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So I feel like I hear a lot of people asking what to pair with this or that, but most of the time we don't give much advice on things made in the USA. What brands, rods, reels, from different companies would you guys suggest? I feel like it is our duty to help out our own country before others, but do we make the same quality products as companies like Shimano or Abu Garcia? 

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Ardent makes reels, a lot of people only know them for their reel cleaning supplies but they make some reels, pretty pricey though, never used one myself due to that so can't speak on their quality or performance but they are made in the usa as far as I know.

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I didn't know that! I know that St. Croix's line from the Premier and up is all made in the USA. 

The rage and Mojo series are made in mexico but the rest of what you said is true.  I lhaven't found a rell that is quality and made in the USA.  I look at it in a different way that while i may buy products made overseas there are a hwole lot of people that are employed for the overseas made products, from sales people to tech to delivey guys.  I am all for supporting US made products but until i see somethign that is quality i am not spending my hard earned money on something just for the made in usa sticker.

 

Now my fly rods and reels are all made in the USA as there are more options available as it is more of a niche market.

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The rage and Mojo series are made in mexico but the rest of what you said is true. I lhaven't found a rell that is quality and made in the USA. I look at it in a different way that while i may buy products made overseas there are a hwole lot of people that are employed for the overseas made products, from sales people to tech to delivey guys. I am all for supporting US made products but until i see somethign that is quality i am not spending my hard earned money on something just for the made in usa sticker.

Now my fly rods and reels are all made in the USA as there are more options available as it is more of a niche market.

Well said!

By the time I purchase that 200 dollar reel, the US government and American people have profited and made several dollars on it. From import tax to the guy at the reel bar selling me the reel. That money is then turned around and used in the US economy. My question is though, how many products that say "Made In America" are just assembled here and made with parts made overseas?

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I think you pretty much got it Rock. Parts market is like any other commodity market, sure manufacturers eve in other countries do this. Parts are made in numerous places and shipped to an assembly plant in a particular country. A lot of basic parts like screws, gears, bearings, foam or cork grips etc. are done offsite at factories specializing in that part, not specific to one industry. People don't realize this.

Key is the companies QC standards regardless of place assembled, good products come from all over, china, Japan, s Korea, USA.

IMHO when you buy from an American corp that makes a product in a foreign land you still put money in the American employees that are in marketing, management, engineering, CEOs (we all know trickle down economics work) etc. really it is just the assembly line workers that are cut out versus buying Japanese and sending 100% of the $ overseas. So I take that into account as the product I buy cuts the mustard for me. Just my 2 cents

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Lamiglass, castaway, st.croix, and falcon are American made rods. Well actually assembled in the USA. Most of the components are Fuji and from Japan.

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I'd more interested in companies that actually employed US citizens, and contributed to the local economy. "Made in the USA" ...? By who or what? Assembled by robots doesn't mean jobs. That Saint Croix still assembles rods here is pretty cool - they employ US skilled labor. Shimano, Daiwa, Pure Fishing, etc. all have a US presence, not just in the market, but also employ many people as well.

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G Loomis makes their rods in the USA too. 

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As for my opinion, if a product is quality I will buy it.  Agree 100% on what rockchalk posted.

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Wright & McGill (made by Eagle Claw) are made in the USA.

 

Works for Skeet and Brent Chapman!!

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G Loomis makes their rods in the USA too.

owned by a Japanese company so they don't count

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Wright & McGill (made by Eagle Claw) are made in the USA.

 

Works for Skeet and Brent Chapman!!

 

I don't see anything that indicates they are Made in the USA.  Can you provide some reference?

 

owned by a Japanese company so they don't count

 

So, the US citizens employed by them don't count?

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Nothing indicates the rods and reels are made in the US. Hooks yes, but not rods and reels.

 

Founded in Denver, Colorado in 1925, the Wright & McGill Co. is solely owned by Lee McGill.  We continue to manufacture all our world famous fishhooks in Denver, Colorado and are extremely proud to be the only brand of fishhooks "Made In The USA!"  We are proud stewards of an 85+ year American legacy and the most recognizable brand name in all of fishing.

 

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Penn used to be a solid reel company now it's junk. Made in China. I also remember reading Ardent is Chinese parts manufactured in America. Idk how true that is don't quote me. Lol but yea with all the politics and regulation after regulation I highly doubt we'll see a reel manufacturer of quality in the America in our life times. ...M as for rods Crowder is made in Florida they make some great surf rods. Croix obviously. not really sure who else...

