Japanese Shimano Spinning Reels Size 2000?

[Thaddeus]

I am in the market for a 2000 size reel. Would like to stick with Shimano as I have a Sustain 1000 and Stradic ci4 2500. This would pair up with a Dobyns 702sf for dropshots, light shaky heads, dartsheads, and river fishing for smallies up in Minnesota. Is anyone familiar with Japan's (JDM) 2000 Shimano offerings? Are they a true 2000 body like what Daiwa offers or just 1000 size bodies with 2000 spools? I am specifically looking at the 2010 Complex Ci4 2000HGS F3, 2011 Biomaster C2000HGS, and 2012 Ultegra C2000HGS. I would most likely be purchasing through eBay to get a price around $200. What do you guys think? Maybe I should just quit being brand loyal and grab a 2000 size Daiwa Ballistic? Sucks that Shimano doesn't offer a 2000 size in the states.

 

[EvanT123]

If there is a 'c' in the name ie, c2000hgs it's a campact body. 1000 size with a 2000 size spool.

[Thaddeus]

thank you! So the 2010 Complex Ci4 2000HGS F3 is a true 2000 size? Are there any other JDM 2000 reels that you'd recommend that is between $150-250?

[Thaddeus]

Would this reel be a true 2000 size? http://www.cloudninetackle.jp/product/247 Shimano Soare ci4 30 2000HGS

[EvanT123]

I would think if it doesn't have the c in front it would be a 2000 size but I don't know for sure. I was interested in buying a jdm shimano(twinpower)for awhile but settled on the stradic 1. Because if anything happens to it or is faulty shimano usa would service or warranty it. They won't service jdm reels. 2. The twinpower has more bearings then the stradic but 2 are in the handle and the other supports the drag. I could add two to the handle and the one on the drag isn't a big deal to me. Compared to the stradic I couldn't justify the purchase. My personal opinion if I was to buy jdm it would be daiwa ie luvias caldia or something like that. Daiwa usa would service them but there in lies another issue they are magsealed and you can't service them yourself and a service from daiwa would run 60-80 bucks.

[Thaddeus]

Good point. I did a little more research and discovered (I think-Japanese translated web pages are rough) that the 2000HGS is a 2500 size body. Wondering if the Complex Ci4 2000HGS F3 is a true 2000 (not much info on these reels). Leaning towards just getting a Daiwa 2000 now...

[thehooligan]

Is there reason why this has to be a 2000 sized reel ? A 1000 sized shimano would be more then adequate. 

[Thaddeus]

I want more line capacity as I will be using 8lb flourocarbon

[jtharris3]

I love the Shimano Symetre. Been fishing them for 25+ years.

[thehooligan]

I want more line capacity as I will be using 8lb flourocarbon

 

Just go ci4 2500, you get the bigger spool, and the reel will be lighter then most 1000/2000 size reels.

[Thaddeus]

Just go ci4 2500, you get the bigger spool, and the reel will be lighter then most 1000/2000 size reels.

I think I will! But since I use the same rods I want the reels to be different somehow. I love my ci4 2500. There is a JDM reel called the Rarenium ci42500 that is basically the US ci4 but a different color (actually hear from many that it is a better quality reel-smoother,less handle play). I might pull the trigger and buy one this week.

[thehooligan]

Nice, I almost bought one off eBay but ended up getting a great deal on a sustain 1000 fg.

[Thaddeus]

I just purchased a brand Shimano Rarenium 2500 FA for $198 including shipping. Can't wait to get it on the water!!!

[thehooligan]

^ Nice 

[Bluesteel]

Hi Thaddeus,

 

Did you get a Rarenium 2500 or 2500S.  I know the "S" is for shallow spool.  I was interested in getting one too but am afraid in colder conditions that the shallower spool will allow the stiff line to fall off and cause tangles.  I usually fish for steelhead in temps under freezing.  Have you had any issues with the shallow spool? 

Thanks for your imput, and if you could share the website or link to where you made your purchase.

[BobP]

I got a Biomaster 2500 3-4 years ago and was surprised that it was the same size as a 2000 size U.S. Shimano.  Very nice reel and smooth as butter, I've been happy using it for dropshotting with 6-8 lb fluoro and have never felt the need for a larger reel.

[Deleted account]

...But since I use the same rods I want the reels to be different somehow.... 

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[Thaddeus]

Hi Thaddeus,

Did you get a Rarenium 2500 or 2500S. I know the "S" is for shallow spool. I was interested in getting one too but am afraid in colder conditions that the shallower spool will allow the stiff line to fall off and cause tangles. I usually fish for steelhead in temps under freezing. Have you had any issues with the shallow spool?

Thanks for your imput, and if you could share the website or link to where you made your purchase.

[Thaddeus]

Bluesteel-

Hi Thaddeus,

Did you get a Rarenium 2500 or 2500S. I know the "S" is for shallow spool. I was interested in getting one too but am afraid in colder conditions that the shallower spool will allow the stiff line to fall off and cause tangles. I usually fish for steelhead in temps under freezing. Have you had any issues with the shallow spool?

Thanks for your imput, and if you could share the website or link to where you made your purchase.

Bluesteel-

Yes I purchased the Rarenium 2500 FA (not shallow spool) and I LOVE IT! It's amazing. I pair it with a Dobyns Champion 702sf w/ 8lb flourocarbon and it's one of my favorite combos. I use it dropshotting for bass and lindy rigging for walleye, and jig fishing on the river. I bought mine from Petrimart which is a German online tackle shop. I found a coupon online and got mine for $194 which included shipping. Got it in 4 days. http://www.petrimart.com/rarenium-ci4-2500-fa?filter_name=Rarenium

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Looks like you made a nice purchase. Just wanted to add that there is no such thing as a "true xxxx size" reel. The reel companies stay somewhat in tune for shopper comparison but there is no standard , it's all subjective on the part of the manufacturer.

[21farms]

i've had numerous USDM shimano and daiwa spinning reels. i've found that 2500-size shimanos are closer in body size to 2000-size daiwas and that 2500-size daiwa bodies are quite a bit larger.

[21farms]

i recently picked up a 2500-size JDM shimano complex BB...as you can see compared to my fingers, it is quite compact:

[Raul]

My man, watch out when you purchase japanese Shimano spinning reels, Shimano in Japan offers much more models within the same reel than it offers for the domestic market. Look closely  ! a S after the size number indicates the reel has a SHALLOW SPOOL, then we have PG means POWER GEAR in Christian it means lower gear ratio, or HG meaning HIGH GEAR in Christian higher gear ratio tan the regular model. To make it more confusing, lets´s suppose you encounter something like this:

 

Biomaster ( equivalent to the Stradic ) 2500PGS ----> spool size identical to the 2500 but with shallow capacity, body 2500 size but with gear lower gear ratio.

 

There are several combinations of spool capacity and gear ratio available, if you don´t ask the seller you may end up purchasing a reel you may not want.

[Bluesteel]

Thad,

Did you have any trouble with shipping or having to pay duty or customs taxes when purchasing from Petrimart?

Thanks