Braided Line Knots

[TWMstr]

I have had a lot of problems when tying knots to swivels. Lately I've been carolina rigging a lot using 30lb braided line with a 15lb fluorocarbon leader. I've lost 3 rigs on 3 different knots tying the braided line to the swivel. What the hell is going on?! 1/2ounce & 3/4ounce weights are not cheap, and I'm tired of losing rigs when tossing it out there.

Strong, Fast, and Reliable Braided Knots to swivels. (HELP)

[MarkH024]

Palomar knot is what I use on all braid to lure/rig.

[Marty]

Same here, Palomar on my 15# Power Pro.

[new2BC4bass]

I use the Uni Knot.  Have straightened out jig hooks with 30# braid.  I'm sure there are dozens of other knots that work as well.

[Jrob78]

I use the Palomar as well. I saw Dean Rojas talking about the knot he uses with braid, he called it a double Palomar. Basically, when you do the overhand knot, you run the line through twice. The bad thing about it is it's really hard to cinch the knot down at the end. Rojas used pliers to pull everything tight.

[SirSnookalot]

It's more in the way of how the knot is tied rather than one knot over another, tie the one that's easiest.  The majority of my fishing is done in saltwater using swivels, pretty much the same line diameters as in freshwater fishing.  I use an improved clinch knot, it works quite well, the only exception is when I'm targeting larger fish I make an extra wrap on the final step of the knot.  If I have a monster on that I know I can't bring in on the tackle I'm using I grab the spool and break off at the swivel, better to lose just a lure than all your line.

[Hogsticker]

_{Improved clinch knot and the palomar work well for me. Thinner more supple braids are easier to tie with a palomar IMO. Thicker lines I use the improved clinch. Never had a problem with both.}

[Dave T.]

Some of this depends on the type of braid. Some braid just seems to slip no matter what the knot. 

 

We use a double improved clinch knot on everything. That's two passes through the hook eye, 6 turns of the line, pass the line back through the two loops by the eye, and then pass the line up through the loop created on the pass back through the two loops. When tied properly, we rarely have a break off at the knot. However, I admit, we are not fishing Carolina Rigs with big sinkers.

[War Eagle 44]

I use Power Pro Super 8 Slick 99% of the time now and I have experienced some knot slippage when frog fishing or flipping really thick grass. I use the Palomar knot and simply melt the tag end of the line with a lighter. This results in a small "bulge" in the tag line that can't slip back through the knot. Problem solved. 

[NWBasslover]

When you rig do you use a glass bead in between your knot and your sinker? It might be a case of the sinker cutting/breaking the knot. Try putting a small glass bead in between your sinker and a Palomar knot, I never have a problem when I rig that way.

 

Tight lines.

Matthew

[TWMstr]

Palomar and uni have both failed me on several occasions on a traditional Crig. Don't know what to do...

[SudburyBasser]

I use an improved clinch knot and have never heard a braid knot slip -- regardless of manufacturer, line weight or whether I was tying direct to a lure or swivel.

 

I have noticed in testing that I have seen some slippage in four or fewer turns around the standing line. Five or more and it's rock solid.

[OhioBassNewcomer]

I use the Palomar and improved clinch and haven't had any knots break on me. I guess improved clinch knots aren't designed for braided line but just moisten the knot and pull the tag end first and then pull the main line then give the main line a good tug to see if it holds and check for slipping. Also while your out fishing check the knots frequently.

[OkeechobeeAngler]

Palomar and uni have both failed me on several occasions on a traditional Crig. Don't know what to do...

Don't take this the wrong way but if your palomar knot is slipping then it isn't being tied properly. Palomar knots tied properly don't slip. I mainly use 20# power pro from freshwater to medium saltwater and never had a Palomar slip.

Take your time tying it, watch some YouTube videos etc. And practise tying it.

Good luck.

[bass1980]

Palomar nots for me on swivels and braids. I use improve clinch not on almost everything but its a pain to try to do improve clinch on a swivel because it keeps spinning. Maybe I'm doing it wrong lol.

[War Eagle 44]

Don't take this the wrong way but if your palomar knot is slipping then it isn't being tied properly. Palomar knots tied properly don't slip. I mainly use 20# power pro from freshwater to medium saltwater and never had a Palomar slip.

Take your time tying it, watch some YouTube videos etc. And practise tying it.

Good luck.

This isn't exactly 100% true, no disrespect meant at all but I never had palomar knots slip while using Power Pro, Performance Braid, or P-Line braid but a palomar will slip with Super 8 Slick. The palomar is the only knot I use with braid and have been doing so many years so I know how to tie one. I've had numerous discussions with mt local tackle store owner about this very subject. He told me he had more than a few customers bring S8S back when it first came out because they were having "break offs". Turns out they weren't breaking the line, their knots were slipping.

 

He's the one who told me about the lighter trick, said he got it from his Shimano rep. He told me the rep said they had experienced it also during testing, the ligther trick always fixed it. It has for me as well. One of the guys that works at the shop was having the same problems with it and stopped using it, said he won't ever use S8S again.

 

Take it for what it's worth, one man's experience. I haven't read to much on the net about people having these issues with S8S so I'm not sure if guys just aren't talking about it or what but I am sure seeing some slip.      

[Bk4]

Berkley braid knot strong and dependable. Check it out on youtube.

[PondBoss]

double SanDiego Jam

[MiamiMike]

I never use a swivel...you can use an Alberto Knot to tie line to line (

).  If you're adding line to a spool use 4 turns...if you're tying on a leader you can use 7.  Always make the loop with the thicker line and you can't go wrong!  Best part about this know is the more you pull on it the tighter it gets...which means you can trim the tags as close to the knot as possible without worrying about it slipping.

 

Braided to lure I use a palomar knot.

 

I've never had a knot slip using these two methods.  Enjoy!