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I came across this some time ago on a BPS Q&A page when I was given a BPS Pro Qualifier.  I have not verified any of the information and therefore take it with a grain of salt; but I found it interesting enough to save.

 

 

what company manufactures this reel

asked 2 years, 7 months ago

by

workinslob

on Bass Pro Shops® Pro Qualifier® Baitcast Reels

8 answers

Answers

answer 1

The reels are made by pure fishing.
Same company that makes
Abu Garcia®
All Star Rods®
Berkley®
Fenwick®
Hodgman®
Johnson®
JRC®
Mitchell®
PENN®
Pflueger®
Sebile®
Shakespeare®
Spiderwire®
Stren®

 

 

 

answered 9 months ago

by

SlapShot268

- Illinios

answer 2

Bass Pro reels are made by a Company named OEM Manufacturing that outsources its production to many different companies . In the cases of contracted fishing reels for other companies they are now being made in either China or Korea . OEM manufactures anywhere from 30-75% of the worlds reels in a given year . The similarities to other reel companies are the reason for the incorrect answers to this question . When OEM is in manufacturing mode of particular reels the many different companies using OEM will have their reels run afterwords with similarities to save money by not making OEM to retool all of their machinery to produce them . Bass Pro uses this money saving tactic better than all the other reel companies out there . They then pass some of the savings off to us. That’s why Bass Pro can sell very similar looking reels to others with as good or better insides to others for lower prices . OEM manufactures reels for Shakespear ( who owns Pflueger and gets some royalties for Bass Pro exclusive Pflueger reels ) , Bass Pro , some of Cabelas , Browning ( who is being sold thru Bass Pro for royalties) , Pinnacle , Southbend , and who knows how many others and how many parts they make for other manufactures who do most of their own production . The thing about these similar reels they are all done by the specs of the different reel companies . Those specs are better in some than in others . Bass Pro gets high end bearings and manufacturing tolerances for even less than others do for a lesser model because of their volume is so much higher than others . Again they do pass some these savings on to us . And for my money I can't help myself from grabbing up some that savings from time to time . Hope that helps you out in some way . Good luck and tight lines .

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I don't see anything that indicates they are Made in the USA.  Can you provide some reference?

 

 

So, the US citizens employed by them don't count?

 

 

 

profit goes back to japan.much better to keep it here if possible.loomis is not an american company anymore just like budwieser.i won't drink bud anymore because of this.if people want a loomis rod it's cool but it isn't american.

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I pray I don't stir up a hornets nest with this but the only people we can blame for not having stuff made in America is ourselves for electing and re electing idiot politicians who bankrupt corporations with taxes and regulations. Detroit is a desolate wasteland, and all day long I see foreign cars on the road. I could go on further with examples but it just aggravates me. Just saw a post on Fox about how California is trying to restructure farm conditions for chickens. Which is going to put 1,000 of farmers out of business. So soon our eggs will be coming from China. The politicians will spend billions regulating every aspect of our lives instead of spending that money to create jobs thus losing Made In America. Here in CT we just lost just shy of a thousand jobs from gun parts manufacturers because of the draconian gun laws they passed. Guess what 3 companies out of business and 1 moving to North carolina, more jobs for China!

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profit goes back to japan.much better to keep it here if possible.loomis is not an american company anymore just like budwieser.i won't drink bud anymore because of this.if people want a loomis rod it's cool but it isn't american.

 

The good people of Woodland, WA who make those blanks and hand assemble those rods would disagree with you. Where those jobs are located is what counts.

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I'd buy American if the products met my criteria, mainly being quality and value.  I do own an American made Avet, but really have no idea of where the components come from or even the raw aluminum to be machined.  As big as Alcoa is there are other global aluminium companies that compete on both price and quality.

 

American made regarding fishing equipment is just a tiny part of the overall situation.  Avoiding any trade imbalance or political comments, American companies whether private or public owned have but 1 goal and that's the bottom line.  They will seek every advantage possible by reducing labor costs with the use of robotics and computers, offshore plants and labor, foreign suppliers, US Steel isn't even close to being as it's former self.  In America trickle down means $$ for the shareholders, CEO salaries and labor last of all, CEO salaries have spiked and labor has been flat lining. Like it or not we have become a service and technology economy, not manufacturing.  Even a large portion our beloved smartphones, computers, televisions and other tech items aren't made here anymore, support for them is India or Philipino based too.

 

Quality is an issue for most people, I spent 30 years going into various plants of all sizes, both American as well as foreign corporations doing business here.  There is a noticeable difference on the floor among the different companies.

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