitive, and quite the contrary as a rule, any properly balanced rod will be more sensitive, 2 or 3 tenths of an once when done correctly is better, undetectable and with no loss of sensitivity. But if you would like to spend 20 bucks to send it back and have a new rod sent, you will have to continue to be subjective, and wonder how it could be so. If you sent a rod back and chose another, you obviously are settling for your second choice, instead of the one you really wanted. I suggest you spend $7.00 have a custom balanced rod and see if i am still subjective,,, I think it will save you some money and time, as it can be done while you wait!!!  

[Virtuoso]

What I was trying to relay when you started getting insulting, is maybe you have not been there and done that,,,,I have. I have an excellent rod builder that has been doing this for over 30 years and also worked in the industry for that long, I met him through another guide I worked with in the same marina I ran out of. He has gained much respect from many Captains and Guides in our marina. The point is I tried to tell you before after and still this rod is every bit as sensitive as the day it was new. I agree these brass shimmed add on balance kits balance,,,,but they don't make a rod MORE sensitive, and quite the contrary as a rule, any properly balanced rod will be more sensitive, 2 or 3 tenths of an once when done correctly is better, undetectable and with no loss of sensitivity. But if you would like to spend 20 bucks to send it back and have a new rod sent, you will have to continue to be subjective, and wonder how it could be so. If you sent a rod back and chose another, you obviously are settling for your second choice, instead of the one you really wanted. I suggest you spend $7.00 have a custom balanced rod and see if i am still subjective,,, I think it will save you some money and time, as it can be done while you wait!!!

 

I have my fair share of custom builds, 6 currently and 3 in process. And actually own and use rods from almost every company and I use them when the time comes.. Each company has their pros and cons and I try to take the best from each company and keep an open mind. The most sensitive rods are built with the lightest equipment. In your hands a few tenths of an ounce might not mean anything, to others it makes a difference. If you haven't noticed there is a trend where rods are getting lighter and stronger. Lighter guides, reel seats, blanks, resins, etc. A well built rod will balance without needing to add weight to the butt. A rod that is inherently out of balance is a rod not built well. 

 

Furthermore, I have had my rods professionally balanced and I have purchased rods that have kits on them to do so. The Z-Bone I own comes to mind in that category. I am not a huge fan of this process. Unfortunately, many of the rods I buy are online where I can not get to feel them first. Throughout doing so, I have added heavier reels, to try and make them balance and also weight on the butt. Although the rod finally balances, it is not optimal. Two identical models of the Legend Extremes just from different years where one was in balance and the other was out made a difference in my hands after having them professionally balanced.

 

Like I said, spending that kind of money on a rod, the rod better be built well and that means a rod that is balanced. Sure, it may not be as perfect as having a rod custom built towards the reel you are going to use, but some of the St. Croix's are out of balance even with a 9oz+ reel on them. Some may enjoy that, I personally would rather have my rod built well in the first place.

[Hi Salenity]

Back to the OP, I bought a 2013 extreme and I already had the same model LTB, the differance was amazing! I had the LTBfor sale before I ever got the extreme wet.

[Virtuoso]

Back to the OP, I bought a 2013 extreme and I already had the same model LTB, the differance was amazing! I had the LTBfor sale before I ever got the extreme wet.

 

Completely Agree, I got rid of all but one of my LTB's. The SCVI blanks are a huge upgrade, and they make for a much lighter and responsive rod. The crispness is night and day between the two as well.

[Capt.Bob]

Anyways, I don't privy spending $300+ dollars on a rod that I have to balance myself. The rod should balance from the get go.

 

 

 

 

Furthermore, I have had my rods professionally balanced and I have purchased rods that have kits on them to do so. Although the rod finally balances, it is not optimal.

 

 

Like I said, spending that kind of money on a rod, the rod better be built well and that means a rod that is balanced.

OK!! I agree, your right, lets move on.

 

Anyway to the OP, I agree with others here I have both and the Extreme is without question a more sensitive rod, and will be an improvement, since I have both I will say that without scientific evidence,  Hi Salenity is right on, the difference is amazing!!